UCI's response to USADA report

[Carols]

thanks Tygart and the US taxpayers

You're Welcome!!! Tygart still has Bruyneel and the 2 drs to take down.

It's a shame USADA has no jurisdiction over the UCI!!!

Great Job Travis; ding, ding Lance is officially dead....

Now it is up to the sponsors and WADA? to clean up the UCI.

 

[CobbleStoner]

Congratulations to Anquetil, Merckx, Hinault and Indurain for a record five TdF wins!

by your logic, none of them have won a Tour now either, sad day

 

[99kilos]

Let's not celebrate yet...

I think you guys are celebrating a bit too prematurely...the Golden Fleece will be resurrected and returned to Cancer Jesus in 3 days.

 

[diggercuz]

if you read the UCI decision (not the press release) you will see that UCI has numerous issues worthy of appeal with the USADA report. specificly the statute of limitations where UCI states USADA is acting illegaly. UCI however considers this to be a cause for arbitration by Armstrong and not by UCI (his rights are being violated).

Apart from that UCI states that USADA didn't follow proper procedure, and that it isn't independant enough at times (inciting retoric etc.)

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/BUILTIN/g...bjTypeCode=FILE&type=FILE&id=ODE5MjI&LangId=1

so no i would't say that it was weird to think UCI would appeal...in fact the decicion to strip armstrong isn't final yet as both WADA and LA can still go to CAS according to the decision

Yeah i had read that too and immediately i was wondering how Lance can appeal still... I thought (more like presumed) that once he gave up his right to a hearing he had no further bearing on the outcome, however the UCI and then WADA could appeal, and since the UCI arent appealing, then only WADA can...

On another note after reading everything in here for the past year and a half i was shocked when only one guy pushed Pat in regards to the donation... Where were the actual journalists??

 

[webvan]

if you read the UCI decision (not the press release) you will see that UCI has numerous issues worthy of appeal with the USADA report. specificly the statute of limitations where UCI states USADA is acting illegaly. UCI however considers this to be a cause for arbitration by Armstrong and not by UCI (his rights are being violated).

Apart from that UCI states that USADA didn't follow proper procedure, and that it isn't independant enough at times (inciting retoric etc.)

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/BUILTIN/g...bjTypeCode=FILE&type=FILE&id=ODE5MjI&LangId=1

so no i would't say that it was weird to think UCI would appeal...in fact the decicion to strip armstrong isn't final yet as both WADA and LA can still go to CAS according to the decision

Thanks for the link , they have issues but :

UCI would have come to the conclusion that Mr Armstrong had a case to answer indeed and that UCI would have asked USA Cycling to open disciplinary proceedings against Mr Armstrong. Then USA Cycling, under its own rules, would have referred the case to USADA to deal with the disciplinary proceedings. If then, as he did now, Mr Armstrong would also have decided not to proceed to an arbitration hearing, USADA would have taken a decision in the same way as it has done on 10 October 2012.

The recognition also depends on whether Mr Armstrong or WADA will appeal USADA’s decision to CAS.

FatPat taunting WADA, amazing...anyway what's the delay to appeal to CAS, not that Dopestrong has a leg to stand on not having gone to arbitration, but...

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

I think Pat is coming on Sky Sports News shortly.

Let's hope sky have done some research and ask the slippery little **** some tough questions for once.

 

[Carols]

if you read the UCI decision (not the press release) you will see that UCI has numerous issues worthy of appeal with the USADA report. specificly the statute of limitations where UCI states USADA is acting illegaly. UCI however considers this to be a cause for arbitration by Armstrong and not by UCI (his rights are being violated).

Apart from that UCI states that USADA didn't follow proper procedure, and that it isn't independant enough at times (inciting retoric etc.)

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/BUILTIN/g...bjTypeCode=FILE&type=FILE&id=ODE5MjI&LangId=1

so no i would't say that it was weird to think UCI would appeal...in fact the decicion to strip armstrong isn't final yet as both WADA and LA can still go to CAS according to the decision[/QUOTE

Just read it--wow lots of room there for an appeal.

WADA won't appeal so it is up to Lance; I think he'd be a Fool to even consider it.....

 

[No_Balls]

Congratulations to Anquetil, Merckx, Hinault and Indurain for a record five TdF wins!

Yes! I have always had that sour taste in my mouth that these mentioned magnificent, class act riders, were toppled by a bully and sociopath.

 

[Eyeballs Out]

There must be a great book to be written about the UCI, maybe spilling over to the IOC. I really hope David Walsh is giving it serious consideration

His stock has never been higher

 

[ValleyFlowers]

if you read the UCI decision (not the press release) you will see that UCI has numerous issues worthy of appeal with the USADA report. specificly the statute of limitations where UCI states USADA is acting illegaly. UCI however considers this to be a cause for arbitration by Armstrong and not by UCI (his rights are being violated).

Apart from that UCI states that USADA didn't follow proper procedure, and that it isn't independant enough at times (inciting retoric etc.)

