No it wouldn't.
that absolutely would create a balanced route.
I dont think you know just how hard those stages are
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No it wouldn't.
No, I clearly know nothing about the sport's history.that absolutely would create a balanced route.
I dont think you know just how hard those stages are
90s were awful in terms of entertainment.nope
the proper TTs for a GT would be
an 8km flat prologue
an 85km flat TTT
a 70 km flat ITT
an MTT
a 40km flat to slightly rolling ITT
Balance it with 2 very hard mountain stages on the level of Morzine 1983 or Sestrieres 1992
So were 00's, so were 10"s, so would be 20's if it wasn't for Vingegaard (or Pogacar for that matter).90s were awful in terms of entertainment.
90s were awful in terms of entertainment.
If Vingegaard and Pogacar are better TT'ers than Evenepoel, then why don't they beat him in the World's TT?Yes, still lost over a minute to Pogacar over both TT's.
The best TT'ers are still winning 95% of GT's. They also happen to be the best climbers.
Best flat TT'erRemco is the third best climber and the best TT'er isn't he..?
Remco is the third best climber and the best TT'er isn't he..?
Sounds absolutely dreadful. You need 6 that kind of mountain stages to balance that ridiculous amount of TT.the proper TTs for a GT would be
an 8km flat prologue
an 85km flat TTT
a 70 km flat ITT
an MTT
a 40km flat to slightly rolling ITT
Balance it with 2 very hard mountain stages on the level of Morzine 1983 or Sestrieres 1992
Sounds absolutely dreadful. You need 6 that kind of mountain stages to balance that ridiculous amount of TT.
The thing about TTT is that today the difference in team strength is bigger than in many years. You shoudn't lose 5 minutes just because you don't have a very strong team.
A suitable amount of TT would something like a 50 km of flat ITT, 30 km of rolling ITT and no more. That should be balanced with around 3-4 tough mountain stages in high mountains and 1-2 big medium mountain stages. The high mountain stages should be at least 170-180 kms or more and 4000+ meters of categorized climb. And at least a 1 or 2 stages should be designed for more long range attacks and not with the biggest climb as MTF. Even more important for the Giro since Italy have much more opportunitie for this the Tour.
No, not 200+ km of TT, including an insanely long TTT.you dont think two 250km mountain stages with nearly 7,000m of climbing would balance the TTs?
More than one (but it would be unwise to merge them such that the poll in your thread will be removed):If people want to discuss TTTs in a stage race in principle rather than in a thread about the 2026 TdF, we have a thread for that.
It's been 12 years since we last had the brilliant Port de Pailhères/ Ax 3 Domaines combo. Would love to see that as a first week mtf.Btw, regarding rumours. It would be nice with a big Ariege mountain stage. That is not ending in Plateau de Beille.
🙂Btw, regarding rumours. It would be nice with a big Ariege mountain stage. That is not ending in Plateau de Beille.
Has Port de Pailhères ever been used as an MTF? Could it be? I think it’s one of the hardest climbs used in the Tour. Ax 3 Domaines is only decisive because Pailhères softens them up.It's been 12 years since we last had the brilliant Port de Pailhères/ Ax 3 Domaines combo. Would love to see that as a first week mtf.
No, I don't think so.Has Port de Pailhères ever been used as an MTF? Could it be?
Yeah. At that's what makes the combo so good. As a combo, not two separate climbs where it would be equally good to do only Pailheres.Ax 3 Domaines is only decisive because Pailhères softens them up.
This is why it is a perfect combo. The penultime climb is way harder, perfect for long range attacks.Has Port de Pailhères ever been used as an MTF? Could it be? I think it’s one of the hardest climbs used in the Tour. Ax 3 Domaines is only decisive because Pailhères softens them up.
It's ashame Ax 3 Domaines isn't a easier like Aprica/Sestriere, then it'd be the perfect combination.This is why it is a perfect combo. The penultime climb is way harder, perfect for long range attacks.
Sestriere or Aprica without Finestre or Mortirolo is a terrible idea.