Tour de France Tour de France 2025 Stage 10: Ennezat – Le Mont-Dore (165.3k)

[Pantani Attacks]

Adam Blythe saying he doesn't believe Pog wanted to lose yellow. He is such a Jumbo Visma shill. Clueless.

 

[Penninepeddler]

This is exactly what I thought watching it. It's like he thinks he had the lead over Pog.

The profile of the final climb suits Pog more are we know Visma are kind of a race by numbers team.

Guess they didnt want to risk losing 5-10 seconds here (which was a 90% outcome if Vingegaard went super deep as Pog would get on his wheel and probably go past him)... and think maybe can claw time back in the high mountains.

 

[Mayomaniac]

What do you expect he'd get out of an attack on that final hill?

Visma's tactic is clearly to wear out Pog and his team while minimizing how much time he gains over Vingegaard on finishes like this. A Vingegaard attack could easily be countered by a Pog one that would win him a couple of seconds.

Yeah, I think he thought that countering that Pogacar attack would leave him vulnearable, even if he looked pretty good at that moment.

 

[Netserk]

Vingo didn't attack even once. He was riding like a race leader. What the ****?

It will be the same in the Pyrenees.

 

[dr.eve]

Aside from the stage win, what was Visma's plan today?

Seriously why do so many here don't understand it?

1. Visma wants to put fatigue into Pogacar and UAE, they do this by making the stage hard. They did exactly that.

2. If Vingegaard attacked at the end he would have gained what exactly on top of what the team already managed to do? Maybe a few seconds at most?

3. Vingegaard needs to capitalize on the building fatigue on stages where you can gain much more time in potential, this is not that stage.

All in all Visma did a great job, stage win, great team performance. They clearly showed to be stronger as a team than UAE and they are still in contention with Vingegaard.

Not sure really why so many here fail to see this. If this is enough to beat Pogacar in the end? I do not think so, I do think it is the best strategy though.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Remco can't do anything other than following until his limits. The aliens are 373748494 steps ahead, they are almost toying with everyone else.

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

People are going to clown Visma but even as an avid Niermann and Plugge hater I gotta admit this was probably the best realistic outcome for them. Got the stage win and showed they can isolate Pogacar + limited the risk of potentially losing more time at the end.
Problem will be that a) Pogacar is simply too strong and b) Jorgenson is no credible threat, we saw today how little Pogacar had to dig to close his attacks down.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Adam Blythe saying he doesn't believe Pog wanted to lose yellow. He is such a Jumbo Visma shill. Clueless.

He's pretty much a shill for any big name or British mate and just not good at his job.

 

[Poursuivant]

What’s with all the Yates wheelsucking shouts?

If Yates didn’t win today, it was going to be one of the other non-Healy riders in the break who didn’t contribute. Would that have been better?

I am old enough to remember Yates getting slagged off on here in 2018 for attacking every stage when he was doing “too much, “ now he’s not doing enough 🤪

 

[Netserk]

Aside from the stage win, what was Visma's plan today?

Poke the P bear.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Remco can't do anything other than following until his limits. The aliens are 373748494 steps ahead, they are almost toying with everyone else.

Remco's hope for reducing the gap is that Pogi & Vingo are unable to drop each other and they stop like today. This can happen during mountain stages.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

 

[memyselfandI]

Vingo tad strange tactical choises.. Imho should have kept pace high enough to hold Pogi in yellow for interviews and ceremonials and doping testing etc today and during rest day. But no. Maybe he was thinking more about Evenepoel then.

 

[Cycling111]

I read positive comments about Vingegaard on Twitter. He's coming out stronger.

What I've seen is Pogacar easily come out after Jorgenson, and Vingegaard wheel-sucker all day and doing nothing.

I see things differently.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Here he is, pantomime villain Simon Yates, wearing the heel-nose strip. Expect him to come out in a suit and sunglasses on the rest day and start having a go at the fans.

 

[E_F_]

Who cares anyway.

 

[Mayomaniac]

People are going to clown Visma but even as an avid Niermann and Plugge hater I gotta admit this was probably the best realistic outcome for them. Got the stage win and showed they can isolate Pogacar + limited the risk of potentially losing more time at the end.
Problem will be that a) Pogacar is simply too strong and b) Jorgenson is no credible threat, we saw today how little Pogacar had to dig to close his attacks down.

I mean, nobody really expects Vingegaard to gain time on Pogacar on a 3km at 8% climb, not even his biggest fans.
That said, Pogacar still hasn't switched to the light bike/gotten rid of the extra training weight that comes with the dog of a bike that is the Colnago aerobike...

 

[Peyroteo94]

Remco's hope for reducing the gap is that Pogi & Vingo are unable to drop each other and they stop like today. This can happen during mountain stages.

Like I told you (I think it was you who said the opposite), even rivals decrease gaps on the road.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Jordan Jegat and a washed-up Sergio Higuita the 11th and 12th riders from the peloton. Just in case you were wondering about what the field depth is like these days.

 

[dazaau]

Unusual for Pogacar not to try again in the final kilometre, did he figure he could barely lose yellow or did he put too much into the first attack to try again?

I think he was happy to not have yellow

 

[pelotonIQ]

Jonas scared to put in a dig in a short and risk free climb after all that choreograpgy from Visma. Truly a rider only supported by his countrymen. I even seen danes root for Pogacar.

 

[Red Rick]

Adam Blythe saying he doesn't believe Pog wanted to lose yellow. He is such a Jumbo Visma shill. Clueless.

I don't think he's a shill. I think he's just a moron.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Like I told you (I think it was you who said the opposite), even rivals decrease gaps on the road.

I realized a possible deadlock (we saw it in 2023) but if one is able to drop another (but by a small margin) then their pace is big and nobody holds back.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Visma got saved by Yates's win.

 

[Schultz0620]

People are going to clown Visma but even as an avid Niermann and Plugge hater I gotta admit this was probably the best realistic outcome for them. Got the stage win and showed they can isolate Pogacar + limited the risk of potentially losing more time at the end.
Problem will be that a) Pogacar is simply too strong and b) Jorgenson is no credible threat, we saw today how little Pogacar had to dig to close his attacks down.

It's clearly the best strategy they have to play, and they got a stage out of it. Pog just seemed to barely be breaking a sweat.