Tour Mediterranen

[Andy99]

Jon ought to frame the current 2012 CQ victory rankings;

Victory Ranking 2012
1. [BEL] BOONEN Tom 4
2. [GBR] TIERNAN-LOCKE Jonathan 3
3. [ITA] VIVIANI Elia 3
4. [GER] GREIPEL Andre 3
5. [NED] KREDER Michel 2

 

[theyoungest]

Vuelta a Leon never lies! (his stage win there was more impressive to me as his whole Tour of Britiain riding)

Meh, his win in Leon was like Cadel Evans on the Mont Ventoux, stay on the wheel the whole time and then sprint at the end. Plus the ToB is a pro race, maybe not a great field climbing-wise but still.

 

[sublimit]

Nah you cant underestimate TOB, plenty of good riders on **** rough, exposed undulating roads with crap weather, so its always tough to go top 10 on GC.

He's a talented rider so congratulations to him, maybe a late developer and destined for a bigger team for certain.

 

[Fus087]

I don't know how the ranking works so let me get this right:

All the 1.1,1.HC,2.HC races don't count for the ranking of the teams?! Things like Tre Vale Varesine, Emillia, Kuurne don't give points?

Nah, that would be too easy, wouldn't it?
For the WorldTour ranking (that nobody gives a sh*t about, I don't even remember who won last year - probably Gilbert though) only WT races count.

For the top-secret UCI ranking to determine which teams will get a WT spot, it's different: Riders get points according to their places in an expanded WT ranking (also including riders from non-WT teams) and expanded Continental rankings (also including riders from WT teams). Additionally, riders get points for victories, also in Continental races. So, for a WT rider, winning a Continental race is worth something, while reaching the podium/top-5/top-10 is only worth something indirectly (via the expanded rankings).

And if you think that sounds complicated: It's supposed to be, we're talking about the UCI here.

 

[trevim]

Nah, that would be too easy, wouldn't it?
For the WorldTour ranking (that nobody gives a sh*t about, I don't even remember who won last year - probably Gilbert though) only WT races count.

For the top-secret UCI ranking to determine which teams will get a WT spot, it's different: Riders get points according to their places in an expanded WT ranking (also including riders from non-WT teams) and expanded Continental rankings (also including riders from WT teams). Additionally, riders get points for victories, also in Continental races. So, for a WT rider, winning a Continental race is worth something, while reaching the podium/top-5/top-10 is only worth something indirectly (via the expanded rankings).

And if you think that sounds complicated: It's supposed to be, we're talking about the UCI here.

Wow!... They should just use CQ ranking to see the teams that get WT spot. Not even clear rules or anything, that's just a big mess.

 

[will10]

Wow!... They should just use CQ ranking to see the teams that get WT spot. Not even clear rules or anything, that's just a big mess.

CQ is not without it's flaws. Reggio Calabria this weekend is a perfect example - Mr. Viviani scored 78 points for each of his stage wins there...

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Michel Kreder finished in the group behind Garzelli/Navarro that sprinted for 4th place.

 

[Gloin22]

CQ is not without it's flaws. Reggio Calabria this weekend is a perfect example - Mr. Viviani scored 78 points for each of his stage wins there...

Ymmm.... nooo

He scored 20 points for the win twice. He got 110 for winning GC though which is pretty ridiculous for a two day race like this, so CQ definitely has few big flaws, but it's better at giving year overview of the teams then UCI WT ranking does.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Ymmm.... nooo

He scored 20 points for the win twice. He got 110 for winning GC though which is pretty ridiculous for a two day race like this, so CQ definitely has few big flaws, but it's better at giving year overview of the teams then UCI WT ranking does.

What Will means is that Viviani won 2 stages of a flat race, and for it he won 156 CQ points.

20 for winning stage 1
20 for winning stage 2
110 for winning the GC
6 for wearing the leader's jersey after stage 1

Total 156. Total number of stages entered: 2
156/2 = 78.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

If we're talking CQ, I just noticed the UK have now moved past Australia (obviously failing to capitalise on their inbuilt advantage as much as last year, despite still winning that 'race').

 

[LaFlorecita]

Dani! *tackle!glomps him*

 

[Libertine Seguros]

If we're talking CQ, I just noticed the UK have now moved past Australia (obviously failing to capitalise on their inbuilt advantage as much as last year, despite still winning that 'race').