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/BUILTIN/g...bjTypeCode=FILE&type=FILE&id=ODE5MjI&LangId=1

so no i would't say that it was weird to think UCI would appeal...in fact the decicion to strip armstrong isn't final yet as both WADA and LA can still go to CAS according to the decision

Thanks for including the link.

Having Lance under oath and facing Travis Tygart at CAS would be 'interesting'.

 

[Aleajactaest]

Congratulations to Anquetil, Merckx, Hinault and Indurain for a record five TdF wins!

It would be more accurate to say:

" Congrats on winning 5 TdF before useful testing". It nearly certain that they all used drugs that would be illegal today.

 

[Aleajactaest]

more like 20% and especially the ones with the biggest mouth here

That's a big list...

 

[python]

I had a dream, I mean 3 dreams, 3 wishes…

wish 1. the devastating evidence of the armstrong fraud to become public. check

wish 2. The fraud being officially stripped and disgraced. check

wish 3. the uci corruption publicly exposed… One more to go.

Oh, and the entire press-conference was a boring, desperate pr stunt of someone pushed against the wall.

except for seeing mcquaid visibly shaken when a journo asked why they accepted money from armstrong AFTER he produced a suspicious epo test. ccquaid blushed and then mumbled his old crap. ’there was no positive test blah, blah, blah. The journo confidently came back, ’I did not say a positive test, I said a suspicious test’ to hear more mindless babble.

if paul plays his cards right, the uci crooks will be nailed with their own lies.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

RaceRadio you made it a thriller for me. Thanks.
Up to today i was sure the UCI won´t strip LA his titles, b/c of your post some time ago that UCI will appeal since Heini wants that.
It was a great feeling switching my computer on and see the headlines "Armstrong has no place in cycling". McQuaid saying this.
Wow, i am still shivering.
LA complete history. Unthinkable. Omg, what a great late satisfaction. I am shocked, but positiveley.

 

[poupou]

Tygart for the legion d'honneur.

Je supporte pleinement cette proposition de bon aloi.

J'ajoute un diner à l'Elysée pour Betzy, RaceRadio, Walsh, Ballester, Ressiot, Ashenden, Kimmage et Bassons.

 

[alberto.legstrong]

Thanks for including the link.

Having Lance under oath and facing Travis Tygart at CAS would be 'interesting'.

I want to see yellow sneakers and tie boy and some of the other drones from the gala mlk ball on the stand explaining themselves.

 

[Don Quixote]

yes, it's disingenuous. but it's still an important blow to verdruggem, given that Millar has an audience of people who believe in him.
So while I think Millar stinks, we should nonetheless welcome these comments.

But Verbruggen is history anyway - he has no future in the sport.

McQuaid needs to go for clean cyclings sake - there are very few without vested interests who have any confidence in him steering cycling in the right direction.

This is what I mean - every time Millar seems to open his gob he shifts the attention away from where it needs to be.

I thought McQuaid mentioning Team Sky by name, but not Garmin a flag.

 

[skimazk]

why would he have to face Tyggart at CAS? he can simply appeal on the grounds that the decision by USADA/UCI is invalid as it extends the statute of limitations. I doubt even if he has to appear in person. Should CAS agree that USADA is bound by the SOL almost the entire case goes out the window and het gets to keep every victory until 2004/2005

 

[thirteen]

Decision of the UCI

 

[D-Queued]

But Verbruggen is history anyway - he has no future in the sport.

McQuaid needs to go for clean cyclings sake - there are very few without vested interests who have any confidence in him steering cycling in the right direction.

This is what I mean - every time Millar seems to open his gob he shifts the attention away from where it needs to be.

I thought McQuaid mentioning Team Sky by name, but not Garmin a flag.

As in, Pat knows what side his bread is buttered on?

i.e. who is under UCI protection now?

Dave.

 

[thirteen]

and USADA reaction

 

[RichWalk]

and USADA reaction

a thinly veiled knock at the UCI's impotence.........

 

[D-Queued]

and USADA reaction

Awesome.

This says it all:

"Despite its prior opposition to USADA's investigation into doping on the U.S. Postal Service cycling team and within the sport, USADA is glad that the UCI finally reversed course..."

Dear UCI: thou doth protest too much.

Dave.

 

[GreasyMonkey]

<Snip> in fact the decicion to strip armstrong isn't final yet as both WADA and LA can still go to CAS according to the decision

Since LA declined to participate in the Arbitration process and accept the default judgement, he waived the right to appeal to CAS.

 

[Bosco10]

why would he have to face Tyggart at CAS? he can simply appeal on the grounds that the decision by USADA/UCI is invalid as it extends the statute of limitations. I doubt even if he has to appear in person. Should CAS agree that USADA is bound by the SOL almost the entire case goes out the window and het gets to keep every victory until 2004/2005

I'm confused. Didn't Lance essentially "plead no contest" by refusing arbitration? He chose not to fight in the first place, so how can he appeal?