Tour de France Tour de France 2025, Stage 5: Caen – Caen (33.0k, ITT)

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

There is no way Remco takes a minute on Pogacar today.
Also feel that the people thinking Vingegaard to take time here on Pogacar are very hope driven. Whenever Pogacar had a bad result in something that mattered (Dauphine ITT), he knocked something completely out the park soon later. Wouldn't surprise me if he takes significant time here on Vingegaard and we can all fall into depression.

I think a repeat from last year's first ITT seems quite realistic.
Gonna be brutally honest, a flat for Pogacar would benefit this Tour greatly lol.

 

[Jan the Man]

There is no way Remco takes a minute on Pogacar today.
Also feel that the people thinking Vingegaard to take time here on Pogacar are very hope driven. Whenever Pogacar had a bad result in something that mattered (Dauphine ITT), he knocked something completely out the park soon later. Wouldn't surprise me if he takes significant time here on Vingegaard and we can all fall into depression.

I think a repeat from last year's first ITT seems quite realistic.
Gonna be brutally honest, a flat for Pogacar would benefit this Tour greatly lol.

I doubt very much he will perform as baddly (relatively) as he did in the Dauphine but given the parcours doubt either of the big two will put major time between each other. However I still think the most likely event is Jonas putting 0-15s on Pog anything over 30s would be a big surprise and nothing suggests that if Pog does overturn his poor performance in the Dauphine he would take more than a few seconds from Jonas, the parcours does not really gravitate to giving big gaps

 

[Dazed and Confused]

There is no way Remco takes a minute on Pogacar today.
Also feel that the people thinking Vingegaard to take time here on Pogacar are very hope driven. Whenever Pogacar had a bad result in something that mattered (Dauphine ITT), he knocked something completely out the park soon later. Wouldn't surprise me if he takes significant time here on Vingegaard and we can all fall into depression.

I think a repeat from last year's first ITT seems quite realistic.
Gonna be brutally honest, a flat for Pogacar would benefit this Tour greatly lol.

Many neutral fans are caught between a rock and a hard place. Backing Vinge to win the TT and wishing for a Poggi flat....

 

[Cycling111]

Many neutral fans are caught between a rock and a hard place. Backing Vinge to win the TT and wishing for a Poggi flat....

Those aren´t neutral fans

 

[scribers]

Vingo has always seems to have a lot of neutral fans with such wishes

 

[Netserk]

I doubt very much he will perform as baddly (relatively) as he did in the Dauphine but given the parcours doubt either of the big two will put major time between each other. However I still think the most likely event is Jonas putting 0-15s on Pog anything over 30s would be a big surprise and nothing suggests that if Pog does overturn his poor performance in the Dauphine he would take more than a few seconds from Jonas, the parcours does not really gravitate to giving big gaps

On a good day, Pogi can take 30" on Vingegaard today. But maybe 10-15 is the most likely gap.

 

[Cycling111]

Vingo has always seems to have a lot of neutral fans with such wishes

Neutral fans always want Visma to win. Even those who thought it was wonderful that they would take over the entire podium in a GT in 2023 after winning the other two.

Curious neutrality LOL.

 

[Rob5091]

Remco needs a win by a hefty margin otherwise it's a disappointment for him and we're left waiting for the mountains to find out who wins the GC (not that we aren't already)

 

[KenFiamingo]

Hope I'm wrong but my gut feeling is telling Remco won't win due to a mechanical.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Neutral fans always want Visma to win. Even those who thought it was wonderful that they would take over the entire podium in a GT in 2023 after winning the other two.

Curious neutrality LOL.

If you think my statement would somehow imply being a visma fan, you may have to dig a bit deeping or perhaps I didn't make myself clear.

 

[scribers]

Don't think WVA is going to go all out. If he can't win, why would he. Just save energy for next stages

That and some concrete work for trine after the tour

 

[Berniece]

If you think my statement would somehow imply being a visma fan, you may have to dig a bit deeping or perhaps I didn't make myself clear.

You were very clear. Pogacar is too strong, and better than everyone else, so if something "bad" happens to him, the playing field would be more even, which results in a more entertaining TDF.

 

[Miha81]

Rather excited about this ITT because I have no idea what to expect (mainly) from two big GC favourites.

I expect Remco to win quite comfortably but other than that have no idea.

