Tour of Oman

[taiwan]

Well yes, but that doesn't make the fact that he is inconsistent any less true...

No it doesn't. Wasn't arguing. Just pointing out that Bos potentially could still become more consistent.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Bos differs from Chicchi in that he's still developing as a road sprinter.

this is true, last year was bos's firsts season in the pro ranks (rode with CT in 09'), so there could still be room for improvement no doubt. And even at cervelo he never got much of a train to work off.

obviously he is no Kristoff, but maybe one day

 

[theyoungest]

Bos, Chicchi are just as quick as anyone on their day but lack the consistency of the top sprinters.

With Bos it's mostly been the positioning that hasn't been quite what it should be. Even with this win he came from nowhere. He tends to do a looong sprint.

 

[Eric8-A]

With Bos it's mostly been the positioning that hasn't been quite what it should be. Even with this win he came from nowhere. He tends to do a looong sprint.

Bradley Wiggins has said that Theo Bos is quicker than Mark Cavendish. It's just that he has a problem with positioning.

 

[Kwibus]

Bos differs from Chicchi in that he's still developing as a road sprinter.

Bos allready said that last year he had a lot of problems with his positioning and that's still his main problem. Keeping your position or moving to a good position is the most important part of a bunch sprint.

Edit: oh wow a lot of posts above me saying Bos positioning is bad. Guess that's something we all agree on

 

[ingsve]

Boasson Hagen hoping to go well in GC here but admits he will probably have trouble against the best climbers. How much time would he need to get over them in the ITT and bonus seconds to have a shot?

The diffrence between Mont Faron and Green Mountain doesn't seem to be that big. Faron is around 5.7km at 9% and Green Mountain around 6 at 10%. In Faron there were 28 riders within 1:30 and there were more climbers there than there are in Oman. I think in the end it will depend on how hard the climb is fought but if EBH can avoid losing much more than a minute then I think he could have a shot.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Watching it now, on Eurosport.

Right, so 0.004" in it.
Cav partially boxed, had to switch from the right hand barrier to the centre of the course. Ran out of road, but was a lot quicker.

 

[theyoungest]

Boasson Hagen hoping to go well in GC here but admits he will probably have trouble against the best climbers. How much time would he need to get over them in the ITT and bonus seconds to have a shot?

The diffrence between Mont Faron and Green Mountain doesn't seem to be that big. Faron is around 5.7km at 9% and Green Mountain around 6 at 10%. In Faron there were 28 riders within 1:30 and there were more climbers there than there are in Oman. I think in the end it will depend on how hard the climb is fought but if EBH can avoid losing much more than a minute then I think he could have a shot.

The Green Mountain apparently has stretches at 18%, and 4 kms at 13,5% average. That's certainly steeper than Mont Faron, it's almost Mur de Huy-like, only three times as long. Rodriguez will really have a field day on that one, and he might build up a decent advantage.

 

[ingsve]

The Green Mountain apparently has stretches at 18%, and 4 kms at 13,5% average. That's certainly steeper than Mont Faron, it's almost Mur de Huy-like, only three times as long. Rodriguez will really have a field day on that one, and he might build up a decent advantage.

Ya, that seems a little steep. Though Rodrigues will certainly lose at least 2 minutes in the ITT even with the bumps in that course.

 

[Ferminal]

Let's say he's similar in TT ability to Vino... For Vino to definitely beat him he would want 30s on the climb. Not a tough prospect really.

If the pace is high onto the climb EBH should comfortably lose 3-5 minutes on the best climbers.

 

[theyoungest]

Ya, that seems a little steep. Though Rodrigues will certainly lose at least 2 minutes in the ITT even with the bumps in that course.

There are quite a few strong climbers in this race, not all of them have such an awful TT as Rodriguez (although I'll keep saying it, I don't think J-Rod will do that bad on such a hard TT).

 

[ingsve]

Let's say he's similar in TT ability to Vino... For Vino to definitely beat him he would want 30s on the climb. Not a tough prospect really.

If the pace is high onto the climb EBH should comfortably lose 3-5 minutes on the best climbers.

Ya, that's probably the safe bet but I think it's interesting that he's going to try at least.

In a recent session where he answered questions from readers of procycling.no he said that fighting in the top of a GT is probably out of the question unless he sometime in the future becomes lighter. The interesting thing however is that on the question of what he though he could do in a GT he said he could possibly finish around top 20.

 

[theyoungest]

Ya, that's probably the safe bet but I think it's interesting that he's going to try at least.

In a recent session where he answered questions from readers of procycling.no he said that fighting in the top of a GT is probably out of the question unless he sometime in the future becomes lighter. The interesting thing however is that on the question of what he though he could do in a GT he said he could possibly finish around top 20.

In the GP Montreal he climbed with the best, but I got the feeling that if the climb were a little longer he'd have blown. He can handle a 2 km climb on pure power, but 6 km is a little long.

