Vuelta 2012, Stage 16: Gijón > Cuitu Nigru (183,5 kms)

[LaFlorecita]

Purito seemed to be the only rider who knew this.

How many in total?

This would be the GC minus bonus seconds.
Alberto
Purito +14"

 

[Peccio89]

please organizer stop with this supersteep nonsense, it was a great last climb till the final 3 km began.

I agree with the fact that Fuente De is where Contador can gain more because the gradient suits him much more. Even in 11' Giro Contador suffered a bit on Zoncolan.

However i have to say that i didn't expect Purito to hold on after -6km accelleration.

 

[ggusta]

well there is a thread in clinic, vent your frustrations there like i do

geez dude, the post was up for less than a minute before I deleted it.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

please organizer stop with this supersteep nonsense, it was a great last climb till the final 3 km began.

I agree with the fact that Fuente De is where Contador can gain more because the gradient suits him much more. Even in 11' Giro Contador suffered a bit on Zoncolan.

However i have to say that i didn't expect Purito to hold on after -6km accelleration.

contador should have attacked way earlier. it's his own fault. all or nothing

 

[LaFlorecita]

:S he is following contadors tacctics from when he beat levi in the vuelta then ... it seems to work well

You are right. I'm not complaining about them. People just shouldn't say Purito is the better climber just because he is ahead on the GC. He's the better sprinter, that's why he gets all those bonus seconds.

 

[Frosty]

1st and 2nd in same year GT (3 wins La Vuelta) >>>>>> 1st in GT (0 wins TdF)

Pretty sure Wiggins won a time trial in the tour as well as leading out Cavendish (although he did slow down Froome as well...). Paris-Nice, Tour du Romandie, Dauphine

 

[LaFlorecita]

Sure, but I'm under the impression that had Contador done a Purito style attack at 300 meters from the finish line and managed to take some seconds from Purito, you wouldn't have called it an "uphill sprint", but the best attack ever in cycling history.

Of course not.

 

[Parrulo]

geez dude, the post was up for less than a minute before I deleted it.

evil mods see everything

i have a question tho,

what do you guys think, will contador get stronger or weaker heading towards the last weekend?

 

[El Pistolero]

Sorry but for me giro 2nd, vuelta win, 6 gt stage wins, flèche wallone and 2nd at basque is pretty friggin good season, better then boonens.

Still the worlds to come too.

It's not though. He came second to Hesjedal, woooh. That's like Boonen losing to Turgot.

 

[hrotha]

contador should have attacked way earlier. it's his own fault. all or nothing

Indeed. I thought he should have attacked earlier, or at least upped the pace much more. At least when he attacked this time he tried to sustain it, but he stopped after a kilometer and a half or so. I hope he blows himself up at the Bola, attacking from the bottom, but maybe by then Dani Moreno will be great again and he won't have another chance like today.

 

[Paco_P]

contador should have attacked way earlier. it's his own fault. all or nothing

Contador made a brutal attack. Rodriguez stayed with him. Contador made another one. Rodriguez beat him up the last hill. They were both very impressive and both are clearly riding to win the whole thing. What the hell else can you want?

 

[LaFlorecita]

I think what he is saying is that just because JRod "sprinted" away at the end, does not transform this final climb into an uphill sprint.

But who thinks that way anyway We don't call flat stages sprints right? My point is that Purito creates a gap just by sprinting the last 100 meters.

 

[cineteq]

Pretty sure Wiggins won a time trial in the tour as well as leading out Cavendish (although he did slow down Froome as well...). Paris-Nice, Tour du Romandie, Dauphine

Well, you see I completely overlooked it. Are ITT considered proper wins?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Contador made a brutal attack. Rodriguez stayed with him. Contador made another one. Rodriguez beat him up the last hill. They were both very impressive and both are clearly riding to win the whole thing. What the hell else can you want?

they were all in teh final 4 km. idiot tactics of contador. clealry he doesn't believe in it himself anymore

 

[LaFlorecita]

evil mods see everything

i have a question tho,

what do you guys think, will contador get stronger or weaker heading towards the last weekend?

