UCI to introduce new World Ranking

[Echoes]

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Is 25th place in 1.1 race really worth more than 4th on a TdF stage?

4th on a TdF stage is worth 15 points, any placing between 16th and 15th on a 1.1 is worth 3 points, so no.

While it should normally be a yes, at least for lat in-line stages.

 

[Fus087]

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I like the idea of the world ranking but it won't become relevant until it's been around for awhile, seeing as it's a rolling year ranking (like CQ) that won't really start until it's been in place for 12 months. Once it's been around a year, they should really include a jersey to give it more significance.

Why did they not start with 12 months worth of points instead of starting from 0? Right now the ranking doesn't mean very much til August or so.

Because they'd have to retroactively calculate a whole season of racing.
Doable, certainly - but very time-consuming.

My guess is that the UCI didn't want to pay InfoStrada Sports (the company that does the rankings) extra to re-calculate all ranking points for 2015.

Should have been part of the initial contract. Can't take that much time considering they'd have access to proper UCI database of results instead of screen scrapes etc. How many people are involved in CQ Ranking? I doubt it's a dedicated team working round the clock somehow.

I do agree that it should have been part of the contract. It's only writing a new calculation program, then feeding it all the results and wait for it to do the calculations (no, Sean Kelly, get off me).

But when the UCI signed the initial contract, they didn't have any plans to introduce the new ranking - so any retroactive calculations of such a rolling ranking weren't included.

 

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The new rankings for this week:

1 (3) Richie Porte (AUS) 820
2 (1) Simon Gerrans (AUS) 755
3 (74) Geraint Thomas (GBR) 678
4 (7) Sergio Henao (COL) 580
5 131) Alberto Contador (ESP) 519
6 (2) Diego Ulissi (ITA) 515
7 (3) Petr Vakoč (CZE) 495
8 (107) Ilnur Zakarin (RUS) 440
9 (5) Fabian Cancellara (SUI) 439
10 (6) Greg Van Avermaet (BEL) 425

 

[TMP402]

Antipodeans continue their dominance.

 

[TMP402]

The new rankings for this week:

1 (10) Greg Van Avermaet 1235
2 (25) Peter Sagan 825
3 (1) Richie Porte 820
4 (2) Simon Gerrans 755
5 (3) Geraint Thomas 678
6 (15) Nacer Bouhanni 637
7 (126) Arnaud Demare 610
8 (11) Alexander Kristoff 600
9 (4) Sergio Henao 580
10 (6) Diego Ulissi 538

 

[patrick767]

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Golden crown/helmet?

This needs to happen.

 

[TMP402]

Rankings from the 27th:

1 (2) Peter SAGAN 1645
2 (1) Greg VAN AVERMAET 1338
3 (3) Richie PORTE 1048
4 (13) Fabian CANCELLARA 1007
5 (12) Alberto CONTADOR VELASCO 859
6 (7) Arnaud DEMARE 835
7 (4) Simon GERRANS 755
8 (6) Nacer BOUHANNI 753
9 (36) Michal KWIATKOWSKI 720
10 (18) Thibaut PINOT 696

 

[Alexandre B.]

Tour Down Under earns too many points.

 

[TMP402]

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Tour Down Under earns too many points.

Yeah - pretty dumb that Gerrans is there but Geraint isn't.

 

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CN article on Sagan's big lead this week

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sagan-tops-uci-worldtour-and-world-rankings/

1 (1) Peter SAGAN 2145
2 (4) Fabian CANCELLARA 1407
3 (2) Greg VAN AVERMAET 1338
4 (12) Alexander KRISTOFF 1074
5 (3) Richie PORTE 1048
6 (5) Alberto CONTADOR VELASCO 859
7 (18) Sep VANMARCKE 845
8 (6) Arnaud DEMARE 835
9 (7) Simon GERRANS 755
10 (8) Nacer BOUHANNI 753

Kwiatkowski and Pinot leave the top 10, replaced by Kristoff and van Marcke.

