Unsportmanlike Leopard Team

[DenisMenchov]

Well, I did say "IIRC", I'm relying on what I remember reading back then. However, judging by this I'm either misremembering things or I read wrong reports at the time.

Well it says :

According to Robert Gesink, it was clear. The Rabobank team should have 'pedalled to the metal'. "In retrospect I now think that we should have simply continued on with the race. After all, when I fell earlier on, they didn't wait for me. Then it was just normal to continue, but afterwards continuing was considered inappropriate. It's really annoying, because we really could have made a difference here." Erik Breukink predicted that the Rabobank riders need not count on the same gesture from other riders the next time anything similar happens. "Tomorrow they won't be waiting around for us in the cobbled stage. By then everyone will have forgotten what happened today."

 

[hrotha]

Well it says :

Hmm, yes, that's why I said:

However, judging by this I'm either misremembering things or I read wrong reports at the time.

 

[DenisMenchov]

Anyway nice way for LT to return the favor.

 

[El Pistolero]

Andy, you master of trolls.

*Screenshot may have been digitally altered.

Which one is altered? The insulting Bauke part or dressing like Andy part?

* this is not a serious post.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

I think we all can agree on this:

It's not unsportmanlike per se, it's racing. There's no sportmanship involved if you're expected to do something regardless of the circumstances. If you're going to be sportmanlike you have to do it on your own volition and despite the fact that it wouldn't be expected of you or anyone else, otherwise it's just cowardice in giving in to peer pressure and calling it sportmanship just to look good. However, when you do it to others but make a big fuss when others do it to you, you *are* being unsportmanlike, hypocritical and a total jerkass. Leopard is an asssquad and they deserve every failure that comes their way.

edit: also, "just following team orders" doesn't cut it. Last year, IIRC, Gesink, Menchov and Freire were told to ride by their DS in the Spa stage, but they refused.

It is not wise making enemies with the entire peloton.
I think the teams have wised up to the schlecks tho.

 

[Archibald]

I think we all can agree on this:

It's not unsportmanlike per se, it's racing. There's no sportmanship involved if you're expected to do something regardless of the circumstances. If you're going to be sportmanlike you have to do it on your own volition and despite the fact that it wouldn't be expected of you or anyone else, otherwise it's just cowardice in giving in to peer pressure and calling it sportmanship just to look good.

certainly can agree on that.

now we've got Terpstra p*ssing n moaning claiming the 'unsportsman' line that another rider took some points off him, when the real issue for him was that he wasn't good enough to take the points for himself.

Dear Mr Terpstra, Suck it up, Cupcake.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Terpstra I think doesn't like losing

I think the heat of the moment got to him, from what I read, he is overreacting.

 

[Archibald]

Terpstra I think doesn't like losing

I think the heat of the moment got to him, from what I read, he is overreacting.

no problem with him being upset at losing, but to point the finger at the guy who beat him and claim "unsportsman-like" is just silly

 

[boomcie]

no problem with him being upset at losing, but to point the finger at the guy who beat him and claim "unsportsman-like" is just silly

He pointed a finger at Klaas Lodewyck IRRC, not Gilbert.

Terpstra was rather respectful about Gilbert. When he was asked if he could maybe drop him in the echelons he said the following:

Dropping Phil in the wind? An illusion. You can always try, but the reality is that he's the best in the world. That's a simple fact.

Source

 

[El Pistolero]

He's still a little whiner

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Klaas Lodewyck almost pushed him in the barriers at that intermediate sprint. So it's logical he is whining about that. He had nothing against Phil tho.

 

[Angliru]

Seems to be lots of leopard-trek hate going on. Seems a lot of people are just looking for more reasons to hate LT. I have comeplete indifference to them, but would find the meltdown if Andy won the tour pretty hilarious.

They just keep supplying the ammo for the dislike to build. Their storyline starting from last year's Tour up to now is ideal for a team for me to root against. A sense of entitlement, double standards, even a slacker attitude by Andy in his dismal effort at the Vuelta where he was supposed to be supporting his brother's efforts in pursuing the gc, with Cancellara's ego driven pre-cobbled classics proclamation that his opponents better get prepared to buckle up for the Cancellara train--followed by his whining afterwards when that is indeed what his opponents did.....and this is the abbreviated version. I could add a quote from one of the mags (the June 2011 edition of Pro Cycling):

"I fought, me the gladiator, against fifty riders leagued against me. I lost but with my head held high."

This sounds to me like someone who takes his given nickname and himself a bit too seriously.

It's rather poetic justice that a rider of similar prominence who came to be the favorite in the Ardennes' classics completed his triple conquest vs a head-to-head battle with Leopard-Trek's 2 hilly classics hopefuls, the Schleck brothers in LBL.

 

[El Pistolero]

Klaas Lodewyck almost pushed him in the barriers at that intermediate sprint. So it's logical he is whining about that. He had nothing against Phil tho.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw3Fr90tMp0

I don't see it. He's not even sprinting against the barriers.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I'm just repeating what Terpstra said in the press. I never expressed an opinion of myself here. Don't shoot the messenger.

Bij de tweede puntensprint, die werd gewonnen door Gilbert, lukte het Terpstra niet de lijn als eerste te passeren. De Nederlands kampioen wilde met de bonificatiesecondes de leiding in handen nemen, maar werd door Klaas Lodewyck, ploegmakker van Gilbert bijna in de hekken gereden. “Als ik niet had ingehouden was ik in de dranghekken gekomen. Jammer want Gilbert zat niet heel fris in de sprint.”

