Volta a Portugal 2016 (2.1, 27.07./07.08.)

[BigMac]

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Hugh Carthy also included. This is going to be brutal. Vamos Egan!

neither of them is on the final startlist though. Bernal is in Colombia to prepare for l'Avenir, no idea about Carthy

Carthy raced in the Basque country a few days ago, so he might be available. Would be a nice change to see believable guys racing

This comment is slightly ignorant. And doesn't belong here too.

 

[BalearicBeats]

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Hugh Carthy also included. This is going to be brutal. Vamos Egan!

neither of them is on the final startlist though. Bernal is in Colombia to prepare for l'Avenir, no idea about Carthy

Carthy raced in the Basque country a few days ago, so he might be available. Would be a nice change to see believable guys racing

This comment is slightly ignorant. And doesn't belong here too.

It is, I'm just joking (and not the first one to do so in this thread).

 

[scurrrr]

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Hugh Carthy also included. This is going to be brutal. Vamos Egan!

neither of them is on the final startlist though. Bernal is in Colombia to prepare for l'Avenir, no idea about Carthy

Carthy raced in the Basque country a few days ago, so he might be available. Would be a nice change to see believable guys racing

This comment is slightly ignorant. And doesn't belong here too.

It is, I'm just joking (and not the first one to do so in this thread).

I wasn't joking!!

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

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My Cannondale bias will make me rooting for Drapac here, Canty especially.

Some interesting names on startlist.

I think Canty will struggle here, they put out some massive numbers on the climbs in Portugal

Clinical reasons, right?

Yep

nope

 

[TMP402]

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My Cannondale bias will make me rooting for Drapac here, Canty especially.

Some interesting names on startlist.

I think Canty will struggle here, they put out some massive numbers on the climbs in Portugal

Clinical reasons, right?

Yep

nope

Please expand.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

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My Cannondale bias will make me rooting for Drapac here, Canty especially.

Some interesting names on startlist.

I think Canty will struggle here, they put out some massive numbers on the climbs in Portugal

Clinical reasons, right?

Yep

nope[/quote]

Please expand.[/quote]
portugese cycling scene was cleaned up big time, starting in 2009. since then the results have been normal. I mean last year alto torre. please provide me evidence of these ridiculous watt numbers because I don't believe it at all. back when they were doping the gaps were monstrous, which is usually an indication of doping anyway. huge differences in level. well these are gone. last year torre the top 10 were within 20 seconds or so

 

[BigMac]

He's probably talking about the Senhora da Graça climb last year which provided some huge numbers, but the rest of the Volta seemed rather normal.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

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He's probably talking about the Senhora da Graça climb last year which provided some huge numbers, but the rest of the Volta seemed rather normal.

the senhora de graca climb is a short and pretty easy climb which always results in small timegaps except in the dopingera

 

[StryderHells]

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He's probably talking about the Senhora da Graça climb last year which provided some huge numbers, but the rest of the Volta seemed rather normal.

I don't really want to stray to far into this here (shouldn't of said anything in the first place) because I know it's not allowed but that stage did spark my interest. I will leave it alone now

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

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He's probably talking about the Senhora da Graça climb last year which provided some huge numbers, but the rest of the Volta seemed rather normal.

I don't really want to stray to far into this here (shouldn't of said anything in the first place) because I know it's not allowed but that stage did spark my interest. I will leave it alone now

then I'm sure you never saw cycling of the portugese scene of the 2000-2007 era. one has to only look at the alto de torre 2007 climb of david blanco to know what I mean

 

[Libertine Seguros]

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He's probably talking about the Senhora da Graça climb last year which provided some huge numbers, but the rest of the Volta seemed rather normal.

the senhora de graca climb is a short and pretty easy climb which always results in small timegaps except in the dopingera

it wasn't the timegaps it was the power numbers that caused the attention.

Anyway, A Grande is here! With Délio now having got out to France and no Torre MTF, this will be the best chance to dethrone César I think. Unfortunately it also means the race is more well suited to Horner, hopefully age finally catches up with him. That said, it should be good for Joni too with this route. Nocentini's in good form though, and you can't rule out Marque either, though he's seemed a level below since his brief flirtation with the top level. Hoping for Antunes to kick on, LA are my favourite of the domestic teams.

