Tour de France Tour de France 2025, Stage 5: Caen – Caen (33.0k, ITT)

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There is no way Remco takes a minute on Pogacar today.
Also feel that the people thinking Vingegaard to take time here on Pogacar are very hope driven. Whenever Pogacar had a bad result in something that mattered (Dauphine ITT), he knocked something completely out the park soon later. Wouldn't surprise me if he takes significant time here on Vingegaard and we can all fall into depression.

I think a repeat from last year's first ITT seems quite realistic.
Gonna be brutally honest, a flat for Pogacar would benefit this Tour greatly lol.
 
There is no way Remco takes a minute on Pogacar today.
Also feel that the people thinking Vingegaard to take time here on Pogacar are very hope driven. Whenever Pogacar had a bad result in something that mattered (Dauphine ITT), he knocked something completely out the park soon later. Wouldn't surprise me if he takes significant time here on Vingegaard and we can all fall into depression.

I think a repeat from last year's first ITT seems quite realistic.
Gonna be brutally honest, a flat for Pogacar would benefit this Tour greatly lol.

I doubt very much he will perform as baddly (relatively) as he did in the Dauphine but given the parcours doubt either of the big two will put major time between each other. However I still think the most likely event is Jonas putting 0-15s on Pog anything over 30s would be a big surprise and nothing suggests that if Pog does overturn his poor performance in the Dauphine he would take more than a few seconds from Jonas, the parcours does not really gravitate to giving big gaps
 
There is no way Remco takes a minute on Pogacar today.
Also feel that the people thinking Vingegaard to take time here on Pogacar are very hope driven. Whenever Pogacar had a bad result in something that mattered (Dauphine ITT), he knocked something completely out the park soon later. Wouldn't surprise me if he takes significant time here on Vingegaard and we can all fall into depression.

I think a repeat from last year's first ITT seems quite realistic.
Gonna be brutally honest, a flat for Pogacar would benefit this Tour greatly lol.
Many neutral fans are caught between a rock and a hard place. Backing Vinge to win the TT and wishing for a Poggi flat....
 
I doubt very much he will perform as baddly (relatively) as he did in the Dauphine but given the parcours doubt either of the big two will put major time between each other. However I still think the most likely event is Jonas putting 0-15s on Pog anything over 30s would be a big surprise and nothing suggests that if Pog does overturn his poor performance in the Dauphine he would take more than a few seconds from Jonas, the parcours does not really gravitate to giving big gaps
On a good day, Pogi can take 30" on Vingegaard today. But maybe 10-15 is the most likely gap.
 
Vingo has always seems to have a lot of neutral fans with such wishes
Neutral fans always want Visma to win. Even those who thought it was wonderful that they would take over the entire podium in a GT in 2023 after winning the other two.

Curious neutrality LOL.
I'm not a Vingegaard or Visma fan but surely it's not hard to understand why a fan of the sport and someone that enjoys good competition right now would hope that the guy that has been winning everything left and right for two years gets impeded in any sort of harmless, non-injury related, way? And yes, hoping that Pogacar doesn't win everything correlates strongly with annoyingly having to support two guys in the Peleton right now, everything else would just be delusional.

Trust me, the fact that I even vaguely have to entertain the idea of cheering for someone as plain and boring as MVDP in the classics or as smug and annoying as Plugge and Niermann in GTs is already bad enough. But I'm also realistic enough that these sort of guys are right now the only sort of palpable alternative. I've not reached the Netflix level of delusion yet, where I am attempting to hype up Enrico Mas or Kevin Vaquelin trying to convince myself that they're surely about to drop Pogacar soon.
I've cheered for Carapaz in the Giro with 5 times the enthusiasm I'm cheering for Vingegaard here and I'm pretty sure a lot of people that seem "pro Visma" in your eyes have felt the same.
 
Vingegaard has been way more at the front and out in the wind and pushed his limits in terrain that suits Pog better early on. I think that comes with a prize for a lightweight like him even though he has been really good so far.

Remco
Pog + 40
Jonas + 1.00
 
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I'm not a Vingegaard or Visma fan but surely it's not hard to understand why a fan of the sport and someone that enjoys good competition right now would hope that the guy that has been winning everything left and right for two years gets impeded in any sort of harmless, non-injury related, way? And yes, hoping that Pogacar doesn't win everything correlates strongly with annoyingly having to support two guys in the Peleton right now, everything else would just be delusional.

Trust me, the fact that I even vaguely have to entertain the idea of cheering for someone as plain and boring as MVDP in the classics or as smug and annoying as Plugge and Niermann in GTs is already bad enough. But I'm also realistic enough that these sort of guys are right now the only sort of palpable alternative. I've not reached the Netflix level of delusion yet, where I am attempting to hype up Enrico Mas or Kevin Vaquelin trying to convince myself that they're surely about to drop Pogacar soon.
I've cheered for Carapaz in the Giro with 5 times the enthusiasm I'm cheering for Vingegaard here and I'm pretty sure a lot of people that seem "pro Visma" in your eyes have felt the same.
Feel 100% the same way. Would also ad, that at least I dislike Gianetti&UAE(🤢) more than I dislike the Visma crew.
 
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