Tour de France Tour de France 2025 Stage 12: Auch - Hautacam (180.6k)

[nightowl]

Visma’s plan blows up in their face…now it’ll be interesting to see what happens on Hautacam

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Soulor from this side is a strong category 1 climb (not far from typical HC/1 threshold). The GC group slowed down somewhat - on this hard climb they didn't make up even a minute over the best guys from the breakaway.

 

[houtdffan]

Such a shame about Remco, the races are better when he's crushing it. What the actual F...

Looked like a short term crisis. He's been climbing fine the past 5 km

Don't know WTF happened though

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Visma will have to choose on Hautacam, save Jorgenson or attack Pogacar, they can't do both when he is on a bad day.

It will be Pogacar and Vingegaard mano-a-mano.

I think if Pogi feels well Narvaez will nuke the start of the climb and then it's Vinge vs. Pog and all thoughts of saving Jogenson will be out of the window.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

I’m afraid Blythe has a permanent concussion 😁

Guy definitely drinks on the job

 

[pelotonIQ]

Not what happened

It's exactly what happened. S. Yates and Jorgenson got dropped and then Visma slowed it down to let them catch back up. End of story.

 

[dobrien]

Hear me out. This is just the biggest Belgian yoyo you’ll ever see.

Nothing would make me happier.

 

[Berniece]

Looked like a short term crisis. He's been climbing fine the past 5 km

Don't know WTF happened though

He's still losing time towards Pogacar/Vingegaard

 

[E_F_]

Visma are sure to get ***ed on Hautacam now.

 

[Faserr]

Lipo will get white I think

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Looked like a short term crisis. He's been climbing fine the past 5 km

Don't know WTF happened though

At some point the peleton upped the pace noticeably but they slowed down since then. Remco will leak way more time on the last climb when Vingo or Pogi go all out.

 

[Poursuivant]

Jorgensen not good here. He won’t last long on Hautacam

Podium place is wide open this year

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Guy definitely drinks on the job

My fear is that this is what he is like sober, and so he might be like Bender from Futurama, get alcohol in him and he starts to make sense.

 

[Jack_89]

Narvaez is doing a hell of a ride

 

[Peyroteo94]

Looked like a short term crisis. He's been climbing fine the past 5 km

Don't know WTF happened though

He lost time when Visma went crazy. After Matteo's crack, they slowed down.

 

[Sciatic]

Visma’s plan blows up in their face…now it’ll be interesting to see what happens on Hautacam

I don't understand this at all. They know they weren't going to distance Pog on this climb, this is a long term strategy to put pressure on over this 3-day mountain block. Folks here are talking about Jorgenson staying close--that may not matter to them at all, as I wouldn't expect him to stay with Yates and Kuss when they're making it hard.

 

[Boehmand]

I think if Pogi feels well Narvaez will nuke the start of the climb and then it's Vinge vs. Pog and all thoughts of saving Jogenson will be out of the window.

Yeah, but Visma will have to test if he actually feels good either way IMO.

But they will obviously wait for the last 6K of Hautacam, this and the next climbs are just preparation.

This is only the first of 3 GC days in a row, nobody will go long range today.

 

[red_flanders]

Looked like a short term crisis. He's been climbing fine the past 5 km

Don't know WTF happened though

Yeah super weird, seems to be closing the gap slightly now.

 

[iBanesto]

Woods dancing on wheels.

 

[houtdffan]

He's still losing time towards Pogacar/Vingegaard

wonder if he can actually do a good descent and make up some time

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Healy really overdid it it seems to try to stay with the pack.

 

[Berniece]

He's still losing time towards Pogacar/Vingegaard

And now he's "closing" the gap. Only 50s between them anymore

 

[Wvv]

Little revival for Remco. C'mon.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

Exactly what happened. S. Yates and Jorgenson got dropped and then Visma slowed it down to let them catch back up. End of story.

Yates stayed with Mateo to pace him. Look where he is now. You're just wrong. It's okay to be wrong.

 

[ontheroad]

If Pogacar is feeling anyway good today he has to attack on the final climb. Jorgensen could lose minutes if UAE start drilling early on Hautacam and shell him out the back. Unless he was sandbagging earlier which looks unlikely.