Tour de France Femmes 2025 (July 26th- August 3rd)

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PFP knows how to prepare and achieve an objective as well as anyone. In every interview since the Olympics, she laid out her plan to win this bike race. The hardest part, no matter how good the plan is, is the execution, and that's what it was today: an execution. What a ride! What a champion! Bravo Pauline!

Personally I think it was more awesome how she rode away in Roubaix, as tiny lightweight she is, of course she's top top mtb'er. Still gives me big chills the way she cut corners occasionally casually thru mud, hold my beer and watch this. And that low cad big gear effortless flying. :cool:
 
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Personally I think it was more awesome how she rode away in Roubaix, as tiny lightweight she is, of course she's top top mtb'er. Still gives me big chills the way she cut corners occasionally casually thru mud, hold my beer and watch this. And that low cad big gear effortless flying. :cool:
The '14 RRWC was an epic sprint, winning atop Mur de Huy was magic, Pauline has achieved so much across disciplines: What PFP did today felt a bit like at the Olympics: total control, domination...an amazing rider, one of the best of all time. Fingers crossed and tomorrow is uneventful for the win. For the placings, the gaps aren't big but I don't know what to make of this uninspiring final.
 
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What PFP did today felt a bit like at the Olympics: total control, domination...an amazing rider, one of the best of all time.
XCO Worlds in 2020 in Leogang, 2022 in Les Gets, and 2023 in Glentress were similar; just rode away from everybody on the climbs........She has a race target, and peaks for it like no one else.
 
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PFP had the most balanced, effortless climbing position I've seen. It was noticable after about 10km left to go she had zenned into a posture that had so little stress on the bars her index fingers were relaxed. That's every rider's hopeful dream: to be able to climb that within yourself to waste nothing and still fly.
Really Impressive. Shame her fellow racers didn't see it; but they should watch it on replay.
 
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The '14 RRWC was an epic sprint, winning atop Mur de Huy was magic, Pauline has achieved so much across disciplines: What PFP did today felt a bit like at the Olympics: total control, domination...an amazing rider, one of the best of all time. Fingers crossed and tomorrow is uneventful for the win. For the placings, the gaps aren't big but I don't know what to make of this uninspiring final.
She's really good at peaking for a specific event. Two years ago she made a return to cyclocross and to be quite honest, it was a disaster. Purely physically, she just was nowhere near the best riders. Early this season on the Jebel Hafeet climb in UAE she finished not far ahead of Lorena Wiebes and you wondered how she could ever win the Tour in half a year's time... yet here we are.
 
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XCO Worlds in 2020 in Leogang, 2022 in Les Gets, and 2023 in Glentress were similar; just rode away from everybody on the climbs........She has a race target, and peaks for it like no one else.
This ^^^

For days, she said that she wanted to hide and save energy, for this stage, this climb, and made no secret about it. Pauline won gold in Paris in 1h26. She declared that the required 1h20-1h30 effort on Madeleine was perfect for her. PFP said it all along, today was the day. Boum, badaboum!

Now she needs to close the bag: the race is not over.
 
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Is that related to her injury from Worlds a few years back? Can still see the scar clearly. If it is, I would tend to agree.

She did a real turn on the front earlier in the stage after many had already been dropped so I was surprised to see she barely made the time-cut. Must be real bad.
If i recall correctly, its not that leg, but another injury. She is like this after every race, she is a hell of a trooper.

Edit: It is that leg.
 
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Isn't there something about that actually being the reason she wears those short shorts? Having anything tight around that part of her leg simply hurting too much.
 
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Just finished watching, I guess development in women's road racing is just as worst as the mens. Can't develop winners from youth levels so steal from fish twirling or ski dancing. Here a mountain biker waltzes in and wins Paris-Roubaix and the Tour just like that. It's as if some futsal team participated in the Champions League and won every match by 4 goals.

Also gotta think Cedrine Kerbaol is the perfect Vaughters rider. Sole purpose is to annoy others. Every race she's in a small group of favorites, a minute behind the head of the race and refuses to do work. Then, after the win is long gone up the road, she attacks for no reason, is caught and promptly dropped. Every time!
 
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Here a mountain biker waltzes in and wins Paris-Roubaix and the Tour just like that. It's as if some futsal team participated in the Champions League and won every match by 4 goals.

How about a skijumper just waltzing in an winning the Vuelta 3 times in a row (and then a 4th time a few years later)?
 
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It's time to finish off the fourth edition of the modern TdFF. All the jerseys could very well already be worn by their eventual winners, but the two other podium spots and the rest of the top 5 can still experience multiple shake ups during this stage.

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Yesterday the breakaway got its initial gap on a climb, while today it might happen during a descent. Combloux has become a rather famous place within the cycling world in recent years, but it won't be a decisive point on this stage, although Sarah Gigante will probably still be glad that the she doesn't have to ride down the Côte de Domancy on this occasion.

The first climb of the day is the Côte d'Arâches-la-Frasse which is the first third of the Col de Pierre-Carrée. A 5 km plateau is then followed by an 8 km descent to Cluses which averages around 5%.

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The (expected) highlight will of course be the next well known mountain to make an appearance in this race: Col du Joux Plane. Unlike Madeleine which was previously used at least twice in the Grande Boucle Féminine (1995/2002), I'm not sure Joux Plane has featured in a women's race since the original TdFF. Back then they usually rode the last 40-100 km of the men's stages which meant they had descent finishes in Morzine in both 1984 and '87, won by Heleen Hage and Jeannie Longo respectively.

