Transfers and Rumours 2017 > 2018

[TMP402]

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Wait, Phinney? He hasn't done anything this entire year and all his results are pre-crash. That is why he signed with Cannondale after all, it's not the team you go to when you have options. More of a candidate for the latter two camps.

I agree on merit, I just think his relatively high profile will work in his favour here.

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

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Time for SVM and Langeveld to go to Quick-Step or Lotto-Soudal.

I think Mr Brailsford might make a few calls, with Rowe's injury both would make good replacements and additions to Sky's classics team, plus they have prior interest in both Langeveld and Talanksky.

SVM to Sky would cool my hatred towards Sky a bit, I guess...Nevertheless If I were Sep and QS offered me a good deal, I would take it.

 

[GuyIncognito]

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All right, here we go. Which of Cannondale's roster will definitely get a WT contract, which deserve a WT contract, and which riders can you not see getting a WT contract? I would divide them as follows:

Already confirmed with a new WT team anyway:
Alberto Bettiol (ITA) (age 23)
Davide Formolo (ITA) (age 24)
Kristijan Koren (SLO) (age 30)
Tom-Jelte Slagter (NED) (age 28)
Davide Villella (ITA) (age 26)

WILL get a contract:
Sebastian Langeveld (NED) (age 32)
Taylor Phinney (USA) (age 27)
Andrew Talansky (USA) (age 28)
Dylan van Baarle (NED) (age 24)
Sep van Marcke (BEL) (age 29)
Rigoberto Urán (COL) (age 30)
Michael Woods (CAN) (age 30)

DESERVE a contract (though may nevertheless struggle to get one):
Patrick Bevin (NZL) (age 26)
Hugh Carthy (GBR) (age 23)
Simon Clarke (AUS) (age 31)
Lawson Craddock (USA) (age 25)
Joe Dombrowski (USA) (age 26)
Pierre Rolland (FRA) (age 30)

Could well struggle to get a WT contract:
Nathan Brown (USA) (age 26)
Brendan Canty (AUS) (age 25)
Will Clarke (AUS) (age 32)
Alex Howes (USA) (age 29)
Ryan Mullen (IRL) (age 23)
Tom Scully (NZL) (age 27)
Toms Skujiņš (LAT) (age 26)
Tom van Asbroeck (BEL) (age 27)
Wouter Wippert (NED) (age 27)

Craddock and Dombrowski haven't done anything in a while, might struggle for a contract

Brown and Howes show strong work as domestiques constantly, other teams will have noticed them, they'll be fine.

Mullen and Skujins I'll be amazed if they don't get contracts.

Rolland will easily get one on reputation

 

[staubsauger]

Rolland should easily get a contract at either Cofidis, Vital Concept or Direct Energie. Although it seems that nowadays he prefers to target the Giro which apparently favors him more. In that case: it's AG2R for stage hunting together with Geniez!

Dombrowski normally should get a new contract as a helper. Both BMC and Trek certainly have worse riders on their team. BMC would be a good fit IMHO. He should step up there a little bit.

Uran talks with Astana. Probably ends up at Trek nevertheless!

 

[capuldemetal]

Aru to UAE!

 

[Gigs_98]

Will sunweb maybe try to sign a few of the cannondale riders? Right now they have only one single good climbing domestque for dumoulin and if they are serious about winning the tour that surely can't stay that way

 

[staubsauger]

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Aru to UAE!

Career over!

 

[MatParker117]

https://www.teamsky.com/article/young-colombian-talent-egan-bernal-signs-for-team-sky

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Aru to UAE!

Nice move

 

[Viktormyglegaard]

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Aru to UAE!

Source?

 

[Der Effe]

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What happened ?? They were fine no? Did someone pull out?

For a whole team to appear on the transfer market AFTER most of the other teams have allocated their budged would be interesting.

Apparently a sponsor they had already budgeted with, it already being August, didn't sign on.

"Interesting" in that it's likely to make a lot of their riders reevaluate their priorities in life, riding at the WT minimum wage is just honestly not a prudent financial decision for anyone, ever.

Ah thanks.

WT minimum wage doing what you love for a living is totally great tbh. It's actually pretty reasonable wage, 36,300 euros. Maybe at a lower level then yea that's an issue but 36k I think is very respectable. Ofc nothing compared to other sports.

Calling earning 36k a year while not being able to work on your future totally great made me almost vomit. Thanks for that.

 

[deValtos]

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Calling earning 36k a year while not being able to work on your future totally great made me almost vomit. Thanks for that.

I'm sorry that earning more than 99% of the worlds population and doing a job you love makes you vomit. I don't even know what to say to that lol. Maybe get some perspective?

 

[Brullnux]

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Calling earning 36k a year while not being able to work on your future totally great made me almost vomit. Thanks for that.

I'm sorry that earning more than 99% of the worlds population and doing a job you love makes you vomit. I don't even know what to say to that lol. Maybe get some perspective?

It massively depends on where you are from. Pre tax, it's a fairly average wage in western Europe. For a German or Belgian it's actually below average, and for a Dane or Norwegian it's really low. Considering most riders live in Europe, and the less well off riders do not live in tax havens (and even if you do, for a rider earning 36k it really isn't worth it re the inevitable rise in cost of living), it doesn't make for extravagant living by any stretch. You aren't dying of hunger but I imagine those with other qualifications will quit cycling and do something else (Pozzovivo springs to mind).

