UCI World Championships 2010, Geelong: Early Thread

[onetofifteen]

No. Apart for the track criteria, the World Hour record (the one that stands at 49.7km) has to be done on a standard old fashioned bike, as could have been available to Merckx. Cancellara's TT bike wouldn't have been allowed. The record for modern TT/pursuit bikes stands at 56.375 km (Chris Boardman).

So we have 49.7km record:

And 56.375km record:

And 90.7km record
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD4amc-S88I

 

[karlboss]

Martin is a cut above where he was last year, I expect a similar result to the tour Cancellara, Martin, daylight, everyone else. Some will suggest this had to do with the later riders pushing against more wind, but i think the result would have been the same just less so.

 

[Sasquatch]

Martin is a cut above where he was last year, I expect a similar result to the tour Cancellara, Martin, daylight, everyone else. Some will suggest this had to do with the later riders pushing against more wind, but i think the result would have been the same just less so.

Yeah, top 3 in the TT

1. Cancellara
2. Martin
3. Larsson

Can't see any other result than those 3 getting medals.

 

[The Hitch]

Yeah, top 3 in the TT

1. Cancellara
2. Martin
3. Larsson

Can't see any other result than those 3 getting medals.

Depends on who goes before cancellara. They can wait for him to catch them (which takes about 5 minutes) then they follow him for 45 km. It means you finish 1 minute 20s behind him, but an improvement on the 3 minute deficit you are likely to have.

this is the gustav eric larsson trick from last year.

 

[Polyarmour]

From Cycling Australia's national performance director, Shayne Bannan:

"We see Baden, along with Mat Hayman, Michael Rogers, O'Grady and Wesley Sulzberger as the nucleus of the protection for the leaders and to get them to the critical part of the race."

The leaders therefore being Cadel, Gerrans, Goss and Davis

And on McEwen

"He said he had no qualms about the public airing of McEwen's frustration of his non-selection and praised his contribution to Australian teams in past world championships, explaining that the 3,076m of vertical gain throughout the race - ridden in the last 180km of the race - effectively ended McEwen's chances of riding the world championships on home soil"

 

[royalpig180]

"We see Baden, along with Mat Hayman, Michael Rogers, O'Grady and Wesley Sulzberger as the nucleus of the protection for the leaders and to get them to the critical part of the race."

The leaders therefore being Cadel, Gerrans, Goss and Davis

Though I know this is contradicting what the Australian's have said, I have to agree with what I read in another thread on the forum. Davis is not truly a team leader, which is why he was chosen over Robbie McEwen, who would be less willing to work to lead out Goss.

Goss would be chosen over McEwen as the lead sprinter because 1) he's in good form) and 2) he's more proven in classics type races with some hills (Philadelphia, GP Ouest France) than McEwen and thus is more likely to make it to the finish with the lead group to sprint for the win...

 

[Sasquatch]

Depends on who goes before cancellara. They can wait for him to catch them (which takes about 5 minutes) then they follow him for 45 km. It means you finish 1 minute 20s behind him, but an improvement on the 3 minute deficit you are likely to have.

this is the gustav eric larsson trick from last year.

Yeah, that lost me money last year.

 

[Nick C.]

I know the Worlds is still a little ways off, but I'm wondering what will be the best way to watch the Worlds live in the US?

Universal showed it the last two years and will be showing the Vuelta again this year FWIW.

 

[theyoungest]

First six names for the Dutch:

Road race: Lars Boom, Koos Moerenhout, Sebastian Langeveld, Jos van Emden, Karsten Kroon , Niki Terpstra.

TT: Van Emden, Moerenhout.

 

[Moondance]

First six names for the Dutch:

Road race: Lars Boom, Koos Moerenhout, Sebastian Langeveld, Jos van Emden, Karsten Kroon , Niki Terpstra.

TT: Van Emden, Moerenhout.

Bummed about Tjallingii not getting a TT spot.

Would prefer to see him there to Van Emden.

 

[theyoungest]

Bummed about Tjallingii not getting a TT spot.

Would prefer to see him there to Van Emden.

Yeah, certainly considering the course. I'd given him a guaranteed spot for the road race as well. And exactly how bad does Kroon have to perform to not be selected?

 

[roundabout]

What's so bad about Kroon on this sort of course?

 

[theyoungest]

What's so bad about Kroon on this sort of course?

The course seems good for him. Kroon himself just doesn't seem so good.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

First six names for the Dutch:

Road race: Lars Boom, Koos Moerenhout, Sebastian Langeveld, Jos van Emden, Karsten Kroon , Niki Terpstra.

