USADA - Armstrong

[TubularBills]

Outcome?

Organic & all natural.

 

[BroDeal]

So we have a new winner for number 10.000
How did you cheat yourself to victory?
This will not go unpunished.

Two can play at this game.

Back on top, baby.

 

[TubularBills]

The entertainment value is second to none with new story lines being created everyday. The stars are larger than life...

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Reality TV.

 

[Maxiton]

This is actually huge when you think about it. The winner of the Tour de France from 1999 through 2005 and patron of the peloton, Lance Armstrong, is about to be stripped of all his results from virtually his entire career, by his own country's anti-doping agency. And, beyond a few more expensive but halfhearted stabs at legal action by his lawyers, there doesn't seem to be much he can do about it. (Their legal actions will always stop short of putting Lance under oath. That is the meaning of his recusing himself from further fighting this.) Furthermore, at the behest of IOC and WADA, UCI will likely be forced to recognize this. And even ASO will have to account for it, despite not wanting to, because they will have to follow prevailing political winds in order for their event to be taken at all seriously.

When Landis dropped his bombshell and Armstrong announced, "We like our credibility," who among us imagined that a scant two years later Lance would be a man stripped of all results? Amazing.

 

[neineinei]

Brunyeel and del Moral are still going for arbitration? What about Pedro Celaya?

 

[sittingbison]

...Will he sue Tyler for libel once Tyler's book is published?

pretty hard to sue for libel when you have just been proved a doper by USADA

 

[Roland Rat]

So he's lost all results since 1 August 1998. Great.

But still unsatisfactory. When's he going to be brought to account for threatening intimidating and attempting to destroy people who told the truth? For lying to millions of cancer sufferers and their families? For diverting money from honourable charities to his filthy excuse for a foundation. And for using that money as if it were his own?

Over to you, SCA, for a start.

 

[TubularBills]

This is actually huge when you think about it. The winner of the Tour de France from 1999 through 2005 and patron of the peloton, Lance Armstrong, is about to be stripped of all his results from virtually his entire career, by his own country's anti-doping agency. And, beyond a few more expensive but halfhearted stabs at legal action by his lawyers, there doesn't seem to be much he can do about it. (Their legal actions will always stop short of putting Lance under oath. That is the meaning of his recusing himself from further fighting this.) Furthermore, at the behest of IOC and WADA, UCI will likely be forced to recognize this. And even ASO will have to account for it, despite not wanting to, because they will have to follow prevailing political winds in order for their event to be taken at all seriously.

When Landis dropped his bombshell and Armstrong announced, "We like our credibility," who among us imagined that a scant two years later Lance would be a man stripped of all results? Amazing.

+1

An eloquent summary.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Yeah, that puts it in perspective. Even the always optimistic "thehog" was quitting after Birotte closed his case. Everybody was so down, that i had to be the optimistic guy by quoting Gandhi.
We shall not be greedy and be very happy if Armstrongs 7 TdF titles are stripped...

This is actually huge when you think about it. The winner of the Tour de France from 1999 through 2005 and patron of the peloton, Lance Armstrong, is about to be stripped of all his results from virtually his entire career, by his own country's anti-doping agency. And, beyond a few more expensive but halfhearted stabs at legal action by his lawyers, there doesn't seem to be much he can do about it. (Their legal actions will always stop short of putting Lance under oath. That is the meaning of his recusing himself from further fighting this.) Furthermore, at the behest of IOC and WADA, UCI will likely be forced to recognize this. And even ASO will have to account for it, despite not wanting to, because they will have to follow prevailing political winds in order for their event to be taken at all seriously.

When Landis dropped his bombshell and Armstrong announced, "We like our credibility," who among us imagined that a scant two years later Lance would be a man stripped of all results? Amazing.

 

[Animal]

So he's lost all results since 1 August 1998. Great.

But still unsatisfactory. When's he going to be brought to account for threatening intimidating and attempting to destroy people who told the truth? For lying to millions of cancer sufferers and their families? For diverting money from honourable charities to his filthy excuse for a foundation. And for using that money as if it were his own?

Over to you, SCA, for a start.

Yes, that's the best hope.

That SCA go after their money.

 

[LauraLyn]

The sad thing is that Bruyneel and the others will probably withdraw from arbitration. JV will continue to keep Armstrong's secrets. We need more than a few people being sanctioned. The whole thing needs to be exposed.

I hope Hamilton gives the detail that is needed.

TT will need to leave his desk today and go to the mailbox.
Bruyneel, Ceyala, and Marti will not show up for arbitration.

Armstrong has been thrown under the bus to protect the powers that be in cycling and in sport generally.