I like the look of the Caja Rural squad but their ability to impact the GC will probably depend on who's going to also do the Vuelta, remembering LLS a couple of years ago where he looked great for a bit but was still building form so ran out of gas before the end of the race. They along with probably Belda are likely the most dangerous outsiders for the GC, but I can see Vigano and Gavazzi definitely contending for stages, maybe some of the Drapac guys too.

 

[jens_attacks]

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My Cannondale bias will make me rooting for Drapac here, Canty especially.

Some interesting names on startlist.

I think Canty will struggle here, they put out some massive numbers on the climbs in Portugal

Clinical reasons, right?

Yep

nope

Please expand.[/quote]
portugese cycling scene was cleaned up big time, starting in 2009. since then the results have been normal. I mean last year alto torre. please provide me evidence of these ridiculous watt numbers because I don't believe it at all. back when they were doping the gaps were monstrous, which is usually an indication of doping anyway. huge differences in level. well these are gone. last year torre the top 10 were within 20 seconds or so[/quote]

Hahahha

I hope veloso will be under attack this year. Going with brandao
My heart always with mythical rui sousa.

 

[Max Rockatansky]

Can you or a mod update the OP with all profiles, please?

Done.

 

[May0maniac]

Am I the only one who thinks that the Funvic guys could be competitive? Diniz and João Gaspar ( last year he finished 2nd behind his teammate Kleber Ramos on the queenstage of the Tour de Rio, ahead of Sevilla and Veloso, riding as a stagiaire for Funvic) could do something, and Flavio Santos is just Flavio Santos. Kleber Ramos and Murilo Affonso aren't riding, but they still have a strong team and I think that riding the Volta is a big deal for the team.
PS: Murilo Fischer getting a spot on in the Olympic RR team over Diniz is a joke.

 

[FilipeFD]

final riders list

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoS-XO6WYAAtPGn.jpg

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

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Am I the only one who thinks that the Funvic guys could be competitive? Diniz and João Gaspar ( last year he finished 2nd behind his teammate Kleber Ramos on the queenstage of the Tour de Rio, ahead of Sevilla and Veloso, riding as a stagiaire for Funvic) could do something, and Flavio Santos is just Flavio Santos. Kleber Ramos and Murilo Affonso aren't riding, but they still have a strong team and I think that riding the Volta is a big deal for the team.
PS: Murilo Fischer getting a spot on in the Olympic RR team over Diniz is a joke.

the funvic guys usually really suck outside of america.

 

[BigMac]

Can you or a mod update the OP with all profiles, please?

Done.

Thank you!

 

[May0maniac]

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Am I the only one who thinks that the Funvic guys could be competitive? Diniz and João Gaspar ( last year he finished 2nd behind his teammate Kleber Ramos on the queenstage of the Tour de Rio, ahead of Sevilla and Veloso, riding as a stagiaire for Funvic) could do something, and Flavio Santos is just Flavio Santos. Kleber Ramos and Murilo Affonso aren't riding, but they still have a strong team and I think that riding the Volta is a big deal for the team.
PS: Murilo Fischer getting a spot on in the Olympic RR team over Diniz is a joke.

the funvic guys usually really suck outside of america.

Yeah, usually they do, but I still have some hope.

 

[Pricey_sky]

Can you or a mod update the OP with all profiles, please?

Done.

Thank you!

I've also added the full startlist to the OP so its easier for people to check.

 

[BigMac]

Cheers Pricey!

 

[tristecsinamigos]

Why no Egan Bernal on the starlist?

 

[StryderHells]

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Why no Egan Bernal on the starlist?

He's back home in Colombia preparing for l'Avenir

 

[BigMac]

Live here: http://www.rtp.pt/play/direto/rtp3 at 14:55 GMT and 15:55 CET.

Coverage switches here: http://www.rtp.pt/play/direto/rtp1 16:00 GMT and 17:00 CET.

 

[Ricco']

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Why no Egan Bernal on the starlist?

Physical problems after Sibiu.

http://www.ciclismoblog.it/news/47458/androni-sidermec-trasferte-in-spagna-e-portogallo/

 

[BigMac]

Check times here: http://www.classificacoes.net/modalidades/ciclismo/78-volta-a-portugal-santander-totta/835#live.

They're usually up very, very fast. Like, the moment the rider crosses the line.