That's the rolling year ranking for countries, so it includes Cavendish's Worlds, Wiggins' Dauphiné and of course Froome's and Wiggins' Vuelta. It means over the last 12 months British riders have outperformed Aussie ones, which is no mean feat.

On the 2012-specific CQ rankings, Australia are first with 1284, ahead of Spain (although Contador's points have not been removed from CQ yet), Belgium and France. Great Britain are 7th with 390, but I suspect that Tiernan-Locke's points for the GC haven't yet been included.


Edit: Movistar have posted some more information.

Clasificación Etapa

* 1º Tiernan-Locke (EDR) 1.54.05
* 2º Navarro (SAX) 0.17
* 3º Garzelli (ASA) m.t.
* 4º Madrazo (MOV) 0.22
* 5º Sorensen (SAX) 0.27

* 4º Ángel Madrazo 0.22
* 10º Andrey Amador 0.27
* 16º Nairo Quintana m.t.
* 21º David López m.t.
* 34º Jesús Herrada 0.47
* 43º Ignatas Konovalovas 1.07
* 57º Fran Ventoso 1.52
* 95º Enrique Sanz 5.02

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

That's the rolling year ranking for countries, so it includes Cavendish's Worlds, Wiggins' Dauphiné and of course Froome's and Wiggins' Vuelta. It means over the last 12 months British riders have outperformed Aussie ones, which is no mean feat.

On the 2012-specific CQ rankings, Australia are first with 1284, ahead of Spain (although Contador's points have not been removed from CQ yet), Belgium and France. Great Britain are 7th with 390, but I suspect that Tiernan-Locke's points for the GC haven't yet been included.

Yes, I know its the rolling one, but at the end of the year Australia were ahead.

Hence relative to their performance last year, relative to GB's performance relative to their performance last year, they have weakened.

They always start strong as CQ gives an awful lot of points for their inevitable wins in their NC's and TDU.

 

[Andy99]

Interview with Jon here after the stage;

http://www.velouk.net/2012/02/12/report-jon-locke-wins-the-tour-of-the-med/

Interesting to note that most of his pre-season training was done on the turbo

 

[Andy99]

Some performance today. Notably;

2. NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel
3. GARZELLI Stefano
4. MADRAZO RUIZ Angel
5. SØRENSEN Nicki
11. MONCOUTIÉ David
12. PAURIOL Rémi
14. NOCENTINI Rinaldo
18. DI GREGORIO Remy

No idea where the first greenedge rider finished.

 

[Andy99]

