US prosecutors drop case against Armstrong/USPS

[MarkvW]

. . .In the end the evidence played no part whatsoever. . . .

While that conclusion is dictated by conclusions expressed in your earlier posts, it does not reflect reality.

You're saying that the evidence played no part WHATSOEVER? How could you possibly know that? How can you say that there is no possible way that the evidence played a part?

Your conclusions are unsupportable.

 

[Benotti69]

We're still waiting for the first coming, so no way someone as crazy as Koresh could be #2.

PS. Sorry to the people who have faith in divinity. No offence intended. It's just the left side of my brain, but I respect all the good that many congregations bring to the World.

There was no coming nor will there be

For those of a yella disposition, who it seems will begin to believe that Armstrong was a virgin birth and sent to bring awareness to the world and has done OH SO MUCH GOOD, better stock up on yella

 

[JRTinMA]

Because the Armstrong case was dropped it does not mean that many of the things said on this forum or whatever was told by witnesses during the investigation never happened. How do you know that? And what do you know about the case being dropped? There are many things that we don't know, and might never know in our lifetime. Just don't relate the case being dropped with Armstrong and Bruynel being angels and clean. It has nothing to do with that. On the other hand, if you have inside information, please share with us.

That's the whole point, I never claimed to know anything but the simple fact that this case would never make it to trial. On the other hand, a simple search will show you the clinic regulars who predicted a slam dunk case with LA getting everything from a simple conviction to doing time. When I made my claim that he would walk the clinic regulars would label me a fanboy, this is what empty headed haters do when they have nothing but group think as a basis for all of their beliefs. In fact, I never said I was an Armstrong fan, with a few exceptions when I was trolling somebody for pure entertainment value. Nobody had facts or even the ability to reason, fact is the clinic regs couldn't separate the hate from reality, reality was this case was to hard to prove and would never get done after Bonds and Clemens. When LA is thanking his counsel he should drop a note to one of the greatest pitchers the game has seen and say thanks to Roger. Probably should thank that swollen headed cheat Bonds too.

 

[MarkvW]

Any action by USADA is not out of time and would embrace the 8 years back from 2010 to 2002.

USADA were running their investigation in parallel with and in travels with the Feds.

If you listen to the Irish radio interview with Pat McQuaid that had taken place within days of the public release of Floyd's emails he was pi**ed off with Floyd's timing.

None other than the clinic's resident legal expert has confirmed the above interpretation.

A recent USADA decision gives the oportunity to extend back beyond 8 years if certain circumstances exist.

Read section 307 of the UCI code. The obnoxious Maserati schooled me on this a little while back. An investigation stops the clock. RR's post was the more interesting one (regarding the Hellebuyck case). That matter holds (for now at least) that a big fat liar doesn't get the benefit of finality when he prevails in an antidoping investigation.

 

[Polish]

Any action by USADA is not out of time and would embrace the 8 years back from 2010 to 2002.

USADA were running their investigation in parallel with and in travels with the Feds.

If you listen to the Irish radio interview with Pat McQuaid that had taken place within days of the public release of Floyd's emails he was pi**ed off with Floyd's timing.

None other than the clinic's resident legal expert has confirmed the above interpretation.

A recent USADA decision gives the oportunity to extend back beyond 8 years if certain circumstances exist.

No doubt the USADA and WADA are extremely disappointed in the "outcome" of the Federal case. Remember when Mr Howman was boasting "this will be bigger than BALCO". Very disappointed.

But when the USADA and WADA come to terms with their disappointment, they will move on. To take it further would be fail. Major Fail.

And do you really think HWMNBN is worried about a USADA investigation?
Come On.
That is like being worried about another OutSide Mag hooker/blow/jetfuel story.

 

[The Plediadian]

I was gonna put up one of the "Obvious Troll is obvious" pictures that I find so funny. But then I thought to myself "maybe he's not a troll maybe he's just an idiot". So I'm inclined to give you the benefit of the doubt and not post the pic.
Have a great day!

BAMMER, feel the love, feel the power, LIVESTRONG!!!

 

[Velodude]

Read section 307 of the UCI code. The obnoxious Maserati schooled me on this a little while back. An investigation stops the clock. RR's post was the more interesting one (regarding the Hellebuyck case). That matter holds (for now at least) that a big fat liar doesn't get the benefit of finality when he prevails in an antidoping investigation.

So what is your point. Is my post flawed as to fact?

 

[Cal_Joe]

Pelkey

Charles Pelkey discusses many aspects of this in his latest column at Red Kite Prayer.

http://redkiteprayer.com/?p=7669

 

[MarkvW]

So what is your point. Is my post flawed as to fact?

