Tour de France Tour de France Stage 6, Mâcon-Dijon, 162.5k

[RobertCrawley]

lol, in the netflix series he is talking to mvdp i think and says something like '*** everybody else, we win is all that matters'

In the Netflix series, Christoph Roodhooft, the DS of Alpecin, emphasized that they care about winning, not the criticism.

 

[Lequack]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1808894207026672016

View: https://twitter.com/Domestique___/status/1808894207026672016

 

[Danskebjerge]

Judging by the comments from Uno-X after the stage, I think Magnus Cort might actually be the best sprinter on the team right now.

 

[noob]

Just having to say that if Philipsen would be as psychopathic or dark triad as people seems to assume he would also be immune to punishment. It won't teach him. The darker the less susceptible to punishment.

 

[Gratemans]

Everyone against Philipsen. Have you all seen what Cav did yesterday the whole last km? If that was Jasper we would never hear the end of it.

He has to choose a side around Mathieu, this happens all the time in close battle. It looks more offensive because someone is closer to the side. It was close though, but nothing to get relegated.

I wanted Philipsen to win, but when the actual sprint really took off, Mathieu was long gone already. Let's just call it like is: Jasper pushed Wout into the barriers. I don't like it, but it _is_ what actually happened.
Weird thing is, he didn't even need it. He's got the speed, he's got his train Mathieu.
Don't b*tch about it, just win the next sprint.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Congratulations to Dylan Groenewegen for winning the sprint.

A stage on where battle for position lasted through majority of the stage, some crosswinds action involved, on where dropping UAE bar Pogi ... Philipsen was relegated rightfully, that is if the rider being pushed in the barriers doesn't back off, crash will likely be the outcome. As van Aert gave up his chances to win the stage, to prevent the crash, rider pushing should not be rewarded for it. Avoiding the crash and relegation after the race is the right approach. Cavendish angry at camera, for exposing him drafting.

 

[pablohidalgo7]

I think this is correct about sprinters and is likely exascerbated by the fact that since the 90s, we have been accustomed to most Grand Tours (and sometimes entire seasons) being dominated by a single top sprinter. I was in some debate yesterday about Cavendish; I was arguing that while Cavendish hasn't been the dominant force he was in say 2009, he has been there to mix it up in some sprints over the past couple of years and has managed to win a few (and was usually placing near or just above Groenewegan in those sprints). His pulling of a stage win (and maybe more) wasn't particularly surprising to me, but some people perceive that Cavendish has done nothing over the past couple of years to suggest that he was still capable of winning a Tour stage. I think Gaviria belongs in this category too, and it wouldn't be the strangest thing in the world if he pulled off a win in this Tour.

Though many people would point to Phillipsen, I actually don't think that we have one sprinter right now who is truly head and shoulders over the rest. Phillipsen, 26, probably is the best of his generation, so I think a lot of people feel like he (or maybe Jakobsen, 27) *should* be dominating the sprints. Historically dominant dudes in their 30s (almost 40 for Cavendish) being competitive in sprints and pulling off wins feels wrong to people, even though those guys have been present at the pointy end of races all along.

Agree about Cavs too, it is like a vicious circle, he is not consistent but his top is quite high still. His victory in Hungary versus Dylan was top sprinting, but like people think Groenwegen is wasted for a couple a bad sprints before (after illness) they automatically think that this sprint was nothing, a weeks later we saw Dylan starting winning again and smashing Kooij in the nationals.

If you analyse the whole context, the logical conclusion for me was: Okay, Philipsen and Alpecin are the big favs but he is not that great this year and he can be beaten, and without Merlier or Milan a great candidate to to that speedwise is Groenewegen and maybe Cavendish if he can reproduce that sprint of Hungary.

I swear it's not an afterthought, I really believed this before the Tour.