 

[Alexandre B.]

Top-20 after Roubaix

1°) Peter Sagan
2°) Fabian Cancellara
3°) Greg Van Avermaet
4°) Alberto Contador
5°) Sep Vanmarcke
6°) Alexander Kristoff
7°) Richie Porte
8°) Sergio Henao
9°) Thibaut Pinot
10°) Nairo Quintana
11°) Arnaud Démare
12°) Simon Gerrans
13°) Nacer Bouhanni
14°) Michal Kwiatkowski
15°) Geraint Thomas
16°) Edvald Boasson Hagen
17°) Zdeněk Štybar
18°) Ian Stannard
19°) Ilnur Zakarin
20°) Ben Swift / Diego Ulissi

 

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Top-20 after Roubaix

1°) Peter Sagan
2°) Fabian Cancellara
3°) Greg Van Avermaet
4°) Alberto Contador
5°) Sep Vanmarcke
6°) Alexander Kristoff
7°) Richie Porte
8°) Sergio Henao
9°) Thibaut Pinot
10°) Nairo Quintana
11°) Arnaud Démare
12°) Simon Gerrans
13°) Nacer Bouhanni
14°) Michal Kwiatkowski
15°) Geraint Thomas
16°) Edvald Boasson Hagen
17°) Zdeněk Štybar
18°) Ian Stannard
19°) Ilnur Zakarin
20°) Ben Swift / Diego Ulissi

Source? That looks like the World Tour rankings, which are different.

 

[MatParker117]

In WC news Stannard's Roubaix podium gives GB the full nine riders.

 

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In WC news Stannard's Roubaix podium gives GB the full nine riders.

Are national spots for the Olympics already decided? I forget how they award them.

 

[Cannibal72]

Yes, they were settled at the end of last season in a system that still bewilders me in its arcane and Byzantine aspects. I believe GB qualified the maximum 5.

 

[Ricco']

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Top-20 after Roubaix

1°) Peter Sagan
2°) Fabian Cancellara
3°) Greg Van Avermaet
4°) Alberto Contador
5°) Sep Vanmarcke
6°) Alexander Kristoff
7°) Richie Porte
8°) Sergio Henao
9°) Thibaut Pinot
10°) Nairo Quintana
11°) Arnaud Démare
12°) Simon Gerrans
13°) Nacer Bouhanni
14°) Michal Kwiatkowski
15°) Geraint Thomas
16°) Edvald Boasson Hagen
17°) Zdeněk Štybar
18°) Ian Stannard
19°) Ilnur Zakarin
20°) Ben Swift / Diego Ulissi

Source? That looks like the World Tour rankings, which are different.

According to PCS that's the UCI World Ranking. The UCI World Tour is:

1st Peter Sagan
2nd Alberto Contador
3rd Richie Porte
4th Sergio Luis Henao
5th Sep Vanmarcke
6th Nairo Quintana
7th Fabian Cancellara
8th Greg Van Avermaet
9th Arnaud Démare
10th Ian Stannard
11th Simon Gerrans
12th Thibaut Pinot
13th Alexander Kristoff
14th Geraint Thomas
15th Michal Kwiatkowski
16th Mathew Hayman
17th Ilnur Zakarin
18th Ben Swift
19th Jurgen Roelandts
20th Tom Boonen

 

[TMP402]

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Yes, they were settled at the end of last season in a system that still bewilders me in its arcane and Byzantine aspects. I believe GB qualified the maximum 5.

Ah thanks!

In the spirit of random Sky team fantasising, I give you Team GB:

-Stannard, Thwaites and Rowe as the tough rouleurs who could create echelons or chase them down, and perhaps give GB attacking options if the race doesn't come down to a sprint. Alternatively, Dowsett
-Cummings as the 2km to go attacker. But probably just as another rouleur.
-Thomas to repeat his 2011 role
-Wiggins as the powerhouse of old giving it one last pull on the front. Assuming he can qualify...?
-Pick any of Doull, McLay, Fenn, Blythe and Swift for the actual leadout.
-Cavendish.

