US prosecutors drop case against Armstrong/USPS

[Velodude]

But wasn't your question rhetorical?

Okay, LOL. A second rhetorical question . . ..

You are the only one that believes the same question iterated was rhetorical (in defending a person of your own ilk who can't or won't answer)

The questioner has framed the probe to request and expect an answer. The question was put for a response not effect.

ChrisE is ducking for cover with you running interference for him.

 

[Spider1964]

Wait.. hang on...

So ChrisE said this -

I thought you proclaimed the leak investigation was over; via leak you stated a few months ago LA was full of it and putting up a smokescreen, and it was determined there was nothing to it.

What I don't get is LA filed complaint of leaks against the feds, then the feds were influenced by him to drop the case all conspiracy-like. I guess that's called tough love.

In response to this -

Wait, so the leak investigation is over? Everyone was cleared? What? I thought there was huge corruption?

I am losing my faith in you Goober.

Python asks some (alleged) rhetorical questions -

can you provide a back up to the bolded ? thank you.

again, why should i ask someone to back up a statement you made ??

And Velodude, you come in with all guns blazing to defend python and RR's integrity with this -

You are the only one that believes the same question iterated was rhetorical (in defending a person of your own ilk who can't or won't answer)

The questioner has framed the probe to request and expect an answer. The question was put for a response not effect.

ChrisE is ducking for cover with you running interference for him.

At least you didn't put in your condescending "counsellor" prefix when answering MarkvW this time? (BTW, can you dispense with the "Counsellor bit? We get it, you believe him to be a fake attorney.)

I'm trying to make sense of this thread, but it's hard?

IMO ChrisE was questioning why LA would file a complaint of leaks against the feds, then the feds were influenced by him to drop the case in an alleged conspiracy? Something that ChrisE is not claiming? But is being claimed by other posters in this very thread. (Goober et al). Far be it from me to defend ChrisE, as I'm sure he can clear it up himself (providing he's sober (Joking), but thats my take.

 

[Velodude]

Why can't ChrisE answer for himself rather than have Counselor MarkvW and yourself riding shotgun for him?

 

[MarkvW]

Why can't ChrisE answer for himself rather than have Counselor MarkvW and yourself riding shotgun for him?

Python was just playing with ChrisE after ChrisE wrote something stupid and indefensible.

If you understand that, yet still pursue the issue, then you are just trolling for an argument. If you don't understand that, you're really clueless.

Why not just back off the personal attacks?

 

[Spider1964]

Why can't ChrisE answer for himself rather than have Counselor MarkvW and yourself riding shotgun for him?

No need to get all sanctimonious on us little fella? And I see you took my well meaning counsel. Lol. Counsel.. Counsellor? Ahh.. Deep breath.. Riding shotgun for ChrisE? You make me laugh.

So let me get THIS part straight.. Your only contribution to this thread is to pick posters up on minor spelling errors... Badger another poster on their bona fides.. Ride shotgun with the Snark Brigade (oh the irony)... And yet you accuse ME of riding shotgun for a recalcitrant multiple banned poster who fights his own battles?? Get a grip dude.

Let's just hope that USADA don't have your same myopic view and can gain access to the relevant GJ/Non-GJ testimony to get SOME result out of this soap opera. Or else Polish will be unbearable with his mantra of Insufficient evidence... SSDD..

 

[ChrisE]

Python was just playing with ChrisE after ChrisE wrote something stupid and indefensible.

If you understand that, yet still pursue the issue, then you are just trolling for an argument. If you don't understand that, you're really clueless.

Why not just back off the personal attacks?

Not quite, "counselor".

I was pointing out the hypocrisy of the hate crowd, and how their reasoning the demon LA got off coincides with their agenda.

I find it all funny that govt. anonymous sources are cited by them as proof LA go off on some kind of conspiracy, when LA filed a motion about anonymous leaks (ridiculed at the time by the hate crowd) against the feds that let him go in the face of overwhelming evidence lol. That was the "tough love" statement I made; be strict on the children and they will start acting right. Stay tuned....their hate basis will get more confusing as time goes on.

I still scratch my head that it only took a few hours to overcome their shame for being so galactically wrong on this whole issue to come up with reasons they were right. Even I would be shamed at least for a day before I started dreaming things up.

I just think it is funny. So, in my mind my post wasn't "stupid or indefensible". I will accept your apology in advance. Apology accepted.

