Twitter war against Vaughters

[Ferminal]

Why are people saying this is political. Trying to maximise points for his own team in the rankings for next year is a sporting goal.

Their ninth man is hardly going to be raking in the points (call me out on this if it does happen!). Is that person who may get half a dozen points better for the team than Thor riding and potentially winning/contesting stages?

 

[BM1979]

Their ninth man is hardly going to be raking in the points (call me out on this if it does happen!). Is that person who may get half a dozen points better for the team than Thor riding and potentially winning/contesting stages?

If I was a sponsor I would want my biggest attraction at the race

 

[Damiano Machiavelli]

Let us face facts here. Hushovd is a turncoat and a traitor. He signed with BMC in March. That is before the spring classics. Then he had the gall to complain that the team was not supporting him like he thought they should. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that his team might be less than enthused to support him when they find out that he did not even bother to wait to see how things worked out with Garmin before deciding to leave. He was just passing through. He gave his team and its riders a giant middle finger and got the expected response.

 

[craig1985]

i find it a little disrespectful from the riders. It might not be a great decision, but what the hell does matt goss have to do with Garmin. He and everyone else need to shut the f**k up.

I understand there is more to it, and the crappy UCI system is essentially to blame, however these guys have no right to judge or question JV's decision regarding his own team.

childish for those involved.

+1, if JV or any Garmin riders critised HTC's rider selection policy or that they make every rider do lead out for Cav, even when they lead the race, they would told to GAGF, really can't understand why Goss or Baden Cooke would get involved.

If Bobridge, the Meyer bro's, or Hushovd have an issue then they should speak to JV about it.

 

[muscat]

i find it a little disrespectful from the riders. It might not be a great decision, but what the hell does matt goss have to do with Garmin. He and everyone else need to shut the f**k up.

I understand there is more to it, and the crappy UCI system is essentially to blame, however these guys have no right to judge or question JV's decision regarding his own team.

childish for those involved.

The fact that riders from other teams have spoken out shows that there are some people in the sport who have the moral courage to stand up for what in any other working environment would be termed victimisation, or bullying or discrimination. If the WC is treated like this, how do some managers treat riders lower down the rankings. They have everyright to question the unethical (to use one of JVs favourite words)treatment of fellow professionals.

The Australian riders in Garmin have all been sidelined all season because they might be tempted to join Greenedge. They have valid contracts with garmin until Dec and he is preventing them honouring the contract. He showed no respect to Thor as the reigning world champion all year. As a result he has chosen to leave Garmin.

On twitter Vaughters is hiding behind the points system but it has nothing to do with it. Look at the facts. Both Tyler and JVanS have more points. Garmin have plenty of points to maintain their pro tour licence without his points. With the current point systems the Managers should be bending over backwards to keep their best riders to keep their points not mis treating them, stopping them riding and complaining they don't want to stay. Blaming the points system is a pathetic excuse and a smokescreen.

 

[hrotha]

The fact that riders from other teams have spoken out shows that there are some people in the sport who have the moral courage to stand up for what in any other working environment would be termed victimisation, or bullying or discrimination. If the WC is treated like this, how do some managers treat riders lower down the rankings. They have everyright to question the unethical (to use one of JVs favourite words)treatment of fellow professionals.

The Australian riders in Garmin have all been sidelined all season because they might be tempted to join Greenedge. They have valid contracts with garmin until Dec and he is preventing them honouring the contract. He showed no respect to Thor as the reigning world champion all year. As a result he has chosen to leave Garmin.

On twitter Vaughters is hiding behind the points system but it has nothing to do with it. Look at the facts. Both Tyler and JVanS have more points. Garmin have plenty of points to maintain their pro tour licence without his points. With the current point systems the Managers should be bending over backwards to keep their best riders to keep their points not mis treating them, stopping them riding and complaining they don't want to stay. Blaming the points system is a pathetic excuse and a smokescreen.

Unless what's being reported about Hushovd signing with BMC in March turns out to be true, of course. And, as I said, Cameron Meyer at least has had a perfectly normal racing program.

Personally I dislike this whole sidelining business. I think it's unethical. But other than Hushovd, I don't see who else's got that treatment - and again, if he truly signed to BMC in March, I'd say it's thoroughly deserved.

 

[Race Radio]

This is hardly a war.

JV has given an understandable reasons for his position, the rest have given emotion.

 

[bicycle_rack]

Now Lance retweeting Stuey, this is getting off the hook.

 

[mewmewmew13]

This is hardly a war.

JV has given clean an understandable reasons for his position, the rest have given emotion.

