Transfers and Rumours 2016 > 2017

[May0maniac]

Lampre have had a pretty small budget (7.5 M) for some years, running an even somewhat decent WT team on that kind of budget isn't exactly an easy task.

 

[Flamin]

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Jurgen van den Broeck to Loltto Jumbo.

http://www.teamlottojumbo.nl/cycling-news/van-den-broeck-to-join-team-lottonljumbo-on-twoyear-deal

His manager must be incredibly good to get him a 2-year contract with a WT team still.

 

[Anderis]

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His manager must be incredibly good to get him a 2-year contract with a WT team still.

I disagree. The man was top20 overall in TdF after day 10 this year. He was also solid all year, finishing inside top30 in every stage race he entered, apart from Tirreno, where he DNF-ed. These performances merit him a WT spot over something like every third guy who will also find a WT team next year. And at 33, he is not young, but not that very old yet. If he is not demanding too much money, he is a perfect option for a low-budget WT team that is looking for some climbing domestiques.

 

[Nirvana]

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I wonder what this means for the transfer market?

Shannon Bufton @bikebeijing
Big news in Beijing this morning. Chinese company TianYun rumored to have purchased the Lampre team @CyclingiQ @cyclingtips #lampre-Merida

Shannon Bufton @bikebeijing
@cyclingtips link to article - http://www.biketo.com/racing/29561.html …. Offical announcement in Beijing Aug 26. According to report team will stay in WT

Bahrein-Merida out of WT if Lampre (or what will be next season) keeps his place.

Why though? There are 17 spots and Tinkoff and IAM are leaving. Although I suppose Bora wants to step up as well.

I'd be so happy if Lampre stayed WT, but I'm worried the team will lose it's identity with a Chinese owner. The Galbusera family have been the owners of Lampre for so long

Bora is almost certain of his spot, i think it's impossible that Sagan will left out of WT.
So if Lampre (or what will be) keeps a licence for the next year and UCI have to choose between Bora and Bahrein-Merida for the last spot available it's an obvious choice.

I don't see why they have to make a choice. IAM and Tinkoff are leaving, Bora and Bahrain want to join. Two out, two in. Or am I missing something?

UCI to accomodate ASO's requests and keep his races in the WT put a limit of 17 teams for 2017 (and 16 for 2018) in the reform so if Lampre stays there is only one spot left.

 

[Flamin]

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His manager must be incredibly good to get him a 2-year contract with a WT team still.

I disagree. The man was top20 overall in TdF after day 10 this year. He was also solid all year, finishing inside top30 in every stage race he entered, apart from Tirreno, where he DNF-ed. These performances merit him a WT spot over something like every third guy who will also find a WT team next year. And at 33, he is not young, but not that very old yet. If he is not demanding too much money he is a perfect option for a low-budget WT team that is looking for some climbing domestiques.

That's the point. He's likely not going to prostitute himself either coming off the huge salary he had at Lotto. But good for him. Nobody works harder than him, so based on that, he deserves it.

 

[carolina]

portuguese website sugests katusha is interested in josé gonçalves and andré cardoso is leaving cannondale.

http://jornalciclismo.com/?p=43064

 

[Anderis]

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andré cardoso is leaving cannondale.

This is what I supposed to be true when I saw they didn't take him to Vuelta.

 

[HelloDolly]

How many people are going to Katusha ...hear Majka is on his way too

Gosh how much did they pay Purito

 

[trevim]

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portuguese website sugests katusha is interested in josé gonçalves and andré cardoso is leaving cannondale.

http://jornalciclismo.com/?p=43064

I wonder where Cardoso will end up; he should be pretty cheap and a team like Trek could use with some decent climbing domestique for Mollema and Contador next year, otherwise they'll be left with Zubeldia and Stetina. He has a very decent CV with great rides in the Giro but also in the Vuelta.

I wonder why he's leaving Cannondale, maybe he wanted to ride the Tour and was just tired of seeing over-hyped american riders getting the spot ahead of him.

By the way, I love how Cannondale prefers one-off riders like Moser, Villela, Formolo, King, Craddock, Gaimon, Howes or Brown than a solid all-year round domestique like Andre Cardoso who has done great work in the past for guys like Hesjedal for instance.

 

[Anderis]

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By the way, I love how Cannondale prefers one-off riders like Moser, Villela, Formolo, King, Craddock, Gaimon, Howes or Brown than a solid all-year round domestique like Andre Cardoso

How do you conclude that?

 

[TMP402]

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portuguese website sugests katusha is interested in josé gonçalves and andré cardoso is leaving cannondale.

http://jornalciclismo.com/?p=43064

I wonder where Cardoso will end up; he should be pretty cheap and a team like Trek could use with some decent climbing domestique for Mollema and Cardoso next year, otherwise they'll be left with Zubeldia and Stetina. He has a very decent CV with great rides in the Giro but also in the Vuelta.

I wonder why he's leaving Cannondale, maybe he wanted to ride the Tour and was just tired of seeing over-hyped american riders getting the spot ahead of him.

By the way, I love how Cannondale prefers one-off riders like Moser, Villela, Formolo, King, Craddock, Gaimon, Howes or Brown than a solid all-year round domestique like Andre Cardoso who has done great work in the past for guys like Hesjedal for instance.

Shots fired.