While shorter than Madeleine, Joux Plane is in no way an easy climb. The second half averages around 9% so differenced can definitely be made there. There are still nearly 60 km left from the top, but as we saw on the easier, but not too different opening stage of this year's Tour de Suisse W, it can be hard to close a gap if the strongest riders are ahead and too many of the others don't believe they can win anyway.

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The descent to Morzine starts out easy, but kicks off after first 3 km, with steepest part coming towards the bottom. 11 hairpin turns will have to be dealt with. You don't want to get it wrong like Le Court yesterday.

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The road continues to go mostly downhill for the next 14 km un til they reach the bottom of the final categorised climb of the 2025 TdFF, the Col du Corbier. It's another 8-9% ascent, but only half the length of Joux Plane. However at this point of the race some riders may not have much left in the tank, and you could also easily see some that freeze up after the long descent beforehand.

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From the bottom of the descent there are 23 km left to the line. The first 15.5 km are false flat, which is then followed by a 1.5 km climb at around 7% to Châtel, before the final 4 km which are displayed below. When Bob Jungels won here in the 2022 Tour, they came via the Pas de Morgins from Switzerland instead.

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The big gap between PFP and the rest will probably mean the GC win won't be in any danger, but I assume that FDJ still want to win a stage and also that Niewiadoma won't be satisfied with finishing outside the podium for the first time, so there should definitely still be some action, although it won't match the drama from last year.
 
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Isn't there something about that actually being the reason she wears those short shorts? Having anything tight around that part of her leg simply hurting too much.
I think so - its that leg but not what you'd think it is is all i remember. I know we've talked about it in the womens thread & found the answer. I just can't remember the full details.
 
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Just finished watching, I guess development in women's road racing is just as worst as the mens. Can't develop winners from youth levels so steal from fish twirling or ski dancing. Here a mountain biker waltzes in and wins Paris-Roubaix and the Tour just like that. It's as if some futsal team participated in the Champions League and won every match by 4 goals.
Now now, a mountain biker who has already demonstrated more than enough pedigree on the road. It's not like she didn't have a road palmarès that most pros would be jealous of before she decided to focus specifically on MTB.

A lot can be said about her super-peaking, the fact that her performances get an obvious upgrade in any race in France, and that she does it while riding for Visma-LAB (and that she coincidentally returns to become the first French winner of the women's Tour just as a generation of promising French climbers arrives, after all you can only be the first once), but criticising development in women's cycling because "a mountain biker waltzes in and wins" is very unfair considering we aren't talking a one-off late convert like when Nino Schurter drops in to race Romandie and Suisse, we're talking somebody who already won the Road World Championships, La Flèche Wallonne and Emakumeen Bira and podiumed the Giro over a decade ago.
 
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Just finished watching, I guess development in women's road racing is just as worst as the mens. Can't develop winners from youth levels so steal from fish twirling or ski dancing. Here a mountain biker waltzes in and wins Paris-Roubaix and the Tour just like that. It's as if some futsal team participated in the Champions League and won every match by 4 goals.
A few things wrong with this observation.

1) PFP is not "just" a mountain biker, she's a former world champion on the road for crying out loud! It's only later in her career that she started focusing on the mountain bike.

2) She didn't just waltz in, her first races back on the road showed that there was quite a long way to go for her in terms of climbing. She also didn't win Roubaix "just like that", it was more of a tactical win profiting from having Marianne Vos in the group behind, rather than actually being the strongest rider on the day.

3) She's an athlete who has learned to focus on one or two targets a year, and prepare for them almost maniacally. She does it in an oldschool way taking a crash diet which nobody does anymore, and losing 5 kgs for that one specific target (that's 10% of her body weight...) Over the whole year she's far from the best cyclist in the world, but over this one week she is.

4) The actual best cyclist in the world, Demi Vollering, is clearly not at her very best right now, barely being able to drop riders like Wlodarczyk and Kerbaol. That's not her level. I think a "normal" Vollering would at least be close to Gigante and possibly better. That would already offer a different perspective on PFP's performance.
 
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Just finished watching, I guess development in women's road racing is just as worst as the mens. Can't develop winners from youth levels so steal from fish twirling or ski dancing. Here a mountain biker waltzes in and wins Paris-Roubaix and the Tour just like that. It's as if some futsal team participated in the Champions League and won every match by 4 goals.

Also gotta think Cedrine Kerbaol is the perfect Vaughters rider. Sole purpose is to annoy others. Every race she's in a small group of favorites, a minute behind the head of the race and refuses to do work. Then, after the win is long gone up the road, she attacks for no reason, is caught and promptly dropped. Every time!

Pity that PFP has had a decorated road career before concentrating on mountain bike in the last few years.
 

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Where do you get 13 from? I count way more than that, including multipe World Championships.
Now please show me where you see more wins.
 
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Now please show me where you see more wins.

That only includes road wins. You have to look here:

 

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It's the intertubes, you an figure this one out very easily, and know preciesly what she is referring to. You're not having a serious conversation, you're making a dishonest point, to promote a hate filled narrative, because she rides for Visma. Be honest or stop wasting everyone's time.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
I'm not hating on anyone.
One of my favorite riders is the GOAT of women - Marianne Vos.
And she rides for Visma.
 
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It's beautiful to see such a generational talent take the place her talent deserves. She is clearly the best woman cyclist walking. Her win yesterday was beautiful, and I imagine today will see her finish this off. Chapeau PFP!!
 
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I have no idea what you're talking about.
I'm not hating on anyone.
One of my favorite riders is the GOAT of women - Marianne Vos.
And she rides for Visma.
You made clinic allegations yesterday, so stop pretending that your assessment is honest.