Weaker, he's getting tired of course (just like everyone else)

 

[ManInFull]

One thing you should keep in mind is that he is only ahead because of the bonus seconds.

That does not matter. He's racing the course that was put out in front of him and he is performing better than AC. And yes, I am a big fan of AC and I had hoped that he would win the Vuelta. But, he's been unable to dislodge Purito--heck he can't even win a stage. The finish has been too steep, he's misjudged the remaining distance before attacking, etc. Purito is simply better right now.

 

[El Pistolero]

Well, you see I completely overlooked it. Are ITT considered proper wins?

It's better than Purito's uphill sprint wins. He won 2 time trials by the way.

Anyway, only wins count for great champions. The simple fact that you need to include his second places is very telling to me.

 

[No_Balls]

Absolutely. This race was designed for a climber and Purito has proven to be the best.

Is there any chance that ASO will create a similar route for next year's 100th TdF?

evil mods see everything

i have a question tho,

what do you guys think, will contador get stronger or weaker heading towards the last weekend?

It is all in the head. Logically he should be stronger but then again he has put in a massive effort in a number of days. Only to lose more time from when he started. But overall i would say he is getting stronger. Today he started from far away and that was a good sign.

 

[ggusta]

evil mods see everything

Yes, I understand, but you are the likely the only one who did and you are the only one who responded.

i have a question tho,

what do you guys think, will contador get stronger or weaker heading towards the last weekend?

he'll probably get a little stronger not much, but what I have been saying since Saturday is that it's not a question of AC getting stronger but a question of JR getting weaker and that is not happening. Nor do I think it will happen sufficiently, if at all, for AC to get enough time back.

MODERATE THAT!

 

[LaFlorecita]

they were all in teh final 4 km. idiot tactics of contador. clealry he doesn't believe in it himself anymore

Now let me ask you a question: Why in hell's name would he do that? He'd only crack himself.

 

[Peccio89]

contador should have attacked way earlier. it's his own fault. all or nothing

Yeah but he attacked in the correct way at least today, trying to sustain the pace.

I think he was a little afraid to remain with no energy in last 3km, so he just waited for the second segment of the climb to go with the acceleration.

 

[cineteq]

It's better than Purito's uphill sprint wins. He won 2 time trials by the way.

Take two. Well, you see I completely overlooked it. Are ITT considered proper wins?

 

[LaFlorecita]

That does not matter. He's racing the course that was put out in front of him and he is performing better than AC. And yes, I am a big fan of AC and I had hoped that he would win the Vuelta. But, he's been unable to dislodge Purito--heck he can't even win a stage. The finish has been too steep, he's misjudged the remaining distance before attacking, etc. Purito is simply better right now.

No. He is NOT better. They're equal ffs!

 

[iZnoGouD]

they were all in teh final 4 km. idiot tactics of contador. clealry he doesn't believe in it himself anymore

i give you contador strenght, now go do better than himself...
it's easy to talk but not so easy to do it
Purito improved a lot while Contador has gotten worse, i believe he couldn't have done better than he did
we just have to hope that Contador will be stronger in Bola del Mundo

 

[Publicus]

Yes, I understand, but you are the likely the only one who did and you are the only one who responded.



he'll probably get a little stronger not much, but what I have been saying since Saturday is that it's not a question of AC getting stronger but a question of JR getting weaker and that is not happening. Nor do I think it will happen sufficiently, if at all, for AC to get enough time back.

MODERATE THAT!

Agree with you on AC. He'll get stronger, but I don't see JRod weakening at any point. We'll see after the rest day. There is an uphill finish right? The legs always respond weirdly after a rest day followed by a mountain (though I think it is only a Cat 2).