Tour of Romandie 2013

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Gesink outperformed by his co leaders and super domestique..
Lol

 

[TANK91]

Gesink outperformed by his co leaders and super domestique..
Lol

Same will happen in Giro probably, this is a big year if he fails then he cant make excuses can he.

 

[Maaaaaaaarten]

If today says anything about how Kruijswijk and Gesink compare now in their form, they should definitely have Kruijswijk for a captain. Kruijswijk's biggest strength is his recovery and he's just twice as good in the third week, at least he was in his previous two Giro's. If he starts in good shape, where he doesn't lose too much time, he could definitely do very well if he's best in the third week again.

Then again, let's just wait and see how Gesink, Kruijswijk and Kelderman will do coming week before drawing any conclusions. Normally Gesink should climb the same or better than Kruijswijk and do a better flat TT, and TAWK has always been excellent in prologues/short TT's.

It's a very good result by Kruijswijk though, looking forward to see how he'll do in the tough mountain stage.

 

[Pentacycle]

Same will happen in Giro probably, this is a big year if he fails then he cant make excuses can he.

You can't make overall conclusions concerning his form, but I'd say he'll lose a heap of time in the MTT of the Giro.

 

[Angliru]

Contador is finished.
The moment he realized Froome is a real deal (since Oman) he's going downwards.
As numerous time mentioned, the true character of a rider you can see when it's not all sunshine and roses.
I'm sure Contador sees in Froome an opponent he haven't seen before, and that's making him anxious.

If what you were saying were truly the case he would've folded and gave up when Purito was matching his every move in last years' Vuelta.

He would've done the same in 2011 at the Tour when he had multiple crashes instead of making his epic attack on the stage that finished at Alpe d'Huez.

This is just the dream scenario in your own little world that Contador is this weak-minded athlete that faced with adversity would simply crumble and quit.

 

[LaFlorecita]

If what you were saying were truly the case he would've folded and gave up when Purito was matching his every move in last years' Vuelta.

He would've done the same in 2011 at the Tour when he had multiple crashes instead of making his epic attack on the stage that finished at Alpe d'Huez.

This is just the dream scenario in your own little world that Contador is this weak-minded athlete that faced with adversity would simply crumble and quit.

yes. He ain't no quitter.

 

[Angliru]

As long as he's convinced he's the best - he copes with problems well.
That doesn't seem to be the case this spring.

I don't see him as having coping issues. If in fact he is no longer the best (stage racer) and the events of this early season are an indication of that how does that translate for you into him having coping issues? He's continued to compete and battle with his adversaries in the races that he's ridden. He's not riding in with the broomwagon and autobus as if on a training ride.

 

[serfla]

If what you were saying were truly the case he would've folded and gave up when Purito was matching his every move in last years' Vuelta.

He would've done the same in 2011 at the Tour when he had multiple crashes instead of making his epic attack on the stage that finished at Alpe d'Huez.

This is just the dream scenario in your own little world that Contador is this weak-minded athlete that faced with adversity would simply crumble and quit.

I've already clarified my claim, but here it is again, especially for you, since Flo, to whom it was originally appointed, doesn't respond, but waits for someone's else reply in order to avoid discussion and redirect it.
Contador is more mentally fragile than Schleck.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

I've already clarified my claim, but here it is again, especially for you, since Flo, to whom it was originally appointed, doesn't respond, but waits for someone's else reply in order to avoid discussion and redirect it.
Contador is more mentally fragile than Schleck.

Why can't we all just get along an cheer for Nibali shall we? No more bickering hm?

 

[SKSemtex]

I am quite disappointed by Velits (87) and even Kreuziger here (50). I expected min top 20.

 

[serfla]

I don't see him as having coping issues. If in fact he is no longer the best (stage racer) and the events of this early season are an indication of that how does that translate for you into him having coping issues? He's continued to compete and battle with his adversaries in the races that he's ridden. He's not riding in with the broomwagon and autobus as if on a training ride.

I see you've find the clarification.
Next time, please first read everything, and then make a comment.
He's finding excuses, complaining about choice of races that management is making and finishing lower and lower, we haven't seen it before from him.
That's how I translate it in having coping issues.

 

[Angliru]

I've already clarified my claim, but here it is again, especially for you, since Flo, to whom it was originally appointed, doesn't respond, but waits for someone's else reply in order to avoid discussion and redirect it.
Contador is more mentally fragile than Schleck.

Okay as an example of your own mental fortitude how would you, if faced with similar circumstances as Contador, deal with the challenge that he faces?
I'm curious to see what exactly that Contador has done in the past few months that is such a blinding example of his mental fragility.

 

[serfla]

Why can't we all just get along an cheer for Nibali shall we? No more bickering hm?