Full stage result

1 Jonathan Tiernan-locke Endura Racing 01:54:05
2 Daniel Navarro Garcia Team Saxo Bank 00:17
3 Stefano Garzelli Acqua & Sapone @ same time
4 Angel Ruiz Madrazo Movistar Team 00:22
5 Nicki Sørensen Team Saxo Bank 00:27
6 Laurent Mangel Saur – Sojasun @ same time
7 Julien El Fares Team Type 1 – SANOFI @ same time
8 Romain Hardy Bretagne Schuller @ same time
9 Thibaut Pinot Equipe Cycliste FDJ – BigMat @ same time
10 Andrey Amador Bakkazakova Movistar Team @ same time
11 David Moncoutié Cofidis – Le Credit En Ligne @ same time
12 Rémi Pauriol Equipe Cycliste FDJ – BigMat @ same time
13 Yoann Bagot Cofidis – Le Credit En Ligne @ same time
14 Rinaldo Nocentini Ag2R – La Mondiale @ same time
15 Francesco Gavazzi Astana Pro Team @ same time
16 Nairo Alexander Quintana Rojas Movistar Team @ same time
17 Florian Guillou Bretagne Schuller @ same time
18 Rémy Di Gregorio Cofidis – Le Credit En Ligne @ same time
19 Fabrice Jeandesboz Saur – Sojasun @ same time
20 Stefan Denifl Vacansoleil – DCM Pro Cycling Team @ same time
21 David Lopez Garcia Movistar Team @ same time
22 Michel Kreder Team Garmin – Barracuda @ same time
23 Maxime Mederel Saur – Sojasun @ same time
24 Simon Clarke GreenEdge Cycling Team @ same time
25 Egor Silin Astana Pro Team @ same time
26 Rafal Majka Team Saxo Bank @ same time
27 Pierre Rolland Europcar @ same time
28 Clément Koretzky La Pomme Marseille 00:36
29 Jussi Veikkanen Equipe Cycliste FDJ – BigMat 00:39
30 Jérémy Roy Equipe Cycliste FDJ – BigMat @ same time
31 Sergey Renev Astana Pro Team @ same time
32 Rafael Valls Ferri Vacansoleil – DCM Pro Cycling Team @ same time
33 Johan Le Bon Bretagne Schuller 00:44
34 Jesús Lopez Herrada Movistar Team 00:47
35 Francesco Ginanni Acqua & Sapone 00:50
36 Jean-christophe Peraud Ag2R – La Mondiale 00:55
37 Julien Antomarchi Team Type 1 – SANOFI 01:05
38 Guillaume Boivin Spidertech Powered By C10 01:07
39 Chris Anker Sorensen Team Saxo Bank @ same time
40 Vladimir Miholjevic Acqua & Sapone @ same time
41 Maxim Iglinskiy Astana Pro Team @ same time
42 Yohan Cauquil La Pomme Marseille @ same time
43 Ignatas Konovalovas Movistar Team @ same time
44 Wesley Sulzberger GreenEdge Cycling Team @ same time
45 Michael Albasini GreenEdge Cycling Team 01:16
46 Russell Downing Endura Racing 01:49
47 Romain Bardet Ag2R – La Mondiale @ same time
48 Sebastien Duret Bretagne Schuller 01:52
49 Grégoire Tarride La Pomme Marseille @ same time
50 Benjamin Gonzalez Noval Team Saxo Bank @ same time
51 David Tanner Team Saxo Bank @ same time
52 Massimo Codol Acqua & Sapone @ same time
53 Sébastien Turgot Europcar @ same time
54 Lucas Euser Spidertech Powered By C10 @ same time
55 Wouter Mol Vacansoleil – DCM Pro Cycling Team @ same time
56 Mickael Buffaz Cofidis – Le Credit En Ligne @ same time
57 Francisco José Ventoso Alberdi Movistar Team @ same time
58 Christophe Le Mevel Team Garmin – Barracuda @ same time
59 Daniel Martin Team Garmin – Barracuda @ same time
60 James Vanlandschoot Accent.jobs – Willems Veranda’s @ same time
61 Vincent Jerome Europcar @ same time
62 Tomasz Marczynski Vacansoleil – DCM Pro Cycling Team @ same time
63 Leonardo Fabio Duque Cofidis – Le Credit En Ligne @ same time
64 Alexandre Pichot Europcar 02:25
65 Kristof Goddaert Ag2R – La Mondiale 02:39
66 Staf Scheirlinckx Accent.jobs – Willems Veranda’s @ same time
67 Martin Mortensen Vacansoleil – DCM Pro Cycling Team @ same time
68 Luke Roberts Team Saxo Bank @ same time
69 Pierre Luc Perichon La Pomme Marseille @ same time
70 Steven Caethoven Accent.jobs – Willems Veranda’s 02:53
71 Kevin Van Impe Vacansoleil – DCM Pro Cycling Team @ same time
72 Kiel Reijnen Team Type 1 – SANOFI 03:02
73 Peter Stetina Team Garmin – Barracuda @ same time
74 Caleb Fairly Spidertech Powered By C10 @ same time
75 Thomas Peterson Team Garmin – Barracuda @ same time
76 Florent Barle Cofidis – Le Credit En Ligne @ same time
77 Benjamin Giraud La Pomme Marseille @ same time
78 Thomas Vaubourzeix La Pomme Marseille @ same time
79 Martijn Verschoor Team Type 1 – SANOFI @ same time
80 Fabio Taborre Acqua & Sapone @ same time
81 Mathieu Delaroziere La Pomme Marseille @ same time
82 Arnaud Courteille Equipe Cycliste FDJ – BigMat @ same time
83 Arnaud Labbe Cofidis – Le Credit En Ligne @ same time
84 Mads Christensen Team Saxo Bank @ same time
85 Rony Martias Saur – Sojasun @ same time
86 Jonathan Patrick Mccarty Spidertech Powered By C10 @ same time
87 Paul Poux Saur – Sojasun 03:14
88 Travis Meyer GreenEdge Cycling Team @ same time
89 Tomas Vaitkus GreenEdge Cycling Team @ same time
90 Matthew Wilson GreenEdge Cycling Team @ same time
91 Jean-lou Paiani Saur – Sojasun @ same time
92 David Boily Spidertech Powered By C10 03:39
93 Florian Vachon Bretagne Schuller 04:16
94 Benoit Vaugrenard Equipe Cycliste FDJ – BigMat 04:36
95 Enrique Sanz Unzue Movistar Team 05:02
96 Scott Thwaites Endura Racing 05:14
97 René Mandri Endura Racing @ same time
98 Rob Partridge Endura Racing @ same time
99 Alex Howes Team Garmin – Barracuda @ same time
100 Yauheni Hutarovich Equipe Cycliste FDJ – BigMat @ same time
101 Valentin Iglinskiy Astana Pro Team @ same time
102 Assan Bazayev Astana Pro Team @ same time
103 Borut Bozic Astana Pro Team @ same time
104 Arnoud Van Groen Accent.jobs – Willems Veranda’s @ same time
105 Romain Lemarchand Ag2R – La Mondiale @ same time
106 Angelo Tulik Europcar @ same time
107 Thomas Voeckler Europcar @ same time
108 Jérôme Cousin Europcar @ same time
109 Eric Berthou Bretagne Schuller 06:47
110 Romain Feillu Vacansoleil – DCM Pro Cycling Team 08:40
111 Stéphane Poulhies Saur – Sojasun @ same time
112 Alexandre Blain Endura Racing @ same time
113 Romain Zingle Cofidis – Le Credit En Ligne @ same time
114 Joey Rosskopf Team Type 1 – SANOFI 08:49
115 Sébastien Hinault Ag2R – La Mondiale 09:53
116 Sébastien Chavanel Europcar @ same time
117 Manuel Belletti Ag2R – La Mondiale @ same time
118 Raymond Kreder Team Garmin – Barracuda @ same time
119 Will Routley Spidertech Powered By C10 @ same time
120 Jens Keukeleire GreenEdge Cycling Team 10:57
121 Koldo Fernández De Larrea Team Garmin – Barracuda @ same time
122 Filippo Fortin Team Type 1 – SANOFI @ same time
123 Marcello Pavarin Vacansoleil – DCM Pro Cycling Team @ same time
124 Jimmy Casper Ag2R – La Mondiale @ same time
DNF Ian Wilkinson Endura Racing
DNF Danilo Napolitano Acqua & Sapone
DNF Brett Lancaster GreenEdge Cycling Team
DNF Mathieu Halleguen Bretagne Schuller
DNF Guillaume Blot Bretagne Schuller
DNF Aldo Ino Ilesic Team Type 1 – SANOFI
DNF Etienne Tortelier Saur – Sojasun
DNF Andy Cappelle Accent.jobs – Willems Veranda’s
DNF Leif Hoste Accent.jobs – Willems Veranda’s
DNF Evert Verbist Accent.jobs – Willems Veranda’s
DNF Sjef De Wilde Accent.jobs – Willems Veranda’s
DNF Ian Bibby Endura Racing
DNF Jacopo Guarnieri Astana Pro Team
DNS Kenny Elissonde Equipe Cycliste FDJ – BigMat
DNS Bjorn Selander Spidertech Powered By C10

