UCI Forbids Convicted Dopers from Team Management

[Ney the Viking]

So, as usual, its not doping that is the problem, its the getting caught part *rollseyes*

 

[ultimobici]

When I originally saw the CN report of this rule, I was hopeful that the UCI was belatedly doing something right and proper. Now that I have read the small-print, I am back to square one.

What is the point of having this rule if the offences are committed in the future? Why are they shying away from blocking known & repeat offenders? Not only will Vinokourov be exempt, but also Rebellin, Schumacher & Ricco of all people will be outside the net!

What possible excuse can they present for not saying if a rider has been banned for two years they are barred from taking on any role in team management upon retirement? I understand that they cannot apply the rule retrospectively, but they can exclude those who are still riding but yet to move into team management.

Yet again the UCI show themselves to be gutless as well as contemptuous of the fans of the sport.

 

[danjo007]

its a STUPID rule, unless those currently in the system are tossed out too... lets start with Riis, Vaughters and Pieper ! infact, as Riis goes out the door, we should be able to kick him square in the nuts on the way through - just for fun

 

[Benotti69]

It is rules like these when executed properly will have a major effect and it also must be extended to include DS who have doping riders, ie Bruyneel, Saiz, Gianetti etc.......

but yet again it is a press release of no substance. Something the UCI is good at and something the cycling media laps up willingly.

 

[ultimobici]

its a STUPID rule, unless those currently in the system are tossed out too... lets start with Riis, Vaughters and Pieper ! infact, as Riis goes out the door, we should be able to kick him square in the nuts on the way through - just for fun

Problem with that is you are penalising people retrospectively. In the case of Riis, Vaughters & Peiper you're also doing it on the an ad hoc basis. That would leave the UCI wide open to legal action for restraint of trade, something that is illegal in the EU where most teams operate.

 

[ultimobici]

It is rules like these when executed properly will have a major effect and it also must be extended to include DS who have doping riders, ie Bruyneel, Saiz, Gianetti etc.......

but yet again it is a press release of no substance. Something the UCI is good at and something the cycling media laps up willingly.

While I agree with your second point completely, the first is a difficult one. You need to balance it out so the DS who has a rogue rider is not penalised but the ones who are complicit are removed. Perhaps a rule excluding those who have had a certain number of riders caught in a period of time?

 

[Benotti69]

While I agree with your second point completely, the first is a difficult one. You need to balance it out so the DS who has a rogue rider is not penalised but the ones who are complicit are removed. Perhaps a rule excluding those who have had a certain number of riders caught in a period of time?

Internal testing would find riders who are using clinic material and it would be done if your job as a DS depended on riders being clean. Teams/DS would be allowed a minimum 2/3 riders before being banned for life.

 

[ultimobici]

Internal testing would find riders who are using clinic material and it would be done if your job as a DS depended on riders being clean. Teams/DS would be allowed a minimum 2/3 riders before being banned for life.

As soon as you link a person's fate to the actions of others in a free society you are on very shaky ground. Unless that person is able to control every aspect of the other's existence, there is a good chance you'll penalise them unfairly.

I wonder if there is a mechanism by which a DS could have their licence to be so revoked?

 

[ElChingon]

I guess on the bright side for the UCI, no previously banned rider is exempt from being on the UCI board.