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rm7 said:
HelloDolly said:
SKY did not go well in that race ....

As I said earlier ...the 3 leaders policy is a bit much.....Poels or Thomas needs to be sacrificed earlier

But also obvious the Froome not feeling top so they probably did not hammer it because of that.....bad result though for them

Great turn of speed by Dan Martin
Thought last night it would between him , Porte (who is also not top) , Bardet & Contador

Contador needs to attack earlier tomorrow ...but SKY will come out swinging

Hope Dan holds on to be honest

No he doesn't. SKY will try to win the race with Froome, and Martin will drop at some point. Just need to follow wheels, and attack in the last km or so.


Dan Martin won;t be dropped early and mayeb not at all from the main contenders ...the guy can climb
Secondly Contador needs ot go early because he needs to ensure he drops SKY ....can not be sure he willunless he hammers home his advantage and also cannot be sure he will dismiss Martin so easily
 
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I'll need to watch it again once the highlights come out, but I think AC was on Froome's wheel when Martin attacked. He obviously thought (and rightly so) that Froome was the man to follow. I think he stayed on Froome's wheel for to long.

I don't think Froome was as bad as some think. He was right up there - No not as strong as he will be in July, but neither are the others. He could still do something tomorrow.
 
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luckyboy said:
WheelofGear said:
HelloDolly said:
Contador needs to attack earlier tomorrow ...but SKY will come out swinging

Why? He just need to follow wheels and he has the whole thing in his bag.

We are talking about Contador..

Yes, but he has proven he can be patient and just follow, attacking only in the final moments (think 2014 Vuelta). If he's going for the overall victory, he can't go to early - Sky will just reel him back in.
 
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HelloDolly said:
rm7 said:
HelloDolly said:
SKY did not go well in that race ....

As I said earlier ...the 3 leaders policy is a bit much.....Poels or Thomas needs to be sacrificed earlier

But also obvious the Froome not feeling top so they probably did not hammer it because of that.....bad result though for them

Great turn of speed by Dan Martin
Thought last night it would between him , Porte (who is also not top) , Bardet & Contador

Contador needs to attack earlier tomorrow ...but SKY will come out swinging

Hope Dan holds on to be honest

No he doesn't. SKY will try to win the race with Froome, and Martin will drop at some point. Just need to follow wheels, and attack in the last km or so.


Dan Martin won;t be dropped early and mayeb not at all from the main contenders ...the guy can climb
Secondly Contador needs ot go early because he needs to ensure he drops SKY ....can not be sure he willunless he hammers home his advantage and also cannot be sure he will dismiss Martin so easily


Martin can't climb
Contador doesn't need to go early
He doesn't need to ensure he drops Sky
The best way of hammering his advantage home is to follow wheels and twist the knife if the situation presents itself
He can dismiss Martin easily on a climb.
 
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Re: Re:

HelloDolly said:
rm7 said:
HelloDolly said:
SKY did not go well in that race ....

As I said earlier ...the 3 leaders policy is a bit much.....Poels or Thomas needs to be sacrificed earlier

But also obvious the Froome not feeling top so they probably did not hammer it because of that.....bad result though for them

Great turn of speed by Dan Martin
Thought last night it would between him , Porte (who is also not top) , Bardet & Contador

Contador needs to attack earlier tomorrow ...but SKY will come out swinging

Hope Dan holds on to be honest

No he doesn't. SKY will try to win the race with Froome, and Martin will drop at some point. Just need to follow wheels, and attack in the last km or so.


Dan Martin won;t be dropped early and mayeb not at all from the main contenders ...the guy can climb
Secondly Contador needs ot go early because he needs to ensure he drops SKY ....can not be sure he willunless he hammers home his advantage and also cannot be sure he will dismiss Martin so easily
Martin isnt as good as contador on hard climbs and only has a small advantage so he doesnt have to attack early to beat him. And froome is even behind AC so I really dont understand why he should take any risks to drop him
 
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Tomorrow, i think Contador willl attack at km 15 or 17. IHe does not need to attack too early to drop Martin and co

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Martin shouldn't be a big deal. The guy is a puncheur.

And Contador doesn't need to attack. If he feels really great, he can attack in the second to last kilometre.
 
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HelloDolly said:
SKY did not go well in that race ....

As I said earlier ...the 3 leaders policy is a bit much.....Poels or Thomas needs to be sacrificed earlier

But also obvious the Froome not feeling top so they probably did not hammer it because of that.....bad result though for them

Great turn of speed by Dan Martin
Thought last night it would between him , Porte (who is also not top) , Bardet & Contador

Contador needs to attack earlier tomorrow ...but SKY will come out swinging

Hope Dan holds on to be honest

You need to have the legs to come out swinging. Sure, he might go better tomorrow but Contador looked significantly stronger and today's finish wasn't exactly great for him either.