Over die bewuste actie van Lodewyck was Terpstra niet te spreken. “Ik heb hem erop aangesproken maar die hondenkop deed alsof er niets was gebeurd. Protest aantekenen had weinig zin. wat schiet ik er mee op dat als hij wordt gediskwalificeerd.”

 

[El Pistolero]

I'm just repeating what Terpstra said in the press. I never expressed an opinion of myself here. Don't shoot the messenger.

Bij de tweede puntensprint, die werd gewonnen door Gilbert, lukte het Terpstra niet de lijn als eerste te passeren. De Nederlands kampioen wilde met de bonificatiesecondes de leiding in handen nemen, maar werd door Klaas Lodewyck, ploegmakker van Gilbert bijna in de hekken gereden. “Als ik niet had ingehouden was ik in de dranghekken gekomen. Jammer want Gilbert zat niet heel fris in de sprint.”

Over die bewuste actie van Lodewyck was Terpstra niet te spreken. “Ik heb hem erop aangesproken maar die hondenkop deed alsof er niets was gebeurd. Protest aantekenen had weinig zin. wat schiet ik er mee op dat als hij wordt gediskwalificeerd.”

Yeah, but Terpstra is always like this when losing

I like his riding style, but the dude's a whiner

 

[Midnightfright]

They just keep supplying the ammo for the dislike to build. Their storyline starting from last year's Tour up to now is ideal for a team for me to root against. A sense of entitlement, double standards, even a slacker attitude by Andy in his dismal effort at the Vuelta where he was supposed to be supporting his brother's efforts in pursuing the gc, with Cancellara's ego driven pre-cobbled classics proclamation that his opponents better get prepared to buckle up for the Cancellara train--followed by his whining afterwards when that is indeed what his opponents did.....and this is the abbreviated version. I could add a quote from one of the mags (the June 2011 edition of Pro Cycling):

"I fought, me the gladiator, against fifty riders leagued against me. I lost but with my head held high."

This sounds to me like someone who takes his given nickname and himself a bit too seriously.

It's rather poetic justice that a rider of similar prominence who came to be the favorite in the Ardennes' classics completed his triple conquest vs a head-to-head battle with Leopard-Trek's 2 hilly classics hopefuls, the Schleck brothers in LBL.

Meh it doesn't bother me, but I don't really dislike any teams. i can see where your coming from but it does still seem to of got to a point where everything they to will be seen in a negative light by some people.

 

[The Hitch]

I'm just repeating what Terpstra said in the press. I never expressed an opinion of myself here. Don't shoot the messenger.

Bij de tweede puntensprint, die werd gewonnen door Gilbert, lukte het Terpstra niet de lijn als eerste te passeren. De Nederlands kampioen wilde met de bonificatiesecondes de leiding in handen nemen, maar werd door Klaas Lodewyck, ploegmakker van Gilbert bijna in de hekken gereden. “Als ik niet had ingehouden was ik in de dranghekken gekomen. Jammer want Gilbert zat niet heel fris in de sprint.”

Over die bewuste actie van Lodewyck was Terpstra niet te spreken. “Ik heb hem erop aangesproken maar die hondenkop deed alsof er niets was gebeurd. Protest aantekenen had weinig zin. wat schiet ik er mee op dat als hij wordt gediskwalificeerd.”

Come on Ruben. At least give us a taste

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Yeah, but Terpstra is always like this when losing

I like his riding style, but the dude's a whiner

Well then he fits perfectly at Quick Step right? I mean, ever heard Boonen after a loss?

The guy invents an excuse for everything

 

[Havetts]

'Literal' Translation

At the second intermediate sprint, which was won by Gilbert, Terpstra didnt succeed to finish the line as the first person. The Dutch champion wanted to take the lead with the Bonification seconds, but was almost ridden into the fences by Gilberts' Team mate Klaas Lodewyck. "If I didnt hold back I wouldve got into the fences. Its a shame because Gilbert wasnt very fresh in the sprint.

About that action by Lodewyck Terpstra was 'pretty ****ed off'. "I've talked to him about it, but the ''dogface'' acted like nothing happened. Protesting would have no profit, what would I gain if he were to be disqualified'.

Somewhat properly translated, sometimes hard to translate sayings, but I tried my best .

 

[boomcie]

Terpstra says:

At the second intermediate sprint, which was won by Gilbert, Terpstra didnt succeeded to finish the line as the first person. The Dutch champion wanted to take the lead with the Bonification seconds, but was almost ridden into the fences by Gilberts' Team mate Klaas Lodewyck. "If I didnt hold back I wouldve got into the fences. Its a shame because Gilbert wasnt very fresh in the sprint.

So he's talking about himself in third person, while using the term first person. This confuses me a lot.

 

[Havetts]

Didnt succeed bad spelling mistake lol . But no its the person who wrote teh story said that about Terpstra.

Edited it to make it somewhat more clear, dear god my writing style on the forums is cluttery..

 

[hrotha]

Yay, I got it all right, except for the bit about "was niet te spreken" loosely meaning "was pretty ****ed off".

 

[Havetts]

Yay, I got it all right, except for the bit about "was niet te spreken" loosely meaning "was pretty ****ed off".

Basically he didnt want to talk about it, but he worded it pretty aggressive.

 

[hrotha]

Basically he didnt want to talk about it, but he worded it pretty aggressive.

Oh, I thought it was some weird idiom. If it's literal it's pretty funny. "He didn't want to talk about it, except he did, called the other guy a ******* and everything".

 

[boomcie]

"Niet te spreken zijn over iets" means "not being too happy about something".

@Havetts: you did a great job translating that. Don't be so demanding on yourself!