 

[ChrisE]

No need to get all sanctimonious on us little fella? And I see you took my well meaning counsel. Lol. Counsel.. Counsellor? Ahh.. Deep breath.. Riding shotgun for ChrisE? You make me laugh.

So let me get THIS part straight.. Your only contribution to this thread is to pick posters up on minor spelling errors... Badger another poster on their bona fides.. Ride shotgun with the Snark Brigade (oh the irony)... And yet you accuse ME of riding shotgun for a recalcitrant multiple banned poster who fights his own battles?? Get a grip dude.

Let's just hope that USADA don't have your same myopic view and can gain access to the relevant GJ/Non-GJ testimony to get SOME result out of this soap opera. Or else Polish will be unbearable with his mantra of Insufficient evidence... SSDD..

Thank you for getting it, spider. Deductive reasoning skills are sometiimes hard to find in here.

BTW, I initially resented you labelling me with the word "recalicitrant", mainly because I wasn't sure what it meant. I thought is was some type of vitamin, and I was gearing up to try to insult you within the framework of the forum rules.

After looking it up on Websters, I see it means unruly and authority defying. I'm good with that, and thanks for the compliment.

 

[patricknd]

enough conflict.

back on topic, how 'bout that lance armstrong?

 

[MarkvW]

Not quite, "counselor".

I was pointing out the hypocrisy of the hate crowd, and how their reasoning the demon LA got off coincides with their agenda.

I find it all funny that govt. anonymous sources are cited by them as proof LA go off on some kind of conspiracy, when LA filed a motion about anonymous leaks (ridiculed at the time by the hate crowd) against the feds that let him go in the face of overwhelming evidence lol. That was the "tough love" statement I made; be strict on the children and they will start acting right. Stay tuned....their hate basis will get more confusing as time goes on.

I still scratch my head that it only took a few hours to overcome their shame for being so galactically wrong on this whole issue to come up with reasons they were right. Even I would be shamed at least for a day before I started dreaming things up.

I just think it is funny. So, in my mind my post wasn't "stupid or indefensible". I will accept your apology in advance. Apology accepted.

The Borat 'Expediency' Group only has two confirmed members-Race Radio and Velodude. Most others appear to at least admit the possibility that the federal decision not to prosecute was an honest decision based on the facts. You should also note that the Race Radio advertised petition to the President only got 139 signatures. There's not much of a "crowd" there.

I shouldn't have used the term "stupid," (sorry) but your post was plainly indefensible. I understand that you were responding to a series of baiting posts by Velodude (a master at that), but why go there? I've responded to those kind of posts too many times myself and when I do I often say something stupid.

 

[thehog]

When has any pro sport, let alone cycling, ever looked "glamorous, clean and healthy" from the outside? C'mon, beer goggles aren't an excuse.

And you and Dirtyworks must love juvenile diabetes. Shame shame.

I honestly thought you were going to tell me that the p0rn industry is very clean as the girls are tested once per month and all of the animals are over the age of 18.

 

[ChrisE]

The Borat 'Expediency' Group only has two confirmed members-Race Radio and Velodude. Most others appear to at least admit the possibility that the federal decision not to prosecute was an honest decision based on the facts. You should also note that the Race Radio advertised petition to the President only got 139 signatures. There's not much of a "crowd" there.

I shouldn't have used the term "stupid," (sorry) but your post was plainly indefensible. I understand that you were responding to a series of baiting posts by Velodude (a master at that), but why go there? I've responded to those kind of posts too many times myself and when I do I often say something stupid.

There are 137 more members of the hate crowd besides those two. And, 137 is a pretty big crowd if you are trying to fit them into a VW; it's all relative.....it just goes to show how few people in this country believe in justice.

And, I further take issue with you saying my post was indefensible. It is obviously defensible because it points out the hypocrisy here. Maybe you should read my previous post again.

So, I do not accept your half apology. It's either you apologize for "stupid" AND "indefensible" or nothing at all. I am still pizzed at your criticism upthread about me being mean to carrot. Thanks.

 

[Microchip]

Want to hang out with @lancearmstrong for the weekend? Only $25,000

http://www.sbrwithlanceandfriends.com/Details_and_Contact.htm

This really stretches the imagination. I'm wondering if it's even true, or just a ploy to see if there's still interest in LA.

 

[Polish]

Let's just hope that USADA don't have your same myopic view and can gain access to the relevant GJ/Non-GJ testimony to get SOME result out of this soap opera. Or else Polish will be unbearable with his mantra of Insufficient evidence... SSDD..

