Transfers and Rumours 2018 > 2019

[Nirvana]

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Considering that the former Wilier usually rides a lot in China (and similar low level races) to rack up wins Quintana Jr. could find his confort zone and win more, probably he could also be leader in some european races since the team is essentially continental level plus Visconti.

I wonder what Visconti could do in a team where he'll finally be the undisputed leader, probably is too late (will be 36 next january) to grab his coveted top ten at the Giro but the level he showed this year in Austria could be enough to win something in races where the field is not at very high level or from breaks.

 

[Der Effe]

Sergei Chernetskiy from Astana to Caja Rural. Very good move from Caja if you ask me, didn’t see that one coming.

 

[roundabout]

For me he was the team leader back in his ISD/Farnese Vini days.

Most China races they do are Mareczko territory, but maybe they know more than I do and Qinghai Lake and Hainan will continue having MTFs next year.

 

[Nirvana]

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For me he was the team leader back in his ISD/Farnese Vini days.

Most China races they do are Mareczko territory, but maybe they know more than I do and Qinghai Lake and Hainan will continue having MTFs next year.

Back then yes, but he passed the last five years complaining with Movistar and Bahrain, after the 2016 Giro he cried for a couple of weeks on Twitter and releasing interviews, after this year Giro was reported in local press that he totally broke with the team during the race because he didn't want to help his team mates.

 

[Anderis]

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Sergei Chernetskiy from Astana to Caja Rural. Very good move from Caja if you ask me, didn’t see that one coming.

Strange for Chernetski to drop to pro-conti after such a solid season.

 

[slosada]

Hernando Bohórquez from Manzana to Astana

 

[May0maniac]

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Sergei Chernetskiy from Astana to Caja Rural. Very good move from Caja if you ask me, didn’t see that one coming.

Strange for Chernetski to drop to pro-conti after such a solid season.

It's not the most unusual thing at Astana, Rain said that they weren't that interrested in resigning him after winning Burgos and the Arctic Race.
The guy can climb and has a pretty good sprint, fast enough to be guys like Ala in a flat sprint and able to finish top 10 in a really hard TdS, he could do really well on a classic CR calender with many Spanish races and stagehunting at the Vuelta could also be an option, he'll get many chances to ride for himself.

 

[Escarabajo]

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With Dayer Quintana leaving Movistar, wonder how this plays with the questions on whether Nairo stays or leaves after his contract is up next year?

I think that Dayer has been lucky to have stayed as long as he has at Movistar. I was a little surprised that he was given a contract for this last year to be honest. A favour, if that what it was, can only go on if someone is performing at a decent level and I am sure that Nairo is sensible enough to realise that his brother hasn't really justified being given a place for next year. It may be that Dayer will be better suited to a smaller team without his brother.
I'm not sure that you can read too much into the whether Nairo stays or goes question at this stage. I expect that will depend more on exactly how 2019 goes for him and how the team have or have not supported him.

Sometimes I think these favors are just silly. Dayer would be better off riding without his brother in a smaller team and having more race days exposure. These favors don't help anyone. Maybe the first year but that's it.

 

[IndianCyclist]

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Sometimes I think these favors are just silly. Dayer would be better off riding without his brother in a smaller team and having more race days exposure. These favors don't help anyone. Maybe the first year but that's it.

The psychological effects of having family right beside u outweighs the cost for top class riders especially when home is very far away. Consider that Sagan, Costa have their brothers with them most of the times.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Also for teams, if you're going to invest in a real big name rider, you want them to feel comfortable and happy with your team, and letting them bring a friend or family member with them is often a way that that happens, especially if they're from somewhere far from the team so are likely to be living away. Prudencio Indurain with Mig, Juraj Sagan with Peter, Noval and Jesús Hernández with Contador, Dayer Quintana with Nairo, and so on. I'm only meaning those where there's a huge difference in level between the siblings/friends, rather than examples like the Izagirres, the Yates, the Herradas or the Janse van Rensburgs.

 

[RedheadDane]

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Also for teams, if you're going to invest in a real big name rider, you want them to feel comfortable and happy with your team, and letting them bring a friend or family member with them is often a way that that happens, especially if they're from somewhere far from the team so are likely to be living away. Prudencio Indurain with Mig, Juraj Sagan with Peter, Noval and Jesús Hernández with Contador, Dayer Quintana with Nairo, and so on. I'm only meaning those where there's a huge difference in level between the siblings/friends, rather than examples like the Izagirres, the Yates, the Herradas or the Janse van Rensburgs.

One of these pairs is not like the others.

 

[Anderis]

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I'm only meaning those where there's a huge difference in level between the siblings/friends, rather than examples like the Izagirres, the Yates, the Herradas or the Janse van Rensburgs.

Are Janse van Rensburgs even related at all? I think I've heard that they're not.

 

[Fus087]

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I'm only meaning those where there's a huge difference in level between the siblings/friends, rather than examples like the Izagirres, the Yates, the Herradas or the Janse van Rensburgs.

Are Janse van Rensburgs even related at all? I think I've heard that they're not.

