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[Axel Hangleck]

Absolutely brutal conditions........It may well take a while to recover.
PFP's perfect start to the season came to a halt; looked good, and 20 secs ahead of Puck, but then lost time, and was dropping back when she crashed......a broken brake lever put her out of the race.
Mona did her usual rubbish start and came back through the field......hell of a ride from Nina Benz.

 

[Axel Hangleck]

the coldest, wettest and muddiest race I remember. riders shaking. Mona Mitterwallner from 20th after the 1st lap to 2nd

It actually reminded me a little of Namur in 2019, when Eli got carried off course with hypothermia.

 

[pastronef]

It actually reminded me a little of Namur in 2019, when Eli got carried off course with hypothermia.

yes I remember that. I really don't know why riders, with 5 degrees and rain, don't put a cap under their helmets. you lose a lot of warmth from the head

 

[pastronef]

2 silver medals for Cannondale (Mona and Andreassen). nice. I'm biased

 

[glassmoon]

5 degrees, rain, and not even a cap under the helmets for many riders.

so apparently ideal for Puck

 

[Axel Hangleck]

Double header from Biesko Biela, Poland ; Enduro & Downhill.......

 

[jmdirt]

yes I remember that. I really don't know why riders, with 5 degrees and rain, don't put a cap under their helmets. you lose a lot of warmth from the head

No more per sq. in. than any other part of your body. That being said, I used to wear a skull cap and arm warmers in races below 55 F because cool air going over my arms and head/ears just felt cold (my legs were generating enough heat to feel OK, plus warming sprays help too).

EDIT: I don't know where/how that 'wives tale' started, but notes from a USA military test in the 1950 (?) noted that 'due to the high blood flow to the brain...'. It has to be pretty cold for the heat from conduction escapes your brain, then through your skull, skin, and out (convection, right?).

 

[pastronef]

... I used to wear a skull cap and arm warmers in races below 55 F because cool air going over my arms and head/ears just felt cold...

what's that?

 

[jmdirt]

what's that?

I have no hair and my ears are sensitive to cool air (tubes as a child), but cool skin isn't the same as losing heat (though you certainly lose heat through your skin, including through perspiration).

Another way to think about the old "80% of your body heat escapes through your head" Most of your vital organs are in your core, does the heat from you core and all of your organs run up through your head like a chimney?

 

[pastronef]

I have no hair and my ears are sensitive to cool air (tubes as a child), but cool skin isn't the same as losing heat (though you certainly lose heat through your skin, including through perspiration).

Another way to think about the old "80% of your body heat escapes through your head" Most of your vital organs are in your core, does the heat from you core and all of your organs run up through your head like a chimney?

I was joking about the Fahrenheit degrees. I had to google that. 12 degrees celsius

 

[jmdirt]

I was joking about the Fahrenheit degrees. I had to google that. 12 degrees celsius

Me too, I just ask my phone to figure out what 12 C is in USA temp.

 

[logeardaddy]

I have no hair and my ears are sensitive to cool air (tubes as a child), but cool skin isn't the same as losing heat (though you certainly lose heat through your skin, including through perspiration).

Another way to think about the old "80% of your body heat escapes through your head" Most of your vital organs are in your core, does the heat from you core and all of your organs run up through your head like a chimney?

So, no need to wear gloves either, since heat doesn't run all the way down your arms?

 

[jmdirt]

So, no need to wear gloves either, since heat doesn't run all the way down your arms?

I always wear long finger gloves (different depending on temps). In cold temps gloves keep your fingers more dexterous. I'm always surprised by CXers with bare hands on cold days.

My original point was that the old myth about most of your body heat escaping through your head is not scientifically accurate. I'm not aware of any such myth about phalanges/phalanx heat loss.

 

[glassmoon]

Vlad Dascalu Gets 17 Month Suspension for Anti-Doping Whereabouts Rule Violations - Pinkbike

The Romanian XC racer will not be allowed to compete at the Paris Olympics, the rest of the 2024 XC World Cup season, and the entire 2025 XC World Cup season.

m.pinkbike.com

 

[Axel Hangleck]

Three strikes and you're out.........sadly for Vlad he's out for 17 months........

All I can say is, fortunately MTB has a low profile, and the Giro is on.....as this news hasn't appeared on many cycling sites.

 

[jmdirt]

Vlad Dascalu Gets 17 Month Suspension for Anti-Doping Whereabouts Rule Violations - Pinkbike

The Romanian XC racer will not be allowed to compete at the Paris Olympics, the rest of the 2024 XC World Cup season, and the entire 2025 XC World Cup season.

m.pinkbike.com

Really stupid or really stupid!

 

[ManicJack]

Really stupid or really stupid!

Crickets from Trek and Vlad. Hard for me to give him the benefit of the doubt, especially knowing that Paolo Slongo is his personal coach.

 

[Ricco']

Crickets from Trek and Vlad. Hard for me to give him the benefit of the doubt, especially knowing that Paolo Slongo is his personal coach.

Slongo? I thought his personal coach was the galician Paulo de la Fuente, who even went with him from Trek - Pirelli to Trek Factory Racing.

 

[ManicJack]

Slongo? I thought his personal coach was the galician Paulo de la Fuente, who even went with him from Trek - Pirelli to Trek Factory Racing.

I could be wrong. Actually hope I am, but I believe Slongo is performance director for Trek. He has worked with the road team for a couple years. He may just oversee the riders individual coaches.

 

[pastronef]

I could be wrong. Actually hope I am, but I believe Slongo is performance director for Trek. He has worked with the road team for a couple years. He may just oversee the riders individual coaches.

Slongo takes care of the road team and that's probably enough work there. Dascalu is based in Spain with a Spanish trainer

 

[glassmoon]

Slongo takes care of the road team and that's probably enough work there. Dascalu is based in Spain with a Spanish trainer

Correct. As Ricco' mentioned (above) it's Paulo de la Fuente.

 

[Ripper]

Correct. As Ricco' mentioned (above) it's Paulo de la Fuente.

Is Slongo confirmed as dodgy?

Back on track with Vlad, man do I hate whereabouts violations. They are what they are, but if you're not doing something naughty, it's just the stupidest way to get yourself on that naughty step.

 

[glassmoon]

Especially if you've already missed 2 times... then you can be certain you're now being targeted and should make it 200% sure you have everything in order...
I wonder what will this do to his career now - Trek and RedBull will not touch him anymore I'm certain.

 

[ManicJack]

Correct. As Ricco' mentioned (above) it's Paulo de la Fuente.

Yes that is correct. He is also TFR MTB team's performance director overseeing all individual rider's coaches.

 

[Axel Hangleck]

Especially if you've already missed 2 times... then you can be certain you're now being targeted and should make it 200% sure you have everything in order...
I wonder what this will do to his career now - Trek and Red Bull will not touch him anymore I'm certain.

The Trek XC team's instagram account has already removed his name from the list of riders.......And they (Trek the manufacturer) are rather 'touchy' about doping issues after the days of Lance.......
Toon Aerts was let go pretty quick by Baloise-Trek after his misdemeanour........