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python

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pls help me here google meisters.

didn't one of armstrong's legal geniuses predict that hamilton's interview to 60 minutes was about nothing but making several euros on the book ?

when i hear a particularly genius prediction, i typically recognize it as particularly disingenuous.

but what do i know about doping ?
 
Race Radio

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python said:
pls help me here google meisters.

didn't one of armstrong's legal geniuses predict that hamilton's interview to 60 minutes was about nothing but making several euros on the book ?

when i hear a particularly genius prediction, i typically recognize it as particularly disingenuous.

but what do i know about doping ?
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By that time Tyler's book was well known
 
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JMBeaushrimp said:
Too bad Tyler's only a bone-idle w*anker who never tried to acheive anything in his life.

Stupid c*nt...
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thats a silly observation. he obviously tried very hard, so much so that he doped.

therefore, he is trying harder than you, willing to risk his health. what have you ever risked?
 
BroDeal

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I have been hoping the book would come out sooner rather than later. The fear was that it would be November after a lot of the Armstrong proceedings were finished. With this release date it can do some good.

It will be interesting to see what comes out about the UCI. Hamilton's anti-doping proceedings were largely funded by the UCI. McQuaid and Verbruggen were p!ssed about the cost. Nailing Hamilton consumed nearly all the money the the UCI had earmarked for antidoping efforts if I remember correctly. That was the reason they had it in for Hamilton when he tried to return to the European peloton. It is also the reason why the UCI refused to fund any of the proceedings against Landis.

When Hamilton tried to return, McQuaid publicly stated that the ProTour's four year rule applied to Hamilton even though Hamilton had tested positive before the policy existed. His reasoning was that it was the date of the CAS decision that mattered, but he was clearly trying to enforce ex post facto law. It was against various conventions and laws for basic human rights. Even after Hamilton was hired by Tinkoff, he was prevented from racing much. Ultimately he had to sue for his salary.

There is a good chance that there was communication between the UCI and Hamilton just like when McQuaid called Landis to tell him not to fight. There is the potential for embarrassing stuff to be revealed about how the UCI blacklists riders and other details about how things are managed behind the scenes, like teams being threatened with consequences if they hire certain riders.
 
BigBoat

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BroDeal said:
There is a good chance that there was communication between the UCI and Hamilton just like when McQuaid called Landis to tell him not to fight. There is the potential for embarrassing stuff to be revealed about how the UCI blacklists riders and other details about how things are managed behind the scenes, like teams being threatened with consequences if they hire certain riders.
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I wonder if he'll actually "tell all." I dont see how the UCI can get him here in the USA though..... It should be a great read! I cant wait. :)
 
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trailrunner said:
No Kindle version. :confused:
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Publishers sometimes decline to release books to Kindle for a period of time after the initial publication date, to protect hardcopy sales. I would assume it'll be on Kindle eventually, but maybe not for several months.
 
BroDeal

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BigBoat said:
I wonder if he'll actually "tell all." I dont see how the UCI can get him here in the USA though..... It should be a great read! I cant wait. :)
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What I am hoping for is a blow-by-blow account of how Postal went from a team without a doping program to one with the best in the business. Hamilton was there from the beginning. He could relate how Armstrong and Bruyneel set up everything up.
 
thehog

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hfer07 said:
YES!!!

looking forward to purchase a copy:)
I'm curious if he's going to aboard the CSC years in detail too...
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For those wanting an exposé you're not going to get it.

This is a book in the foremost about Tyler's depression and what lead to it. Drugs is only part of the story. It's not a tabloid tell-all.

Button up.
 
mewmewmew13

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thehog said:
For those wanting an exposé you're not going to get it.

This is a book in the foremost about Tyler's depression and what lead to it. Drugs is only part of the story. It's not a tabloid tell-all.