 

[trevim]

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By the way, I love how Cannondale prefers one-off riders like Moser, Villela, Formolo, King, Craddock, Gaimon, Howes or Brown than a solid all-year round domestique like Andre Cardoso

How do you conclude that?

Just my opinion based on media hype, etc

 

[HelloDolly]

Trek would do well to sign Lachlan Morton

 

[jens_attacks]

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His manager must be incredibly good to get him a 2-year contract with a WT team still.

I disagree. The man was top20 overall in TdF after day 10 this year. He was also solid all year, finishing inside top30 in every stage race he entered, apart from Tirreno, where he DNF-ed. These performances merit him a WT spot over something like every third guy who will also find a WT team next year. And at 33, he is not young, but not that very old yet. If he is not demanding too much money, he is a perfect option for a low-budget WT team that is looking for some climbing domestiques.

I never read something more ridiculous. All those top 30s yeah what a legend
Joni brandao is 100x the rider jurgen is at the moment...2 years? Good luck with that
Oh wait he signed with rabo ahqhahaha . I had no idea
It makes sense then.

 

[StryderHells]

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How many people are going to Katusha ...hear Majka is on his way too

Gosh how much did they pay Purito

Well Katusha only had 8 riders from this years squad under contract for 2017 so they have plenty of room to sign new riders, also they've always had a pretty healthy budget.

 

[Anderis]

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His manager must be incredibly good to get him a 2-year contract with a WT team still.

I disagree. The man was top20 overall in TdF after day 10 this year. He was also solid all year, finishing inside top30 in every stage race he entered, apart from Tirreno, where he DNF-ed. These performances merit him a WT spot over something like every third guy who will also find a WT team next year. And at 33, he is not young, but not that very old yet. If he is not demanding too much money, he is a perfect option for a low-budget WT team that is looking for some climbing domestiques.

I never read something more ridiculous. All those top 30s yeah what a legend8
Joni brandao is 100x the rider jurgen is at the moment...2 years? Good luck with that
Oh wait he signed with rabo ahqhahaha . I had no idea
It makes sense then.

You have to had seen very little in your life if you consider it the most ridiculous thing you've seen.

They've not hired him to be a legend, but to be a domestique. They've made it clear.

There are maybe 150 guys in the world who can finish WT events in top30 on a regular basis, so with something like 500 WT spots for riders, it's ridiculous to suggest a rider with these results doesn't have a place in WT. Top30 means little in itself, but in context, it means you're capable of hanging onto the main group in mountains for much longer than average pro rider, which makes you potentially more useful domestique than most. And Van den Broeck is a decent TT-ist in addition.

There are and were guys like Marangoni, Ted King, late Popovych, Agnoli, Irizar, Armee, Zandio and dozens of others whose level was never close Van den Broek's level in 2016 and they have/had been hanging onto the WT teams for years.

 

[Ricco']

Mads Würtz to Katusha is confirmed.

 

[Thepirateisgood]

Good signing for Katusha, keep signing those u23 champs. Bystrom must be one of the best domestiques around, ready for some chances for himself soon. With Würth, Martin signings- are they aiming for a TTT win?

 

[scurrrr]

they should sign brändle aswell

 

[BalearicBeats]

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they should sign brändle aswell

And Coppel, of who I am still amazed that he will retire

 

[ciranda]

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His manager must be incredibly good to get him a 2-year contract with a WT team still.

I disagree. The man was top20 overall in TdF after day 10 this year. He was also solid all year, finishing inside top30 in every stage race he entered, apart from Tirreno, where he DNF-ed. These performances merit him a WT spot over something like every third guy who will also find a WT team next year. And at 33, he is not young, but not that very old yet. If he is not demanding too much money, he is a perfect option for a low-budget WT team that is looking for some climbing domestiques.

I never read something more ridiculous. All those top 30s yeah what a legend8
Joni brandao is 100x the rider jurgen is at the moment...2 years? Good luck with that
Oh wait he signed with rabo ahqhahaha . I had no idea
It makes sense then.

You have to had seen very little in your life if you consider it the most ridiculous thing you've seen.

They've not hired him to be a legend, but to be a domestique. They've made it clear.

There are maybe 150 guys in the world who can finish WT events in top30 on a regular basis, so with something like 500 WT spots for riders, it's ridiculous to suggest a rider with these results doesn't have a place in WT. Top30 means little in itself, but in context, it means you're capable of hanging onto the main group in mountains for much longer than average pro rider, which makes you potentially more useful domestique than most. And Van den Broeck is a decent TT-ist in addition.

There are and were guys like Marangoni, Ted King, late Popovych, Agnoli, Irizar, Armee, Zandio and dozens of others whose level was never close Van den Broek's level in 2016 and they have/had been hanging onto the WT teams for years.

Nah, there are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of cyclists around on smaller teams who can potentially do great things but never get the chance. There are even lesser room now with the growing amount of teams that seem to almost always prefer riders from anglosaxon countries.

 

[LuckyLoek]

Steven Lammertink also moving to Katusha according to Dutch media.

Edit: Maurits Lammertink

 

[Thepirateisgood]

Welcome to the forum!

 

[CraZyCaLL]

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Steven Lammertink also moving to Katusha according to Dutch media.

Maurits, not Steven. Baptiste Planckaert signed 2 year deal with Katusha too, as far as i know

 

[Thepirateisgood]

Makes more sense, what is Katusha now - the new Giant/Skil? Alpecin connection in 3-2-