Spider1964, the USADA investigation really does not matter. Really

Lance being Cleared by the Feds is the Important Investigation. Like Lance winning the Tour de France. The Big Dance. THE One that matters..

The USADA investigation is like an After Tour Criterium. Hardly anyone takes it seriously. Just for show. And when Lance is cleared the the USADA? Yawn.
And if Lance actually loses - big deal. Most people will think it was pre arranged in some way. So yawn again.

 

[caryopsis]

...Lance being Cleared by the Feds is the Important Investigation.

"as a dog returns to its vomit, so a fool repeats his folly." (Proverbs 26:11, Bible).

Polish is too clever to be a fool, so maybe "...so an intentionally misleading instigator [troll?] repeats his SSDD" is more accurate. fake doggie sh*t in his case.

 

[MarkvW]

Polish is just trying to provoke. Of course Lance wasn't "cleared" of anything. All we know is that the investigation of Lance is terminated.

 

[BroDeal]

"as a dog returns to its vomit, so a fool repeats his folly." (Proverbs 26:11, Bible).

Polish is too clever to be a fool, so maybe "...so an intentionally misleading instigator [troll?] repeats his SSDD" is more accurate. fake doggie sh*t in his case.

That is exactly it. He found a distortion that gets people riled up so he continues to repeat it. It's his standard trolling technique that he uses to destroy threads so that only a few will wade through the crap to read them.

 

[Polish]

Why do some of you have a problem with "cleared by the Feds?
Come on, its Rational. Logical. Obvious. True.

How would you better describe it? In 4 or less words?
Say you are at the Water Cooler and someone asks "what ever happened to that Lance Armstrong investigation thing?".

How would you answer that person?
Is your answer more rational and logical?
If so, why is the person looking at their watch and saying they have to run off to a meeting?
Take a hint guys.
Cleared by the Feds.

 

[Polish]

That is exactly it. He found a distortion that gets people riled up so he continues to repeat it. It's his standard trolling technique that he uses to destroy threads so that only a few will wade through the crap to read them.

Only a few will wade through the crap?
This thread is the second most posted upon in the history of The Clinic.
Second only to the 10,000+ post (and locked) "Lance is an Interesting Thing" thread.

And who is posting the most on this thread?
Heck, I am only number ten grrrrr.

MarkvW 202 posts
Race Radio 198
Velodude 143
BotanyBay 128
LarryBudMelman 125
thehog 123
Scott SoCal 121
Dr. Maserati 97
ChrisE 89
Polish 83

 

[MacRoadie]

Heck, I am only number ten grrrrr.

MarkvW 202 posts
Race Radio 198
Velodude 143
BotanyBay 128
LarryBudMelman 125
thehog 123
Scott SoCal 121
Dr. Maserati 97
ChrisE 89
Polish 83

I wonder how the numbers stack up once you add in all the deleted nonsense...

 

[Elagabalus]

... In 4 or less words?
Say you are at the Water Cooler and someone asks "what ever happened to that Lance Armstrong investigation thing?".
...

"The case was dropped"* What do I win?!!



*or alternatively "The investigation was dropped".

 

[mewmewmew13]

Only a few will wade through the crap?
This thread is the second most posted upon in the history of The Clinic.
Second only to the 10,000+ post (and locked) "Lance is an Interesting Thing" thread.

And who is posting the most on this thread?
Heck, I am only number ten grrrrr."

The fact that you are here and policing the thread so vociferously says something to me.

If it were a done and settled deal then I think your job would also be done.

Meanwhile, the post count grows and you are in the top ten....

 

[Polish]

"The case was dropped"* What do I win?!!



*or alternatively "The investigation was dropped".

"The case was dropped" IS better than "cleared by the Feds"
Thanks.

No more "cleared by the Feds" from me
It will be the "case was dropped" from here on out.
Promise


Or more precisely - "the case was dropped due to insufficient evidence"

 

[hughmoore]

There was no case, no charges, nothing because there wasnt a shread of evidence to present.


Big Thankyou to Novitsky for confirming what we all know!!!




Hugh

 

[MarkvW]

Or more precisely - "the case was dropped due to insufficient evidence"

Entirely reasonable.

 

[mewmewmew13]

There was no case, no charges, nothing because there wasnt a shread of evidence to present.


Big Thankyou to Novitsky for confirming what we all know!!!




Hugh

wow. Link to this revelation?
I'm glad you are in the know and will keep us informed.