I would have to agree.
Like him or not, JV is a businessman with a team to run. He is the boss and makes decisions that are sometimes unpopular...anyone who has ever been in charge will have to go with what works for them and the good of all and not worry about pleasing everybody.

 

[Damiano Machiavelli]

Now Lance retweeting Stuey, this is getting off the hook.

There went Stuey's credibility.

 

[jobiwan]

Goss, O'Grady, Cooke, LANCE , and the rest need to worry about themselves. I imagine they'll all be at Greenedge next year (except Lance of course ), so they can worry about riding the Vuelta then.

And if Thor really did sign for BMC in March, then Vaughters is justified even more. Makes me glad that JvS won Roubaix, and not Thor.

 

[Parrulo]

if i was JV and knew thor had signed for BMC in march( thats mother freaking march for god's sake) i would have him benched for the entire season and not a single **** would have been given.

its vaughters team his money/sponsors he does w/e he wants and thats no1 else's business, its only btw JV and his sponsor and if the sponsor is happy its all good. i honestly don't even know why he bothers to talk with those guys.

to be respected you have to earn it, signing for another team before you have even reached your main season goals is pathetic.

hell if i was JV next year i would make it impossible for hushovd to get on those breaks he likes to get into so he can win a tour stage.

 

[Escarabajo]

it's vaughters' team. End of story.

garmin is vaughters's team. He gets the money in, he pays the money out. He's the boss. If he decides that hushovd shouldn't be in the vuelta team, then that's that. If anyone wants to tell him how to run his team, then invest some money.

+1.

Stewart O'grady and Baden Cooke are being Immature about this. What truth they want? Everybody knows why he did it so who cares.

 

[auscyclefan94]

I am interested in where this march deal came from. I know Benson tweeted it but what was his source or how did he know this?

 

[kanari]

This Benson tweet about Thor signing in March is 100% BS and Benson knows it. He should put out some evidence soon, or he will lose the rest of the little credibility he has. What a ****...

 

[Damiano Machiavelli]

It would not surprise me if the Meyers had an agreement if not an actual contract to join Green Edge. Last year Green Edge and their supporters said they did not have to abide by the Aug. 1 date because they were not yet a registered team.

 

[PCutter]

I guess Goss isn't signing to Garvelo then?

All this means is that in future riders won't announce there intentions till after the Vuelta (assuming they're keen for the worlds).

But in general, JV's a tool.

 

[auscyclefan94]

What annoyed me about JV not putting Thor in the team was that if he annnounced he was off to BMC after la vuelta he'd be in the team imo.

 

[Damiano Machiavelli]

What annoyed me about JV not putting Thor in the team was that if he annnounced he was off to BMC after la vuelta he'd be in the team imo.

That might fool you. Others who are a little brighter might get a clue that a rider is leaving when there are no contract negotiations to renew the rider's contract.

 

[BM1979]

That might fool you. Others who are a little brighter might get a clue that a rider is leaving when there are no contract negotiations to renew the rider's contract.

Is there a day where _________________ ,you cant have a reply without a personal attack _________________________

 

[Ragerod]

Is there a source for this rumour about Thor signing in March or has it simply been around the block so many times it's started to become true?

Did Thor actually sign a contract with Garmin or was it simply transferred between teams?

If he did make a gentleman's agreement in March with BMC then what the hell happened between Thor and Vaughters in the first 3 months of the year?

 

[Siriuscat]

JV's business - his decision, fine question away but in the end it's his decision

 

[BenbeN]

Remember there is the lingering Trent Lowe/Matt White incident from earlier in the year.

Funny though, Stu would have been beside Hausler in the same pub last night as they are staying together ahead of the Olympic test event with Goss (Matthews, Rogers, Howard).

Maybe having a go with that in mind too?

 

[lanternrouge]

What annoyed me about JV not putting Thor in the team was that if he annnounced he was off to BMC after la vuelta he'd be in the team imo.

Is it not also a fact that you would not give a flying **** if it was not your beloved BMC that THor was riding for next season? Also that the only reason you love BMC is because your little idol rides for them?
How date JV (whom I agree is a tool) be concerned with his own team and riders who are commited to the cause for next year and not jumping ship after whinging all year! Wind your neck in.

 

[Michielveedeebee]

And maybe, just maybe, it was Thor's own decision not to race. He might be tired (he had to go way deeper this Tour than other years due to his days in yellow. His wins also came out of breakaways and not sprints.) and choose to prepare for the WC through the Canadian one day races, ToB, Plouay.

A lot of guys who where at their peak in the spring classics and at the Tour are not racing La Vuelta. (Phille, Vanendert, Hushovd himself)


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