TT: Van Emden, Moerenhout.

Apart from kroon not alot of complaints.
Actually I'm not so sure i like van emden in the road race either...

The final three places will be filled from the following list of riders: Laurens ten Dam, Johnny Hoogerland, Koen de Kort, Michel Kreder, Steven Kruijswijk, Tom Leezer, Martijn Maaskant, Wout Poels and Maarten Tjallingii.

If hoogie can get some form than i'd like to see him there.

kreder, kruijswijk, poels might not handle the distance, and could be waste, though they are my favorite from the list.

I suspect LTD will have a decent vuelta, and should get a spot. Tjallingii should get a spot also imo.
Maaskant like hoogie... who knows his form.

 

[roundabout]

I wonder why Tankink is not on the list.

 

[Bala Verde]

I wonder why Tankink is not on the list.

Tankink preemptively declined an invitation. Reasons, not his terrain and doesn't feel like flying to Australia for an event he won't be competitive in.

 

[Bala Verde]

Yeah, certainly considering the course. I'd given him a guaranteed spot for the road race as well. And exactly how bad does Kroon have to perform to not be selected?

Kroon collected a whopping 110 points according to CQ :

22/08/2010 1.PT2 [Fra] 57 GP Ouest France - Plouay 5
25/07/2010 GT1 [Fra] 138 Tour de France 20
27/06/2010 NC2 [Ned] 18 National Championships Netherlands (Beek) R.R. 5
20/06/2010 2.PT [Sui] 97 Tour de Suisse 5
18/04/2010 1.PT2 [Ned] 9 Amstel Gold Race 45
14/04/2010 1.1 [Bel] 15 Brabantse Pijl 5
4/04/2010 1.PT1 [Bel] 54 Ronde van Vlaanderen 5
27/03/2010 1.HC [Bel] 30 E3 Prijs Vlaanderen - Harelbeke 5
20/03/2010 1.HIS1 [Ita] 52 Milano - Sanremo 5
16/03/2010 2.HIS [Ita] 87 Tirreno - Adriatico 5
24/01/2010 2.PT [Aus] 119 Tour Down Under 5

9th in AGR was his best place this season...

 

[roundabout]

Ah, I see. I just feel that he would have been hardly worse than say Terpstra or van Emden on this course.

 

[theyoungest]

If hoogie can get some form than i'd like to see him there.

kreder, kruijswijk, poels might not handle the distance, and could be waste, though they are my favorite from the list.

I suspect LTD will have a decent vuelta, and should get a spot. Tjallingii should get a spot also imo.
Maaskant like hoogie... who knows his form.

Poels can handle the distance, he showed this recently at Plouay were he was on the attack in the final two laps. Hoogerland seems to get some sort of form back, he's having a decent August. And let's be honest, we all like to see him jump from useless attack to useless attack, rather than Kroon who hides in the bunch waiting for that moment which he always just seems to miss.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Poels can handle the distance, he showed this recently at Plouay were he was on the attack in the final two laps. Hoogerland seems to get some sort of form back, he's having a decent August. And let's be honest, we all like to see him jump from useless attack to useless attack, rather than Kroon who hides in the bunch waiting for that moment which he always just seems to miss.

Plouay was an indication yes, but the wc is a whole different story tbh. I do like poels a lot though, and would like to see him get ago regardless.

Hoogie was also our best performer last year, even after being in that break. He went with vino if memory nearing a lap to go if memory serves me right.

 

[Bumeington]

Depends on who goes before cancellara. They can wait for him to catch them (which takes about 5 minutes) then they follow him for 45 km. It means you finish 1 minute 20s behind him, but an improvement on the 3 minute deficit you are likely to have.

this is the gustav eric larsson trick from last year.

Cancellara is reigning champ this year (last year it was Grabsh who started last) so I expect Martin will be in front of him, so unless Martin pulls a Larsson (imo unlikely Canc will catch up to Martin based on tdf tt form) then we should see a true run (cycled) race

 

[Johnalex13]

Can anyone confirm yet if Vino is doing Worlds...if so...its his.

 

[Barrus]

Can anyone confirm yet if Vino is doing Worlds...if so...its his.

As far as I know he'll only do the TT

 

[Johnalex13]

why not?!

he would really have an amazing chance.

 

[royalpig180]

He already finished 2 GTs this season. To do the kind of racing he would need to build up to the Worlds as well as the actual race itself would clearly be way too much for him, especially at his older age. He'd want to ride the Vuelta to prepare, and that is not happening after riding the Giro and the Tour.