The name comes from some Dutch/Huguenot family that immigrated to the Cape in the 1600s (?), so they will be very, very, very distantly related.
But they are not related in the sense that they invite each other to family gatherings.

 

[Squire]

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Hernando Bohórquez from Manzana to Astana

This fits perfectly with the discussion taking place in this thread.

 

[GuyIncognito]

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I'm only meaning those where there's a huge difference in level between the siblings/friends, rather than examples like the Izagirres, the Yates, the Herradas or the Janse van Rensburgs.

Are Janse van Rensburgs even related at all? I think I've heard that they're not.

Correct, they're not family

 

[tobydawq]

LS with her second mistake in a fortnight. The world must be coming to an end.

 

[RedheadDane]

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LS with her second mistake in a fortnight. The world must be coming to an end.

Honestly, I was wondering if it might have been tongue-in-cheek; listing the two of them because people quite frequently think they're related.

 

[tobydawq]

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LS with her second mistake in a fortnight. The world must be coming to an end.

Honestly, I was wondering if it might have been tongue-in-cheek; listing the two of them because people quite frequently think they're related.

Perhaps true. She also says siblings/friends so there might be hope left.

 

[Jancouver]

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I'm only meaning those where there's a huge difference in level between the siblings/friends, rather than examples like the Izagirres, the Yates, the Herradas or the Janse van Rensburgs.

Are Janse van Rensburgs even related at all? I think I've heard that they're not.

Correct, they're not family

T.I.L

 

[Alex47]

Riccardo Minali will ride with ICA in 2019.

Grivko will not ride for Astana in 2019.

Astana will have 30 riders.

 

[MADRAZO]

Riccardo Minali will ride with ICA in 2019.

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Great chance for Minali and pick from ICA. Minali though not a top-top-sprinter is still fairly fast, but havent really gotten much help from Astana to fulfill his potential, and ICA has always had way too many mediocre sprinters while none of them have ever been fast enough to be able to win anything. Now they can finally have a clear number 1 sprinter in Minali that will also have come quite cheap compared to his speed, and that may have a chance to do well now, and also give some purpose for all the mediocre sprinters already in the team that are now getting someone to lead out.

 

[May0maniac]

Riccardo Minali will ride with ICA in 2019.

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Great chance for Minali and pick from ICA. Minali though not a top-top-sprinter is still fairly fast, but havent really gotten much help from Astana to fulfill his potential, and ICA has always had way too many mediocre sprinters while none of them have ever been fast enough to be able to win anything. Now they can finally have a clear number 1 sprinter in Minali that will also have come quite cheap compared to his speed, and that may have a chance to do well now, and also give some purpose for all the mediocre sprinters already in the team that are now getting someone to lead out.

Yes, but they are signing every decent sprinter that they can get, with Minali they'd have something like 8 sprinters on that team and most of them weren't signed as leadout guys, I don't think that's the best way to built a sprint train.
That said, Cimolai and Minali on the same team could work, if they use Cimolai as a leadout man on flat stages in a gt and as the sprinter in harder one day races or on the stages that are too hard for Minali.

 

[MADRAZO]

Riccardo Minali will ride with ICA in 2019.

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Great chance for Minali and pick from ICA. Minali though not a top-top-sprinter is still fairly fast, but havent really gotten much help from Astana to fulfill his potential, and ICA has always had way too many mediocre sprinters while none of them have ever been fast enough to be able to win anything. Now they can finally have a clear number 1 sprinter in Minali that will also have come quite cheap compared to his speed, and that may have a chance to do well now, and also give some purpose for all the mediocre sprinters already in the team that are now getting someone to lead out.

Yes, but they are signing every decent sprinter that they can get, with Minali they'd have something like 8 sprinters on that team and most of them weren't signed as leadout guys, I don't think that's the best way to built a sprint train.
That said, Cimolai and Minali on the same team could work, if they use Cimolai as a leadout man on flat stages in a gt and as the sprinter in harder one day races or on the stages that are too hard for Minali.

For sure their tactic of signing soo many mediocre sprinters has made no sence at all, but at least now some of them will get something to do helping Minali even if it was not the original plan with them, and it just seems like most were cheap available signings. Cimolai being the most experienced for leadouts mght be the best pick as leadoutman indeed and he could also get his own chances in harder races like you say, if he finds his topform (like in the European Championships). Van Asbroeck has some similar skills and experience with Modolo too and in the Tour Of Denmark Enger, Sbaragli and A. Jensen actually did some very good trains for Räim also, who was just too slow to use it for much. Avila would have some potential also in leadouts if he should ever ride european races, and then with Boivin and Dempster also in the team, there should certainly be plenty of riders to create a strong train. I assume Barbier will be the teams number 2 sprinter while Räim will perhaps get some chances himself also so that all the rest can get some leadoutduties.

 

[Der Effe]

That still leaves them with Sbaragli and Enger, who are also sprinters. I hope they get invited for the Tour de France and select Minali, Boivin, Enger, Sbaragli, Van Asbroeck, Dempster, Avila, Raim and Cimolai. That is one too many, but I am sure ASO will let ICA have 9 riders.

 

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is there a source for the Minali transfer?

Let's hope they'll sign Pelucchi as well