Button up.
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Oh well, legally speaking it was probably not realistic....sigh
we can dream cant we?:p
 
ChewbaccaD

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el hipopotamo said:
Nice, and thanks for providing the Amazon link. Just pre-ordered my copy. Here's hoping the book sells well even beyond the Clinic Twelve. Tyler seems like a pretty decent guy.
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Who are the 12 BTW? I will feel kind of bummed out if I am not one of them if I'm being honest...
 
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thehog said:
For those wanting an exposé you're not going to get it.

This is a book in the foremost about Tyler's depression and what lead to it. Drugs is only part of the story. It's not a tabloid tell-all.

Button up.
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Agree totally..I don't think anything in the book will be surprising to the Clinic..Watch for vague descriptions and details, depression blaming, (are dopers depressed?) and reference to Floyds "cheat or be cheated"..The Tugboat pages will be thrown in to warm our hearts along with the broken clavicle stage and subsequent waving and thanking team cars..Lets see if Coyle writes a Tyler good guy book or leaves us with a choice..Thats the book I wanna read.
 
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LOOKFOOL said:
Agree totally..I don't think anything in the book will be surprising to the Clinic..Watch for vague descriptions and details, depression blaming, (are dopers depressed?) and reference to Floyds "cheat or be cheated"..The Tugboat pages will be thrown in to warm our hearts along with the broken clavicle stage and subsequent waving and thanking team cars..Lets see if Coyle writes a Tyler good guy book or leaves us with a choice..Thats the book I wanna read.
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I doubt anything any insider could report about doping would surprise the Clinic any more. But only vague details? After fingering LA on national TV? If that’s the case, maybe he should be sued for false advertising.

Millions of people suffer from depression, and many of them have written about it. I don’t need Tyler to tell me about depression, nor to tell me about the pro racing scene. What makes his book potentially different or unusual is that he was an elite cyclist on the same team as one of the most famous athletes in the world. What he can tell me about—and this is certainly promised in the description of the book on Amazon—is how the environment in cycling, and in particular on his team, led to his doping. If the allegations USADA claims are true, I don’t see how he can tell this story without implicating LA, JB, and others. Read the charging letter again.

I can understand why, for a variety of reasons, Tyler might be well-advised not to say anything in print regarding LA either doping or pressuring Tyler himself to dope. Particularly when LA’s case is in limbo. I wouldn’t blame him at all for shying away from such details in his story. But if this book does not contain details like that, I’m not sure it would be of great interest to me.
 
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And look who Hamilton shares the cover with!!! Hilarious!!!

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thehog said:
For those wanting an exposé you're not going to get it.

This is a book in the foremost about Tyler's depression and what lead to it. Drugs is only part of the story. It's not a tabloid tell-all.
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If what The Hog says is true, and the front cover blurb certainly suggests the otherwise, then I'm not buying this book. I don't want to hear about his depression. I want to read what everyone else in the Clinic is interested in.

I hope he discusses his doping diary from Dr. Fuentes (which has been out on the internet for a couple of years now) and duly explain two issues revolving around the situation-

1) Why on Earth did he feel he needed to take such copious amount of drugs to win?

2) Why was his then-wife the one sending payments to Fuentes using her maiden name?

As for the actual content of the book, let's not forget the words of the poster who started this thread about a year and a half ago-

Race Radio said:
Word is Tyler is writing a book. It will be a tell all about the sport. Riis, Lance, the Hog. Nobody will be spared.
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Here's to hoping Race Radio is correct on this one. He's been right about everything else...
 
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thehog said:
For those wanting an exposé you're not going to get it.

This is a book in the foremost about Tyler's depression and what lead to it. Drugs is only part of the story. It's not a tabloid tell-all.

Button up.
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Based on the Book Description, it sure sounds like more: "
Over the course of two years, Coyle conducted more than two hundred hours of interviews with Hamilton and spoke candidly with numerous teammates, rivals, and friends. The result is an explosive book that takes us, for the first time, deep inside a shadowy, fascinating, and surreal world of unscrupulous doctors, anything-goes team directors, and athletes so relentlessly driven to succeed that they would do anything—and take any risk, physical, mental, or moral—to gain the edge they need to win."
 
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