Still, I'm not too concerned by Froome's form. He said he wanted a quieter build up and he hasn't been to Teide yet. The biggest concern is that Contador might well have his 2014 legs and that spells trouble for July.
 
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HelloDolly said:
rm7 said:
HelloDolly said:
SKY did not go well in that race ....

As I said earlier ...the 3 leaders policy is a bit much.....Poels or Thomas needs to be sacrificed earlier

But also obvious the Froome not feeling top so they probably did not hammer it because of that.....bad result though for them

Great turn of speed by Dan Martin
Thought last night it would between him , Porte (who is also not top) , Bardet & Contador

Contador needs to attack earlier tomorrow ...but SKY will come out swinging

Hope Dan holds on to be honest

No he doesn't. SKY will try to win the race with Froome, and Martin will drop at some point. Just need to follow wheels, and attack in the last km or so.


Dan Martin won;t be dropped early and mayeb not at all from the main contenders ...the guy can climb
Secondly Contador needs ot go early because he needs to ensure he drops SKY ....can not be sure he willunless he hammers home his advantage and also cannot be sure he will dismiss Martin so easily

I'm not sure if Contador goes early is a wise choice either. Time and time has been proven that if sky still has their mountain goat upfront and drilling a high pace, they will catch Contador. It was proof already on PN, even with G almost hanging by the thread. Most of the time, Contador is the one that's lost. I think, he should use sky train to get ride of most of his opponent. Tomorrow is a proper mountain, so there won't be a lot of rider. Unless he did exactly like PN. But his team is weaker than the PN team.
 
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CheckMyPecs said:
For all those rubbishing Martin's chances, remember who won the Port Ainé stage in 2013.

He won from a breakaway. I doubt he can handle the big guys
 
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Of course Martin can climb very well. He's just not one of the top three climbers in the world and Contador is. So all things being roughly equal in terms of form, which they probably are as both seem good without being at a peak, Contador should be very confident that he can get rid of him on a 20 km long climb. Just as Martin should be very confident that he can drop Contador on any puncheur type charge.

The only rider Contador will be wary of is Froome.
 
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WheelofGear said:
Martin shouldn't be a big deal. The guy is a puncheur.

And Contador doesn't need to attack. If he feels really great, he can attack in the second to last kilometre.
This. Martin is a 2nd tier climber, who only wins harder mountain stages, if the group of favourites let him win. He's very explosive and that is the only reason he kept off Alberto today. Tomorrow he will be 8th or 10th on Port Aine.
 
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1MARTINDanielEtixx - Quick Step660505:00:27
2CONTADORAlbertoTinkoff425300:02
3BARDETRomainAG2R La Mondiale21018,,
4VAN GARDERENTejayBMC Racing Team1 13,,
5PORTERichieBMC Racing Team1 100:09
6QUINTANANairoMovistar Team 7,,
7FORMOLODavideCannondale Pro Cycling Team 40:11
8ZAKARINIlnurTeam Katusha 30:12
9FROOMEChristopherTeam Sky 2,,
10CARTHYHughCaja Rural - Seguros RGA 10:18
11URANRigobertoCannondale Pro Cycling Team ,,
12VERONACarlosEtixx - Quick Step ,,
13THOMASGeraintTeam Sky ,,
14NIEVEMikelTeam Sky ,,
15NAVARRODanielCofidis, Solutions Crédits ,,
16RODRÍGUEZJoaquimTeam Katusha ,,
17POELSWoutTeam Sky 0:22
18DEGANDThomasWanty - Groupe Gobert ,,
19PANTANOJarlinsonIAM Cycling ,,
20KUDUSMerhawiDimension Data ,,
21WOODSMichaelCannondale Pro Cycling Team ,,
22KRUIJSWIJKStevenTeam LottoNL - Jumbo ,,
23ARUFabioAstana Pro Team ,,
24DE CLERCQBartLotto Soudal ,,
25WARBASSELarryIAM Cycling 0:28
26ROGLIČPrimožTeam LottoNL - Jumbo ,,
27ATAPUMAJohn DarwinBMC Racing Team ,,
28FRANKMathiasIAM Cycling ,,
29CHAVESJohan EstebanOrica GreenEDGE ,,
30POZZOVIVODomenicoAG2R La Mondiale ,,