 

[Andy99]

Previous Tour of Med winners

 

[Maaaaaaaarten]

Good to see Kreder can stil climb, despite randomly winning bunch sprints.

I really hope he'll keep up the good work and can start winning hilly stages from reduced bunch sprints and such and maybe sprinting uphill.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Yup good to see Kreder surviving in a decent group and finishing 2nd overall. Good confidence boost

 

[Christian]

Well that should do it for a nice contract with Sky next year.

Previous Tour of Med winners

Some pretty impressive names. My favourite is Jôrg Jasche

 

[LaFlorecita]

Saxoboys did well, 2nd and 5th.

 

[Andy99]

Well that should do it for a nice contract with Sky next year.



Some pretty impressive names. My favourite is Jôrg Jasche

Oh yeah 'Bella' I'd forgotten about him!

 

[jens_attacks]

Previous Tour of Med winners

indeed.well let's hope jon can get a nice career going from now.
had no idea he's that kind of strong and has cobo like legs

 

[taiwan]

Nice win for Endura. Tiernan-Locke must be on track for as good a season as you can have on that team. Russell Downing is sure to bring in some results as well.

 

[gingerwallaceafro]

Yeah but this guy is a British domestic pro, imagine one of the domestic Portugese guys from Carmin or some other team winning Tour of the Med, I think it would be considered very impressive.

It's even more impressive, as I'd be doubting the cleanliness of a domestic Portuguese rider..