Tour de Pologne 2023 (July 29th - August 4th)

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Almeida favourite I think with Mcnulty and Van Wilder in the mix

With Kwiatkowski and Mohoric. That seems like the most logical top 5 at the moment. In any order.

 

[Didinho]

Sad for my local man Van Eetvelt, stranded in the end.

 

[Landeirovic]

With Kwiatkowski and Mohoric. That seems like the most logical top 5 at the moment. In any order.

Mohoric and Kwiatkowski will lose time in ITT against them

 

[Samamba]

Van Eetvelt will win a stage in the Vuelta.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Mohoric and Kwiatkowski will lose time in ITT against them

Yes, they should, but still could make the top 5 or podium. Also Mohoric is a decent TT'er and Kwiatkowski was actually a very good TT'er. Two years ago he only lost 18s to Cavagna over 19km. Add boniseconds and McNulty already has to make up 28s to Mohoric, in 16km.

 

[Calicimber]

Lenny Martinez is one to watch out for that's a pretty good finish for him on a punchy stage where he got in a wreck.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Almeida favourite I think with Mcnulty and Van Wilder in the mix

Majka can probably top 10 too now.

 

[yaco]

Van Eetvelt will win a stage in the Vuelta.

I am surprised Van Eetvelt was not at the TDF - he could have got a good result or two.

 

[Samamba]

I am surprised Van Eetvelt was not at the TDF - he could have got a good result or two.

He's a neopro that was sidelined for a month due to a doping agency's bullying tactics and only went back to racing just over a month before the TDF and you wanted Lotto to send him to the Tour?

 

[Didinho]

Saw the sprint and finally these yellow (Belgium classics) barriers for the finish! Maybe with their history in Poland they decided to do something. Now the other WT races have to follow.

 

[Lequack]

Interview with the winner

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i1vpzf0sN0

 

[roundabout]

Almeida and Kwiatkowski are scheduled to do the WCRR. Poland ends under 40 hours (probably) before the start of the road race.

I think both will stay in the race if they are top-3 after the ITT, but I also would not be too surprised if both leave the race.

 

[Rob5091]

Van Eetvelt will win a stage in the Vuelta.

The young Lennys (M & VE) will be interesting to watch at the Vuelta.

 

[Bertram Wooster]

Almeida favourite I think with Mcnulty and Van Wilder in the mix

McNulty will lose more time tomorrow.
Almeida should win this, before Kwiatkowski, Mohoric and Van Wilder.

But the time gaps tomorrow could be significantly bigger than today.

 

[yaco]

He's a neopro that was sidelined for a month due to a doping agency's bullying tactics and only went back to racing just over a month before the TDF and you wanted Lotto to send him to the Tour?

I am fully aware of his background - He was in good enough form before the TDF to take a throw at the stumps as Lotto didn't have the strongest team.

 

[Rob5091]

Stage 3 - talk of strong crosswinds. If so, that could shake things up.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Mohoric is in lethal form. I expect he could surprise people even in the ITT

 

[search]

Mohoric is in lethal form. I expect he could surprise people even in the ITT

yeah, it didn't really made much sense to me that he preferred this (+Eneco) over the World Championships, but looks like he has a shot at the victory indeed.

 

[tobydawq]

Mohoric is in lethal form. I expect he could surprise people even in the ITT

He is - like Wellens - a rider where it doesn't really make sense that he isn't good in an ITT.

 

[tobydawq]

“I think I can be happy with second, Matej was pretty strong, also in the last few hundred metres I had to switch to a big chainring because Matej was on a small one, so I lost one metre there, which maybe cost me the victory,"

I don't get this. Is there a new rule that you can't be on the same chainring as the rider riding in front of you? Or has the DS been informing Almeida falsehoods?

 

[Samamba]

He is - like Wellens - a rider where it doesn't really make sense that he isn't good in an ITT.

Wellens had a really good TT when he focussed on it.

Baloise Belgium Tour 2019 Stage 3 (ITT) results

Baloise Belgium Tour 2019 Stage 3 (ITT) from Grimbergen to Grimbergen was won by Tim Wellens before Nathan Van Hooydonck and Victor Campenaerts. Remco Evenepoel was leading the general classification.

www.procyclingstats.com

Vuelta a Andalucia Ruta Ciclista Del Sol 2019 Stage 3 (ITT) results

Tim Wellens is the winner of Vuelta a Andalucia Ruta Ciclista Del Sol 2019 Stage 3 (ITT), before Jakob Fuglsang and Ion Izagirre. Tim Wellens was leader in GC.

www.procyclingstats.com

 

[Samamba]

Very strong and big break trying to get away early.

Cattaneo, Sivakov, Kron, Wellens, Poole, McNulty among them.

Peloton obviously not wanting to let them go.

Hard to see what's exactly going on cause those Polish broadcasters prefers to show touristic stuff instead of the race.

 

[Samamba]

Just Kron and Mosca gone in the end.

 

[Aimar16]

Infront holds the distribution rights for this race till 2024, at least.

I don't think it has anything to do with anyone being mad at the other. They just sell the broadcasting rights to whoever is willing to pay enough for it. Eurosport/GCN is not, by the look of it.

Eurosport has always bought only a sub-licence from Polish state TV, not the full rights. But from 2021, Polish TV will no longer give Eurosport a permission to do so - https://www.press.pl/tresc/66850,eu...ogne_-wyscig---obok-tvp---pokaze-polsat-sport

I don't know if it has anything to do with this, but in the past the british commentators on Eurosport have made a lot of fun of the low standard of TV coverage of this race - https://www.sport.pl/kolarstwo/7,93...bulwersowani-poziomem-transmisji-tour-de.html

 

[search]

Eurosport has always bought only a sub-licence from Polish state TV, not the full rights. But from 2021, Polish TV will no longer give Eurosport a permission to do so - https://www.press.pl/tresc/66850,eu...ogne_-wyscig---obok-tvp---pokaze-polsat-sport

I think it's related to what I mentioned. Your article also says "The broadcaster bought them [the broadcasting rights] from the Infront Agency", and that wasn't the case before 2021

Infront ups cycling presence with Tour de Pologne partnership

Infront has added cycling’s Tour de Pologne to its growing summer sports media rights portfolio after reaching an agreement with the event’s right holder National Polish Television (TVP).

www.infront.sport

So I would think they don't allow this kind of sublicensing, or the general way the rights are distributed has changed with them taking charge.