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15. In order to make cycling more commercially viable, the UCI should give financial bonuses to teams which hire cute (and therefore marketable) riders, and give those riders financial bonuses for sexy photo shoots.
Fair points - but you are only looking at this from a fans point of view (and a TV/internet viewer POV also).luckyboy said:<snipped for brevity>
Really struggle to think of anything that would make cycling more exciting so as to draw new fans in. Maybe if it was advertised better/in the news more, people would watch.
Most people know nothing about cycling, apart from Lance Armstrong or Tour de France. I must seem really cynical, but I really cannot think of something that would bring fans in.
SkipMadness's points about having less riders per team + making routes better would make it more exciting for us fans, but I don't see people tuning in because there are more mountaintop finishes in such-and-such a race this year.
hrotha said:1. More races of the highest level outside of Europe.
This is good in that it'll help bring sponsors from somewhat more exotic places to replace the dearth of money in the traditional cycling countries, but it shouldn't come at the expense of consolidated races in Europe. We all want interesting races like Montreal and Quebec, we don't want races with no character usurping the place of, say, Laigueglia, Volta a Catalunya or Emilia.
3. Long-term guaranteed entry to the Tour de France for professional teams.
Disagree. Earn your spot, and let the organizers organize their races. The usual argument that a sponsor won't enter the sport if it's not guaranteed a place at the Tour is countered by itself - once the spots are covered, who's going to start a new team? For the long-term well-being of the sport, start promoting other races aside from the Tour, so that attracting new sponsors doesn't come down to just three weeks in July.
pedaling squares said:3. Long-term guaranteed entry to the Tour de France for professional teams.
hrotha summed up my perspective on this nicely. Potentially harmful to development of the sport.
Greenflame said:-
- A fourth GT in October / November, after the Giro di Lombardia. Possibly the Tour of California (but with more daring course than the last few years).
- Generally more races outside of Europe, as Vaughters said, but not at the expense of European races. There are quite a few European races that are pretty redundant though.
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Ferminal said:2: What is so difficult to understand about the first one across the line, or the one with the shortest time? I find track cycling more confusing.
The Hitch said:Only 1 candidate for this. Vuelta a Colombia, a country with a far more ingrained cycling culture than California (its the 2nd sport there) a race with a lot of history an absolutely amazing parcors and its already hugely important (biggest race for all southamerican teams)
Also they hit their summer in October November.
Edit: and its already a 2 week race.
bhilden said:The popularity of Formula 1 is largely a result of the great worldwide TV coverage which brings every race into TV's across the globe.
well when you make a big change you dont do it all at once. Slow and steady.luckyboy said:Can imagine the 18 ProTour teams + 3 Colombian wildcards as I type![]()
Skip Madness said:14. Make "most aggressive rider" a jersey, use it to replace the rubbish "best young rider" classification, which is a classification for riders who are just losing with a caveat. Use the old Giro system of scoring it by number of kilometres spent out in front, but award points inversely according to how many riders are in the break/lead group:
1 lone rider = 10 points per kilometre
2 riders = 9 points each per kilometre
3 riders = 8 points each per kilometre
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10 riders = 1 point each per kilometre
Awarding a jersey prize would add prestige, and the inverse points reward would mean attacking from the front to make big groups smaller would encourage lots more aggression.
The obstacle is it would be hard to calculate, especially on the move obviously. But surely no harder than the Giro system.
Skip Madness said:Nice idea, but it needs to be done carefully. See how fed up lots of fans have got at being told how important the Tour of California supposedly is.
Agree. The current system of measuring the winner by seeing who finishes the race fastest has proven too complex.
The opposite. If they insist on this ProTour thing (and I can see some merit in it) limit it to fifteen teams at most, award places based on merit and allow teams to opt out of their place.
A bit of a platitude, but fine in principle.
The number of team time trials already is perfectly adequate. Make them shorter, though. Individual time trials, on the other hand, need to be far more numerous and far longer.
Maybe I only speak for myself, but I really doubt most fans, casual or not, care a great deal about this. Still, they wouldn't hurt.
The smartest team? I'd say the smartest teams would be the ones who - in the absence of team radios - research the races well in advance and plan strategies accordingly before they race rather than having it dictated to them on the fly by someone in a car.
The smartest teams already win quite often. They plan their attacks carefully and use their riders wisely. Equipment innovation is fine in and of itself, but it should be made equally available to all teams where possible.
Team radios should be removed in my opinion, so no.
As 6. Of superficial interest at best, to me at least. But as a little gimmick, fine.
There is no, and can never be, an understandable and consistent way of determining the best rider in the world. There is too much subjectivity in what makes a rider good and which races are important. Again, superficial stuff which I doubt many people care about.
11. Make races routes better to encourage more aggressive riding, giving people a reason to tune in for more than half an hour.
12. Consider reducing the number of riders per team in order to limit the control that any one team can have, again opening the doors to less predictable racing.
The Hitch said:Only 1 candidate for this. Vuelta a Colombia, a country with a far more ingrained cycling culture than California (its the 2nd sport there) a race with a lot of history an absolutely amazing parcors and its already hugely important (biggest race for all southamerican teams)
Also they hit their summer in October November.
Edit: and its already a 2 week race.
movingtarget said:1. Easy to say but a big financial committment for the teams and the sponsors. TOC and TDU will grow but Europe has the tradition behind it.
2. Don't agree with this. Do some reading then you will know. It's not that complicated.
3. Disagree. Based on team results only.
4. Keep dreaming.
5. This has to be a joke.
6. Uh no.....
7. Dumb.
8. Dumb.
9. Wouldn't most fans prefer to see their favourite rider on camera and time checks are supplied anyway.
10. Dumb.
He is a obviously a wasted talent. He should be in marketing or working at Disneyland.
Originally Posted by bhilden View Post
The popularity of Formula 1 is largely a result of the great worldwide TV coverage which brings every race into TV's across the globe.
hfer07 said:
bhilden said:You don't think global TV coverage is a major reason why F1 is so popular? We can all get the same F1 experience by reading about it in magazines or on the Internet? The written description of the standing start, passes for position and crashes are just as good as watching it on TV?