GB obviously have some good riders on the flat, but I fear the lack of a quality last leadout man will result in another instance of Cavendish starting the sprint on Kittel's wheel and covering more ground than him but ultimately losing by half a wheel. If GB specifically drilled Stannard, Thomas and Rowe to lead out rather than simply get Cavendish on Kittel's wheel, I'd say he'd have a great chance.

 

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According to PCS that's the UCI World Ranking.

Well when the UCI release the new ranking on their website we'll have confirmation.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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According to PCS that's the UCI World Ranking.

Well when the UCI release the new ranking on their website we'll have confirmation.

Ricco' is right, it's the World Ranking

 

[LaFlorecita]

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In WC news Stannard's Roubaix podium gives GB the full nine riders.

Doesn't that depend on whether they're top 5 in the nation's ranking or not?

 

[MatParker117]

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In WC news Stannard's Roubaix podium gives GB the full nine riders.

Doesn't that depend on whether they're top 5 in the nation's ranking or not?

Top 10.

 

[MatParker117]

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Yes, they were settled at the end of last season in a system that still bewilders me in its arcane and Byzantine aspects. I believe GB qualified the maximum 5.

Ah thanks!

In the spirit of random Sky team fantasising, I give you Team GB:

-Stannard, Thwaites and Rowe as the tough rouleurs who could create echelons or chase them down, and perhaps give GB attacking options if the race doesn't come down to a sprint. Alternatively, Dowsett
-Cummings as the 2km to go attacker. But probably just as another rouleur.
-Thomas to repeat his 2011 role
-Wiggins as the powerhouse of old giving it one last pull on the front. Assuming he can qualify...?
-Pick any of Doull, McLay, Fenn, Blythe and Swift for the actual leadout.
-Cavendish.

GB obviously have some good riders on the flat, but I fear the lack of a quality last leadout man will result in another instance of Cavendish starting the sprint on Kittel's wheel and covering more ground than him but ultimately losing by half a wheel. If GB specifically drilled Stannard, Thomas and Rowe to lead out rather than simply get Cavendish on Kittel's wheel, I'd say he'd have a great chance.

Cav, Rowe, Swift, Fenn, Thomas, Cummings, Stannard, Dowsett, Thwaites

 

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According to PCS that's the UCI World Ranking.

Well when the UCI release the new ranking on their website we'll have confirmation.

Ricco' is right, it's the World Ranking

Yep. It looks like PCS update theirs less regularly though.

 

[Fus087]

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-Wiggins as the powerhouse of old giving it one last pull on the front. Assuming he can qualify...?

He doesn't have to qualify. The national team can select any rider they want for the Worlds, provided he's male and an elite rider (so at least 18 years old).

 

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UCI World Ranking for last week:

1 (1) Peter SAGAN 2215
2 (2) Fabian CANCELLARA 1417
3 (3) Greg VAN AVERMAET 1338
4 (4) Alberto CONTADOR VELASCO 1317
5 (5) Sep VANMARCKE 1130
6 (6) Alexander KRISTOFF 1094
7 (8) Sergio Luis HENAO MONTOYA 1049
8 (7) Richie PORTE 1048
9 (22) Sonny COLBRELLI 938
10 (9) Thibaut PINOT 916

And this week:

1 (1) Peter SAGAN 2215
2 (2) Fabian CANCELLARA 1417
3 (3) Greg VAN AVERMAET 1338
4 (4) Alberto CONTADOR VELASCO 1317
5 (5) Sep VANMARCKE 1130
6 (6) Alexander KRISTOFF 1094
7 (25) Alejandro VALVERDE BELMONTE 1050
8 (7) Sergio Luis HENAO MONTOYA 1049
9 (8) Richie PORTE 1048
10 (71) Wouter POELS 1031