You can stop the attacks now!!

 

[LarryBudMelman]

While that conclusion is dictated by conclusions expressed in your earlier posts, it does not reflect reality.

You're saying that the evidence played no part WHATSOEVER? How could you possibly know that? How can you say that there is no possible way that the evidence played a part?

Your conclusions are unsupportable.

Money and political connections.. If you think this is over you're dreaming. 60 Minutes will do another story on this guaranteed.

All of these people who uncovered a massive fraud over 20 months are going to be silent? OK.

 

[MarkvW]

Money and political connections.. If you think this is over you're dreaming. 60 Minutes will do another story on this guaranteed.

All of these people who uncovered a massive fraud over 20 months are going to be silent? OK.

Alternative A: You're wrong.
Alternative B: Massive Corruption.

For the time being, I'll stick with alternative A.

 

[patricknd]

BAMMER, feel the love, feel the power, LIVESTRONG!!!

don't you mean karmastrong? (tip of the hat to polish)

 

[broken chain]

Like I've said time and time again,make it legal to dope.
Its never going to stop.I kind of like watching cyclists climb a 45 degree incline faster than I can ride a flat route
My health isn't compromised by their drug abuse.
Doping is counter productive to the goal of cycling,good health.
Make two classes,1.-sauced to the gills,2.-no sauce.

 

[Poursuivant]

Charles Pelkey discusses many aspects of this in his latest column at Red Kite Prayer.

http://redkiteprayer.com/?p=7669

Thanks for link. Seems a tad unprofessional that Novitzky and co. were only told 30 minutes before the world was.

 

[peterst6906]

60 Minutes will do another story on this guaranteed.

With what angle on the story?

If you want to predict they will go after LA further in the negative, I'll offer a bet on that, because I don't think they will.

I'll offer EUR 100 (USD 131.54) on a charity of your choice if you will do the same. 12 months timeframe.

 

[Velodude]

Charles Pelkey discusses many aspects of this in his latest column at Red Kite Prayer.

http://redkiteprayer.com/?p=7669

Very odious when lead investigator, Jeff Novitzky, was only informed 30 minutes before the announcement ending the 2 year investigation.

 

[mewmewmew13]

I disagree. Contrarian is a worse example.

BTW, interesting that "Good Karma" and the "Lance Effect" have so much in common. Do goods things for millions of people and good things will happen to you.

KarmaStrong!

Thank you for so perfectly illustrating my exact point.

 

[Cal_Joe]

Very odious when lead investigator, Jeff Novitzky, was only informed 30 minutes before the announcement ending the 2 year investigation.

But what we do not know is if there were any previous discussions among DAs/investigators that this could happen. Now if the article stated that the announcement came as a surprise and a shock, that could be a bit troubling.

 

[aphronesis]

Very odious when lead investigator, Jeff Novitzky, was only informed 30 minutes before the announcement ending the 2 year investigation.

Why? Because some low-salaried, media throw-backs (people who compartmentalize difficult truths through film-noir), and a few others beatified him, you think his job is anything other than as described?

 

[Polish]

Very odious when lead investigator, Jeff Novitzky, was only informed 30 minutes before the announcement ending the 2 year investigation.

Less than 24 hours after the announcement and we already know that Mr Novitzky was only given a 30 minute heads up?

From an un-named source?
odious and ironic

 

[webvan]

It's pretty mind-boggling that the decision to drop the case was the work of one guy...now that dude's sure to be welcome at the restaurant in Aspen where Hamilton was bullied by Armstrong...

 

[MarkvW]

Less than 24 hours after the announcement and we already know that Mr Novitzky was only given a 30 minute heads up?

From an un-named source?
odious and ironic

Your point is well-taken.

 

[hrotha]

Charles Pelkey discusses many aspects of this in his latest column at Red Kite Prayer.

http://redkiteprayer.com/?p=7669

We've seen this in countless cop movies. This is when the cop decides to go private investigator rather than drop the case, and in the end he solves the crime and he's admitted back into the police as a hero. Come on, do it, Jeff.

 

[peterst6906]

We've seen this in countless cop movies. This is when the cop decides to go private investigator rather than drop the case, and in the end he solves the crime and he's admitted back into the police as a hero. Come on, do it, Jeff.

Yes, but Jeff looks more Mr Bean than Bruce Willis, so it might not fly.

 

[Poursuivant]

We've seen this in countless cop movies. This is when the cop decides to go private investigator rather than drop the case, and in the end he solves the crime and he's admitted back into the police as a hero. Come on, do it, Jeff.

lol, good stuff.