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Vingo has always seems to have a lot of neutral fans with such wishes

Neutral fans always want Visma to win. Even those who thought it was wonderful that they would take over the entire podium in a GT in 2023 after winning the other two.

Curious neutrality LOL.

I'm not a Vingegaard or Visma fan but surely it's not hard to understand why a fan of the sport and someone that enjoys good competition right now would hope that the guy that has been winning everything left and right for two years gets impeded in any sort of harmless, non-injury related, way? And yes, hoping that Pogacar doesn't win everything correlates strongly with annoyingly having to support two guys in the Peleton right now, everything else would just be delusional.

Trust me, the fact that I even vaguely have to entertain the idea of cheering for someone as plain and boring as MVDP in the classics or as smug and annoying as Plugge and Niermann in GTs is already bad enough. But I'm also realistic enough that these sort of guys are right now the only sort of palpable alternative. I've not reached the Netflix level of delusion yet, where I am attempting to hype up Enrico Mas or Kevin Vaquelin trying to convince myself that they're surely about to drop Pogacar soon.
I've cheered for Carapaz in the Giro with 5 times the enthusiasm I'm cheering for Vingegaard here and I'm pretty sure a lot of people that seem "pro Visma" in your eyes have felt the same.

 

[BigCoward]

Those aren´t neutral fans

You can be a neutral and still wish for something that will make the race better (though nobody should be wishing for a flat).

 

[Tim Cahill]

Ah man Kevin and Enrico have these guys exactly where they want them, podium is a lock!!!

 

[peterfin]

Pogacar will likely start in greed and deffo in polka dot, so that's not ideal as well.

If Remco sets a really sharp time he definitely risks blowing up his engine by the end of the TT. He should follow his schedule and focus on Vingegaard, who will follow anything Visma says.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Vingegaard has been way more at the front and out in the wind and pushed his limits in terrain that suits Pog better early on. I think that comes with a prize for a lightweight like him even though he has been really good so far.

Remco
Pog + 40
Jonas + 1.00

 

[Hugo Koblet]

On average, I think the time difference between Pogacar and Vingegaard will be 0 seconds.

 

[Pantani_lives]

My prediction for the stage:

1. Evenepoel
2. Vingegaard 0:49
3. Pogacar 0:56

That would result into the following GC:

1. Pogacar
2. Vingegaard 0:01
3. Evenepoel 0:02

 

[Stablo]

I'm not a Vingegaard or Visma fan but surely it's not hard to understand why a fan of the sport and someone that enjoys good competition right now would hope that the guy that has been winning everything left and right for two years gets impeded in any sort of harmless, non-injury related, way? And yes, hoping that Pogacar doesn't win everything correlates strongly with annoyingly having to support two guys in the Peleton right now, everything else would just be delusional.

Trust me, the fact that I even vaguely have to entertain the idea of cheering for someone as plain and boring as MVDP in the classics or as smug and annoying as Plugge and Niermann in GTs is already bad enough. But I'm also realistic enough that these sort of guys are right now the only sort of palpable alternative. I've not reached the Netflix level of delusion yet, where I am attempting to hype up Enrico Mas or Kevin Vaquelin trying to convince myself that they're surely about to drop Pogacar soon.
I've cheered for Carapaz in the Giro with 5 times the enthusiasm I'm cheering for Vingegaard here and I'm pretty sure a lot of people that seem "pro Visma" in your eyes have felt the same.

Feel 100% the same way. Would also ad, that at least I dislike Gianetti&UAE(🤢) more than I dislike the Visma crew.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Vingo has always seems to have a lot of neutral fans with such wishes

It's really wishful thinkings. But I get, no one wants a dominance like last year.

 

[P4rthen0n]

Since there is only a 2min gap today, who should we expect to overtake the previous rider?

Jorgensen overtakes Vauquelin?
Vauquelin overtakes Enric Mas?
Evenepoel overtakes Skjelmose?

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Since there is only a 2min gap today, who should we expect to overtake the previous rider?

Jorgensen overtakes Vauquelin?
Vauquelin overtakes Enric Mas?
Evenepoel overtakes Skjelmose?

None are remotely likely.

 

[Peyroteo94]

This is a fast TT. Bad TT riders will not lose more than 2'30"-2'45" to Remco.