 

[capuldemetal]

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Aru to UAE!

Source?

veloclub net

 

[Valv.Piti]

I love when a team pulls the plugs and other teams are scrambling to pick the best ones up, altho it obviously sucks for those riders who will need to move down to Pro Conti and its way too late to be responsible. Don't we also need another team to replace Cannondale in the WT?

I think Sep could be great for QS if they have the funds, he will fit perfectly in their classics squad. Urán is intriguing and so is a lot of other riders, but those are obviously the two biggest fish.

 

[TMP402]

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I love when a team pulls the plugs and other teams are scrambling to pick the best ones up, altho it obviously sucks for those riders who will need to move down to Pro Conti and its way too late to be responsible. Don't we also need another team to replace Cannondale in the WT?

I think Sep could be great for QS if they have the funds, he will fit perfectly in their classics squad. Urán is intriguing and so is a lot of other riders, but those are obviously the two biggest fish.

Dylan van Baarle is also a good classics contender and if the world is working properly, he should go to Quick Step or Lotto.

 

[Ikbengodniet]

Dylan van baarle should go to Sunweb and lead their cobbled classics squad with help from kragh andersen, teunissen and matthews in some races.

 

[May0maniac]

Julen Amezqueta and Cristian Rodríguez to Caja Rural.
Source: http://www.tuttobiciweb.it/2017/08/27/104340/amezqueta-e-rodriguez-wilier-caja-rural-tuttobiciweb
They should probably also try sign Dani Martinez, the guy pretty much wasted his time at Wilier, he was at the same level when he finished 8th in the Tour of Utah at the age of 19 two years ago and tbh Wilier isn't exactly a great team.

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

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I love when a team pulls the plugs and other teams are scrambling to pick the best ones up, altho it obviously sucks for those riders who will need to move down to Pro Conti and its way too late to be responsible. Don't we also need another team to replace Cannondale in the WT?

I think Sep could be great for QS if they have the funds, he will fit perfectly in their classics squad. Urán is intriguing and so is a lot of other riders, but those are obviously the two biggest fish.

Dylan van Baarle is also a good classics contender and if the world is working properly, he should go to Quick Step or Lotto.

It says a lot about your team btw if your two big fish are a guy specialized in podiuming a GT and a guy specialized in podiuming Cobbled Classics.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Clarke has plenty of experience in Italy and may find a home at one of their Pro Conti teams. Could be a great boon for Movistar in that the Anacona rumour disappears and it puts some riders onto the market that would help shore up their depleted rouleur corps given that securing Landa's services alongside the existing squad will have set them back quite a bit of their budget, although I don't see any of those riders who are natural fits. With his previous successes in Spain Clarke would seem the most logical but he's also the type of rider they already have several of. Rolland has also had success in Spain but I see him as still too valuable to the French WT/PCT teams for Movistar to be a likely destination especially given that, again, he's not the type of rider they need to get in, having already strengthened in that department with the signing of Rosón and with plenty of climbing hands on, er, hand already. Woods' market value will have increased markedly with the Vuelta. Langeveld will likely get similar but more appealing options from Low Countries PCT teams at least, Skujins is probably the best shout for somebody who would suit Abarcá if Cannondale were to go under but I'm not sure if he'd want to relocate.

The other option is that Vaughters finds another team to absorb... sorry, "merge" with, where Vaughters takes on all of the managerial responsibilities and the other team is subsumed until little of its identity remains and somehow the whole remains less than the sum of its parts.

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

Van Asbroeck will either end up at Wanty or Lotto I reckon, and perhaps Mullen to trek? Seeing that Brändle is not really making any progession.

 

[jens_attacks]

will dombrowski find something after this?
probably retirement i guess or jelly belly.

 

[WheelofGear]

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Calling earning 36k a year while not being able to work on your future totally great made me almost vomit. Thanks for that.

I'm sorry that earning more than 99% of the worlds population and doing a job you love makes you vomit. I don't even know what to say to that lol. Maybe get some perspective?

It massively depends on where you are from. Pre tax, it's a fairly average wage in western Europe. For a German or Belgian it's actually below average, and for a Dane or Norwegian it's really low. Considering most riders live in Europe, and the less well off riders do not live in tax havens (and even if you do, for a rider earning 36k it really isn't worth it re the inevitable rise in cost of living), it doesn't make for extravagant living by any stretch. You aren't dying of hunger but I imagine those with other qualifications will quit cycling and do something else (Pozzovivo springs to mind).

I think it's a bit more complex than that. A cyclist's lifestyle tend to be pretty "nomadic". The fact that they get free food (mostly gourmet food for dinner), lodging and team-funded luxury equipment for their main hobby needs to be taken into consideration. That's at least the half of a normal person's budget.

The financial imbalance between the teams makes it hard to estimate how well off the average cyclist is.

 

[Alexandre B.]

https://twitter.com/PavelSivakov/status/902088157855965184
Pavel Sivakov joins Team Sky.

 

[portugal11]

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https://twitter.com/PavelSivakov/status/902088157855965184
Pavel Sivakov joins Team Sky.

These kids are ruining their future.