I can't like him after the comment about usage of power meters.
It sounded really like a cheap excuse of a helpless rider, and even more senseless and pathetic after following stages.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

I can't like him after the comment about usage of power meters.
It sounded really like a cheap excuse of a helpless rider, and even more senseless and pathetic after following stages.

Wihich riders do you like agin?

 

[LaFlorecita]

I've already clarified my claim, but here it is again, especially for you, since Flo, to whom it was originally appointed, doesn't respond, but waits for someone's else reply in order to avoid discussion and redirect it.
Contador is more mentally fragile than Schleck.

This is why I didn't reply to you. You're a troll. At least give us some evidence.

 

[serfla]

Wihich riders do you like agin?

Schleck.
The "whiner" is just an etiquette labeled to him, substantiated with tendentious interpretations of circumstances.
Those who labeled him the etiquette, now have the opportunity to see to whom it's appropriate.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Schleck.
The "whiner" is just an etiquette labeled to him, substantiated with tendentious interpretations of circumstances.
Those who labeled him the etiquette, now have the opportunity to see to whom it's appropriate.

Yes, "I am angry in my belly"

 

[Angliru]

I see you've find the clarification.
Next time, please first read everything, and then make a comment.
He's finding excuses, complaining about choice of races that management is making and finishing lower and lower, we haven't seen it before from him.
That's how I translate it in having coping issues.

I hadn't heard of any of complaints of management decisions in terms of his races. I've heard him trying to answer questions regarding why he is feeling fatigued and grasping for answers/explanations. You see them as excuses. I see them as a riding trying to reason as to why it is he's struggling. If asked questions pertaining to one's results results or lack thereof compared to their past years if a reason isn't readily evident one would try to analyze the situation. He seems just as baffled as anyone else thus the "excuses" as you call them. He's not just finishing behind Froome and Porte but riders that he's been superior to in the past, some far superior to. Of course I admit that I am biased but such a noticeable drop in performance isn't an example of coping issues/mental fragility but more so of something else.

 

[serfla]

This is why I didn't reply to you. You're a troll. At least give us some evidence.

The course of this spring is the evidence.
And no, you didn't avoid the reply because of that.

Everything I write, I support with arguments. Unlike you.

 

[Contadoraus Schlecks]

I've already clarified my claim, but here it is again, especially for you, since Flo, to whom it was originally appointed, doesn't respond, but waits for someone's else reply in order to avoid discussion and redirect it.
Contador is more mentally fragile than Schleck.

The guy is probably mentally the strongest in the Peleton. He had a stroke, had to deal with lance, whole clen scenario and won throughout it all. Can you clarify why you think Schleck is stronger?

 

[LaFlorecita]

The course of this spring is the evidence.
And no, you didn't avoid the reply because of that.

Everything I write, I support with arguments. Unlike you.

What? this spring is evidence that he's mentally fragile? What?

That's just YOUR interpretation he's not in shape this season for some reason or another. You can't push your interpretation down everyone's throat as the truth

 

[serfla]

I hadn't heard of any of complaints of management decisions in terms of his races. I've heard him trying to answer questions regarding why he is feeling fatigued and grasping for answers/explanations. You see them as excuses. I see them as a riding trying to reason as to why it is he's struggling. If asked questions pertaining to one's results results or lack thereof compared to their past years if a reason isn't readily evident one would try to analyze the situation. He seems just as baffled as anyone else thus the "excuses" as you call them. He's not just finishing behind Froome and Porte but riders that he's been superior to in the past, some far superior to. Of course I admit that I am biased but such a noticeable drop in performance isn't an example of coping issues/mental fragility but more so of something else.

Here is a complain.

Saxo-Tinkoff wanted me to be there and of course they are races everybody likes to do, even if when you’re building up for the Tour de France it’s perhaps better not to [race them]. But it’s only another week of racing, so I’ll try to do as well as possible.

There's even more in this sentece, but I don't want to ramble.
As for coping, I won't elaborate on that. It would take too much time and space here.
I'll just say it involves terms like self-confidence and motivation. The rest you'll have to figure out by yourself.

 

[Angliru]

Schleck.
The "whiner" is just an etiquette labeled to him, substantiated with tendentious interpretations of circumstances.
Those who labeled him the etiquette, now have the opportunity to see to whom it's appropriate.

Is Andy being labeled a "whiner" so different than your interpretation of Contador making excuses (i.e. whining) by you? What makes one right and one wrong?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

btw where was machado?

 

[serfla]

The guy is probably mentally the strongest in the Peleton. He had a stroke, had to deal with lance, whole clen scenario and won throughout it all. Can you clarify why you think Schleck is stronger?

Stroke and Lance have nothing to do with it.
The fact that he doesn't feel he's the strongest anymore does.

I won't clarify you anything.
Even plainly written comments you read one-sided.