Teams & Riders Vincenzo Nibali discussion thread

[Mayomaniac]

This really feels like 2012 Basso to me. Nibali still has one day races, I think he can still get some results in those.
Edit: and no 2nd breakfast for Slongo anymore!

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

it's unreal Nibali is not winning a GT where the first 3 currently are Kelderman, Hindley, Hart and then Bilbao as 4th who did the TDF already....

Even Fuglsang is now ahead... shambles

 

[Scarponi]

Being 30 years old I really fear 35-36. The fall
Off in form is horrendous and I have no form to start with haha

 

[DoYouEvenRideBruh]

He lost time in the descent because he didn't push it. Why take risks when 1) you are cooked, 2) there is nothing to gain?

As for the climb itself, yeah, he held Sunweb wheels longer than expected, went deep, then did his classic instant 1 km drop.

I just wish he could have stayed with the Fuglsang/Bilbao/other dude trio. No real reason, just to make it look less bad.

Still, while his GC days are 99% over, I don't completely write him off for next year. He has repeatedly stated he has struggled a lot to find good form this year, it is not a stretch to assume that beside age it was the f*cked-up schedule that messed with him.

Also I would be interested in a power analysis, just to check how far he was from 2019 performance.

 

[Red Rick]

He lost time in the descent because he didn't push it. Why take risks when 1) you are cooked, 2) there is nothing to gain?

As for the climb itself, yeah, he held Sunweb wheels longer than expected, went deep, then did his classic instant 1 km drop.

I just wish he could have stayed with the Fuglsang/Bilbao/other dude trio. No real reason, just to make it look less bad.

Still, while his GC days are 99% over, I don't completely write him off for next year. He has repeatedly stated he has struggled a lot to find good form this year, it is not a stretch to assume that beside age it was the f*cked-up schedule that messed with him.

Also I would be interested in a power analysis, just to check how far he was from 2019 performance.

Betting he did higher W/kg than Passo Manghen.

 

[DoYouEvenRideBruh]

Breaking: reactions are in.

"The others go faster than me" - V. Nibali, Lo Squalo, after stage 18.

 

[Red Rick]

Breaking: reactions are in.

"The others go faster than me" - V. Nibali, Lo Squalo, after stage 18.

Vincenzo Nibali always sounds like the Italian lovechild of Captain Obvious and Yoda

 

[Amazinmets87]

Being 30 years old I really fear 35-36. The fall
Off in form is horrendous and I have no form to start with haha

I'm 33 and haven't noticed any drop-off in form. Major declines for men are early to mid forties. If you're a weekend warrior you won't notice much drop-off before then; it's primarily an issue for elite athletes who cant afford to lose a couple of percentage points off their performance.

 

[DoYouEvenRideBruh]

Vincenzo Nibali always sounds like the Italian lovechild of Captain Obvious and Yoda

To be fair he also basically said "I'm too old for this sh*t". Also that the finale was very fast for the maglia rosa group as well, despite the time losses.

 

[Rollthedice]

I believe with the normal calendar he would have been competitive, the build-up was going well and the lockdown rocket fuel wasn't invented yet.

 

[carolina]

Nibali passing the bag to the next generation?!

 

[Red Rick]

I believe with the normal calendar he would have been competitive, the build-up was going well and the lockdown as;ldfajksl;df

I think the first huge climbin performances were in february

 

[Red Rick]

To be fair he also basically said "I'm too old for this sh*t". Also that the finale was very fast for the maglia rosa group as well, despite the time losses.

If he's literally saying he's too old for this *** then I don't have much hopes for 2021.

 

[DoYouEvenRideBruh]

I think the first huge climbin performances were in february

Quintana? Btw wasn't his team also under investigation in TdF. Ok, I'm sure there is a clinic thread about this I haven't been bothered to check.

 

[Red Rick]

Quintana? Btw wasn't his team also under investigation in TdF. Ok, I'm sure there is a clinic thread about this I haven't been bothered to check.

Quintana was flying like crazy and Yates dropped a huge bomb in UAE

 

[DoYouEvenRideBruh]

If he's literally saying he's too old for this *** then I don't have much hopes for 2021.

Nah, not quite literally. He said something like this: "there is a generational renewal, it is evident the others have their birthdates as an advantage. I believe I am the only one born in 1984 who is fighting with the best. The year has been hard and complicated for everybody."

 

[Red Rick]

Nah, not quite literally. He said something like this: "there is a generational renewal, it is evident the others have their birthdates as an advantage. I believe I am the only one born in 1984 who is fighting with the best. The year has been hard and complicated for everybody."

The sick shade on Andy Schleck

Oh *** Schleck's from 85.

 

[Rollthedice]

Quintana was flying like crazy and Yates dropped a huge bomb in UAE

Forgot about Adam and Nairo. Anyway apart from Captain Yoda and Obvious, he did drop a number today regarding performances but it was related to Piancavallo, Jai doing 1850 VAM, so they are going faster, nothing to do.

 

[Red Rick]

Forgot about Adam and Nairo. Anyway apart from Captain Yoda and Obvious, he did drop a number today regarding performances but it was related to Piancavallo, Jai doing 1850 VAM, so they are going faster, nothing to do.

How far was Nibbles back on the top of the Stelvio today?

 

[DoYouEvenRideBruh]

How far was Nibbles back on the top of the Stelvio today?

If I recall correctly it was 2'33''

 

[McEwen2006]

I wanted Nibali to have one last crack at the TDF GC but days like this one make me realize it's definitely not happening. In the past 5 years, he attempted to win the Tour only once (in 2018) and sadly he had that terrible injury...

 

[DoYouEvenRideBruh]

I wanted Nibali to have one last crack at the TDF GC but days like this one make me realize it's definitely not happening. In the past 5 years, he attempted to win the Tour only once (in 2018) and sadly he had that terrible injury...

He was looking very good in 2018 TdF. In general he was always in top shape for all GTs he targeted, that's why this season's performance looks so terrible.

Btw crazy how 2 years feel so long in sports. Back then we had Nibbles contending the Tour and winning MSR and Froome pulling one of the craziest GC performances to win the Giro. In 2020 Froome loses 30' in three stages and the Shark struggles to remain within the top 10 of the Corsa Rosa.

 

[Forever The Best]

Quintana was flying like crazy and Yates dropped a huge bomb in UAE

I remember Pogacar going very fast too, either in UAE or Valencia.

 

[Red Rick]

If I recall correctly it was 2'33''

That's 1543 VAM. That is basically what he did on Lombarde 2016, while this is with blowing up, for longer, at higher altitude. Lombarde 2016 was 1550 for 55 minutes. Umbrail 2017 was 1580 for 42 minutes at a steeper climb

 

[DoYouEvenRideBruh]

That's 1543 VAM. That is basically what he did on Lombarde 2016, while this is with blowing up, for longer, at higher altitude. Lombarde 2016 was 1550 for 55 minutes. Umbrail 2017 was 1580 for 42 minutes at a steeper climb

So not terrible but no more competitive.