For Armstrong personally his press release of August 23rd is very sad. It amounts to a confession without a confession. It shows the enormous depth of weakness of a man who without a doubt has a great athletic body (with or without dope).

The statement is an act of desperation to hold on to a lie. It has 0 chance of success.

Armstrong could have done something great for cycling and sports by confessing, by telling the truth, by giving up his own false victories to help clean up a sport.

Travis Tygart was right: Cycling needs a Truth and Reconciliation Process. Armstrong could have saved himself in the eyes of his children. It is now probably too late for his redemption in any form or style. This is enormously sad however we regard the person.

 

[BullsFan22]

So will Zuelle, Ullrich, Beloki and Basso get the victories now or will those years just be without a winner and bombarded with this:******???

 

[Animal]

They might: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...-case-against-ArmstrongUS-Postal-Service.aspx

 

[Roland Rat]

Armstrong could have done something great for cycling and sports by confessing, by telling the truth, by giving up his own false victories to help clean up a sport.

Travis Tygart was right: Cycling needs a Truth and Reconciliation Process. Armstrong could have saved himself in the eyes of his children. It is now probably too late for his redemption in any form or style. This is enormously sad however we regard the person.

Yes, his kids will forever be the son/daughter of the Great Fraud. He's pretty much ruined their lives before they have started. And yet he still doesn't seem to give them one thought. A repulsive man of the highest order.

 

[sittingbison]

Lets not forget there are MORE than ten team mates PLUS several others that were witnesses. It appears the team mates were all involved in the doping conspiracy, USADA said they did not receive special dispensation. So they will have to be sanctioned.

Travis just said on Velonation that the evidence would come out when the time was right, I believe the can of worms will be opened when every one of those MORE than ten riders is individually dealt with in an open arbitration with all evidence heard.

 

[Animal]

And how about all those that he sued for "damages" counter sue to recover their losses which were fraudulently claimed?

 

[sittingbison]

...Armstrong could have done something great for cycling and sports by confessing, by telling the truth, by giving up his own false victories to help clean up a sport...

There was and will never be the slightest chance of Lance confessing to anything, because he is a sociopath.

 

[Maxiton]

Yes, that's the best hope.

That SCA go after their money.

They might: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...-case-against-ArmstrongUS-Postal-Service.aspx

FWIW, I agree w/ Quick Stepper - it doesn't sound like they have much of a case. But the Feds - that might be another story.

Also, LA, through his companies and sponsors, still has deep connections in the press. So we'll likely see more whitewashing and continued hero-making, a la that bit in Velonews (The previous editor as I recall had taken a much more critical turn toward LA - that editor's head still lies in the wicker basket it fell into.)

 

[TubularBills]

Yes, his kids will forever be the son/daughter of the Great Fraud. He's pretty much ruined their lives before they have started. And yet he still doesn't seem to give them one thought. A repulsive man of the highest order.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-OkFKJBSbw

 

[Bavarianrider]

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[therealtimshady]

Ok - if usada strip lance of his tdf wins doesn't that mean the same as me saying "I strip lance of his wins"

Who actually has the authority to wipe them
From the record books - ASO? what happens if they don't agree

 

[pastronef]

so finally the only winners are oakley, nike and trek, eh?

nobody will strip them of the $$$ they made in the last 13 years

 

[Roland Rat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-OkFKJBSbw

Nice.

What a ***.

 

[datalore]

Ok - if usada strip lance of his tdf wins doesn't that mean the same as me saying "I strip lance of his wins"

Who actually has the authority to wipe them
From the record books - ASO? what happens if they don't agree

In other news, I just stripped Lance of all results back to 1998.

Honestly, I highly doubt that failing to go forward with arbitration is going to be enough to get any of Lance's results stripped. That isn't a true admission of guilt by any standard.

 

[86TDFWinner]

The deal isn't done. It seems likely Wonderboy has to contest, so that will slow things down. And then Wonderboy will be making stuff up to slow it down again. Let's say it gets all the way through USADA's arbitration in 6 months, then it's likely off to CAS to delay the inevitable for Wonderboy.

After CAS, the ASO could never get around to changing those wins...

Lots of opportunities for Friday afternoon press releases left. Plus, we've got some ominous foreshadowing from RaceRadio regarding another personality in the case.

It's going to be a while...

FWIW, I think a new thread is a good idea. It broke 1000, that's long enough.

And yet, he just said he was "tired & chooses not to participate", YET he still IS "participating"by appealing anything from.this point on, even "suing" is participation. Hes such a lying, pathetic, POS. He cant even lie right. Besides, if.his lawyers are claiming the USADA doesnt have "jurisdiction" then why the hell would he agree to the ban and so forth? He and his stupid lawyers are actually pretty stupid.