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Velo d’Or 2023

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Who will win?

  • MVDP

    Votes: 63 37.3%
  • Vingo

    Votes: 26 15.4%
  • Roglic

    Votes: 13 7.7%
  • Pog

    Votes: 56 33.1%
  • Remco

    Votes: 5 3.0%
  • It's over. It absolutely, positively, definitely has to be MVDP

    Votes: 3 1.8%
  • Ok, they gave it to Cringegard, like I give a ***

    Votes: 2 1.2%
  • Froome

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Rackham

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Netserk

    Votes: 1 0.6%

  • Total voters
    169
Fair enough, that's true. But like you said, if that was done today, it would probably be honured differently.

Contador at the top that year seems bizarre. He only won the Tour (and PN) and he only won it because someone else was sent home.
I think they just didn't want Di Luca on the list, IIRC he was implicated in some doping scandal which somehow didn't lose him the Giro but did get him a really short ban but he got sorta blacklisted as he moved down to a pro conti team a year later.

Cancellara's 2007 case is super weak as well, basically nothing aside from WC ITT and 2 TdF stages. Bettini basically only WC, so nobody apart from Di Luca had a good case in 2007.

Meanwhile Cancellara getting 2nd in 2008 over Sastre is weird to me as well.
 
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It doesn't have to be for his dominance to mean less
I suppose not, but it is tough to be consistant with these things, for example if Pogi had DNS'ed before the ITT in the Tour, Vingegaard with the same effort would look less impressive or some might figure that Pogi's sub-optimal prep means Vingegaard's dominance is about the same as Nibbles in 2014 because Pogi wasn't 100% anyway.
Obvisously there are good counter arguments and yeah that's what makes it fun to debate which dominance was more dominant.

It is all very academic because thankfully the riders are riding to get the best possible results out of the bike races they participate in and not improving their odds at winning Vel d'Or.
 
It beggars belief that a 10 time World Champion and an Olympic champion has never won it......The cycling journalists really need to take their road tinted glasses off from time to time.
Pidcock winning Olympic MTB gold as a part-timer against the 'specialists' when he can rarely beat Van der Poel and Van Aert on the road or in CX really should tell you all you need to know about which discipline has the biggest talents, and hence the relative prestige of a non-road world or Olympic title. IMO a monument is far more valuable than any singular achievement away from the road, let alone a GT win, and therefore somebody who doesn't win anything big on the road should never be even remotely close to a Vélo d'Or.
 
The new 5th monument classica san sebastian 🤣
Some remco fan told me that pogacar being unbeaten in lombardia didn't mean anything, because lombardia it's a small end of season race where most top riders don't go or have already stopped training because its off season.

I guess this means it should be replaced as a monument by classica San sebastian, the biggest race of the summer period where everyone is in top form. This race is proof that remco is the greatest of the world, whilst pogacar and vinegaard only target small races.

OMG, are you two the same guy? Making the same jokes and the only ones laughing is you two? It would explain a few things.
Don't think we are the same guy. He is fan of froome and vingegard, I'm fan of neither although I wish froome hit a better level post-crash. Don't think he is a landa fan either. But we should all just have more fun here. What's the point of posting
 
Some remco fan told me that pogacar being unbeaten in lombardia didn't mean anything, because lombardia it's a small end of season race where most top riders don't go or have already stopped training because its off season.

I guess this means it should be replaced as a monument by classica San sebastian, the biggest race of the summer period where everyone is in top form. This race is proof that remco is the greatest of the world, whilst pogacar and vinegaard only target small races.


Don't think we are the same guy. He is fan of froome and vingegard, I'm fan of neither although I wish froome hit a better level post-crash. Don't think he is a landa fan either. But we should all just have more fun here. What's the point of posting
Pogacar, Vingegaard and van der poel are cowards that's doesn't go to mythical classica san sebastian because they are afraid of remco.


Logic is too serious, but uncounsciously due to his hilarious beliefs about remco, says some jokes that we take advantage.


I don't really care about pogacar, i think that was very clearly during the tour. I'm a vingegaard and van der poel fan. So i can free say my opinion without wishfull thinking. Guys like @Peyroteo94 and @Krzysztof_O know this very well.

Pogacar is the best one day racer in the world, and the most complete rider in the world.
The only guy that has some business with pogacar, is vingegaard, the best GT rider in the world.
 
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There's still a lot of races ahead that can decide the outcome. There are 5 candidates IMO:
Pogacar has had a great classics campaign (and generally ridiculous spring) plus a strong TdF showing: sure, he lost to Vinge but who wouldn't? His position is better than last year due to Flandres but Lombardy victory would make his campaign 2023 even better. For now he's probably #1 favourite.
Vingegaard's position is also stronger than last year due to spectacular wins in Basque Country and Dauphine. If he wins the Vuelta the prize is his. If he gets the podium his chances are good as well.
Evenepoel still has strong cards to play (esp WC RR and Vuelta). If he wins one of them then he is in contention. If he wins both then his chances are big.
MVP has won two monuments this season. This is huge. He wasn't that strong for the rest of the season but WC victory would make him a big candidate.
If Roglic wins the Vuelta then his chances rise but will it be enough to win? Maybe not.
 
There's still a lot of races ahead that can decide the outcome. There are 5 candidates IMO:
Pogacar has had a great classics campaign (and generally ridiculous spring) plus a strong TdF showing: sure, he lost to Vinge but who wouldn't? His position is better than last year due to Flandres but Lombardy victory would make his campaign 2023 even better. For now he's probably #1 favourite.
Vingegaard's position is also stronger than last year due to spectacular wins in Basque Country and Dauphine. If he wins the Vuelta the prize is his. If he gets the podium his chances are good as well.
Evenepoel still has strong cards to play (esp WC RR and Vuelta). If he wins one of them then he is in contention. If he wins both then his chances are big.
MVP has won two monuments this season. This is huge. He wasn't that strong for the rest of the season but WC victory would make him a big candidate.
If Roglic wins the Vuelta then his chances rise but will it be enough to win? Maybe not.
You forgot WvA.

When he gives the WC away to either Laporte (his team mate), Evenepoel (his national team's team mate) or MvdP (just like he gave away all those other races where he became 2nd and MvdP 1st, because WvA knows that he needed to create a rivalry so he gets more publicity), people will finally realize WvA is the most generous rider in the pro peloton. I mean, he already gave away last year's TdF to Vingegaard when he could have easily won himself. This year he didn't want to create too much controversy and just soft-pedalled most of the Tour to give Vingegaard some breathing room, and a fair chance to develop his own (obviously staged) rivalry with Pogacar, all for Netflix ofcourse.