Those would take less than 6h nowadays.I miss a good old 7 hours marathon. Something like Gardeccia 2011 or Aprica 2008.
Those would take less than 6h nowadays.I miss a good old 7 hours marathon. Something like Gardeccia 2011 or Aprica 2008.
That's a much better use of distance anyway, to create pressure on teams and distance to make a big gap if a weird group gets away.Or even a stage like the 249k one to Le Creusot in 2021.
They wouldn't go 38 kph average man like what the hell or is my sarcasm defector defectoringThose would take less than 6h nowadays.
Swap Aprica 2008 with Aprica 1996.I miss a good old 7 hours marathon. Something like Gardeccia 2011 or Aprica 2008.
It was disappointing because Ricco wasn't able to drop the great one.Swap Aprica 2008 with Aprica 1996.
Aprica 2008 was a very disappointing queen stage as they decided to finish in Tirano.
Finishing in Tirano should never the the problem. Just an extra descent + 5.5 km of flat after. It didn't stop old mate Sella to solo another one with all of his 23 kilograms. In theory, I think it's near perfect queen stage design.Swap Aprica 2008 with Aprica 1996.
Aprica 2008 was a very disappointing queen stage as they decided to finish in Tirano.
Would it be a good idea to place a couple of dense mountain stages in the first week?In my opinion a good Grand Tour should have a mix of short, medium and long mountain stages, as well as a good mix of hilly/medium mountain stages, high mountain stages for long attacks and mountain stages which focus primarily on the final climb.
It makes or breaks the race though, how you mix them (e.g. La Plagne doesn't work so well on a short stage) and how you place them. (e.g. Giro stage to Champoluc was placed badly)
You can try it for sure but, because these stages are the ones heavily marked by the GC favourites, it's likely the Tour gets decided on that one day, and its just a fight for minor places after that.Would it be a good idea to place a couple of dense mountain stages in the first week?
I'm talking about a Bonette/Isola or Galibier/Granon stage in week 1?
It could sort the GC order early and force the riders to attack on lesser stages in week 2/3??
Or what is the ideal 'pacing' for a Tour?
Yes, I'd like to see Port de Pailhères/ Ax 3 Domaines return, but there were huge gaps there in 2013, and that was week one.A summit finish at the likes of La Mongie or even Ax-3 Domaines would be a nice intro in week one. Enough to establish the GC but not enough to blow gaps wide apart.
A summit finish at the likes of La Mongie or even Ax-3 Domaines would be a nice intro in week one. Enough to establish the GC but not enough to blow gaps wide apart.
I think Col de Portet is exactly what you guys are looking for. Enough with this easing riders into the race.
At this moment I would say: no mountains in the last 100km of any stage.Would it be a good idea to place a couple of dense mountain stages in the first week?
I'm talking about a Bonette/Isola or Galibier/Granon stage in week 1?
It could sort the GC order early and force the riders to attack on lesser stages in week 2/3??
Or what is the ideal 'pacing' for a Tour?
LPBF is back on the menu
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What "guarantees" do they expect, exactly? They couldn't/ didn't secure the Vuelta, they won't be able to secure the Tour.![]()
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Grand depart in some question now
As I said in the Vuelta, maybe move this to Nice and either do a heavy Massif Central block or start in the southern Alps like 2020 and do a double Apls as if they cannot start in Spain, the Pyrenees may be impossible as well
Create a new 3 week race in Switzerland/Austria![]()
Vuelta a España protests 'call into question Spain's ability to host major international sporting events', says UCI
Barcelona set to welcome Tour de France Grand Départ in 2026www.cyclingweekly.com
Sounds like not only will this be moved, but a suspension of Spain itself may be coming.
Which could mean no vuelta next year as well
Nah, Tour de Swiss and Romandie are great. Better to go to USA or South America instead.Create a new 3 week race in Switzerland/Austria
A lot of BS from the UCI.![]()
Vuelta a España protests 'call into question Spain's ability to host major international sporting events', says UCI
Barcelona set to welcome Tour de France Grand Départ in 2026www.cyclingweekly.com
Sounds like not only will this be moved, but a suspension of Spain itself may be coming.
Which could mean no vuelta next year as well