 

[Kwibus]

In the GP Montreal he climbed with the best, but I got the feeling that if the climb were a little longer he'd have blown. He can handle a 2 km climb on pure power, but 6 km is a little long.

I'd say EBH is great on a hilly course, but mountains are probably too much for him.

This mountain should J-Rods to conquer, but if he wins enough time on the others to keep his lead after the TT is uncertain. Gesink should do well, but it's his first race allthough he said that he doesn't neccesarily need races to get a good form.
He shouldn't lose more then a minute on J-Rod though as his TT isn't fantastic either. There are some more good outsiders as well.

 

[Captain_Cavman]

In the GP Montreal he climbed with the best, but I got the feeling that if the climb were a little longer he'd have blown. He can handle a 2 km climb on pure power, but 6 km is a little long.

Although here, the best won't be at their best while EBH should be closer to his. Might make it more exiting than it would be later in the season.

 

[Sasquatch]

Pinotti I tell ya.

 

[theyoungest]

I'd say EBH is great on a hilly course, but mountains are probably too much for him.

This mountain should J-Rods to conquer, but if he wins enough time on the others to keep his lead after the TT is uncertain. Gesink should do well, but it's his first race allthough he said that he doesn't neccesarily need races to get a good form.
He shouldn't lose more then a minute on J-Rod though as his TT isn't fantastic either. There are some more good outsiders as well.

Of course Gesink won't lose a minute on J-Rod, if he has any sort of form. He likes the steep climbs as well.

edit: apparently they're riding up this thing right now:

 

[auscyclefan94]

It will depends on the pace they ride it at. It is possible that all the teams with climbers will look at each other and the climb will be ridden rather slowly (in context of climbing speeds). I think some riders who aren't traditionally climbers may do well based on just having good form and that guys like Gesink or Rodriguez won't have good form.

 

[ingsve]

Pinotti I tell ya.

Ya for sure. EBH isn't the only TTer that can sort of climb. Cancellara will be interesting as well.

 

[Sasquatch]

Ya for sure. EBH isn't the only TTer that can sort of climb. Cancellara will be interesting as well.

Pinotti did well in the Giro last year. If he has that sort of form then it will be interesting. Cancellara - the climbs are too steep for him. Again, it depends on the pace it's ridden at.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Bos, Chicchi are just as quick as anyone on their day but lack the consistency of the top sprinters.

Wrong comparison. Can't compare Bos to Chicchi as Bos is only in his 3rd year on the road now and is already getting more consistent. The reason he is/was inconsistent is far different then Chicchi's....

edit, I see taiwan already beat me to it by far

Bos differs from Chicchi in that he's still developing as a road sprinter.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

It will depends on the pace they ride it at. It is possible that all the teams with climbers will look at each other and the climb will be ridden rather slowly (in context of climbing speeds). I think some riders who aren't traditionally climbers may do well based on just having good form and that guys like Gesink or Rodriguez won't have good form.

That's just the thing, riders like Gesink and Rodriguez almost never have 'bad form'. Make a study of Rodriguez and Gesink results and they exceptionally consistent throughout the season. Kind-a like your friend Cadel, who's also an all-season rider.

Nothing like Andy -let me get as many outside-top-100-places as I can- Schleck

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

It will depends on the pace they ride it at. It is possible that all the teams with climbers will look at each other and the climb will be ridden rather slowly (in context of climbing speeds). I think some riders who aren't traditionally climbers may do well based on just having good form and that guys like Gesink or Rodriguez won't have good form.

jrod rode in mallorca so he should have some form -- climb suits him too, i tip jrod forsure.
gesink doesn't generally need much race time to be good.

Pinotti i also like.
EBH even has a chance as his form needs to be decent if he wants to be good next weekend (I assume he is racing?) and prepare properly for the spring.

Vino is probably a good bet.
Good on the climb and itt. Might not win either, but overall should be up there.

Refuse to discount sinkewitz either.

 

[auscyclefan94]

That's just the thing, riders like Gesink and Rodriguez almost never have 'bad form'. Make a study of Rodriguez and Gesink results and they exceptionally consistent throughout the season. Kind-a like your friend Cadel, who's also an all-season rider.

Nothing like Andy -let me get as many outside-top-100-places as I can- Schleck

jrod rode in mallorca so he should have some form -- climb suits him too, i tip jrod forsure.
gesink doesn't generally need much race time to be good.

Pinotti i also like.
EBH even has a chance as his form needs to be decent if he wants to be good next weekend (I assume he is racing?) and prepare properly for the spring.

Vino is probably a good bet.
Good on the climb and itt. Might not win either, but overall should be up there.

Refuse to discount sinkewitz either.

Even so, it is hard in races like these, even with guys like JRod and BobbyG gnerally always have decent form. A MTF this early in the season is an anomaly. Anything could happen...

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Even so, it is hard in races like these, even with guys like JRod and BobbyG gnerally always have decent form. A MTF this early in the season is an anomaly. Anything could happen...

i do not disagree.
heck kristoff probably has more chance on green mountain then in the sprints