Vuelta 2014 route rumours

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Libertine Seguros said:
I've seen a rumour that La Linea de la Concepción will host a stage, either a start or a finish.

If so, I might assume that Guillén is angling for a stage start with the previous stage to finish climbing the Rock of Gibraltar, no?

The Guardia Civil will stop teams on their way out of Gibraltar searching for illegal substances inside their bikes' frames.

I'd rather watch a stage finish at Tarifa after riding along the Atlantic coast facing strong Levante wind.
 
icefire said:
The Guardia Civil will stop teams on their way out of Gibraltar searching for illegal substances inside their bikes' frames.

I'd rather watch a stage finish at Tarifa after riding along the Atlantic coast facing strong Levante wind.

That would be good, I was being a bit flippant about Guillén's love of that kind of finish, since the Muro Llanito is absolutely brutal. Long stretches of 25%.

I think actually a really good stage would be Cadiz to Algeciras, all along the coast against the Levante wind, then from Tarifa turning over Puerto del Bujeo to Algeciras, meaning you have a small climb (about 1,5km at 5%, then a brief descent, then about 3km @ 5,5%) finishing 14km out and a very straightforward descent before the finish. If the wind forces selectivity then you have the climb which is not big enough that sprinters can't make it over, but big enough that if the bunches have been reduced thanks to the wind, it will make attacking more tempting, that could be a really good stage.
 
A couple more rumours from APM:

- stage 5 to finish at Sierra de la Pandera. This would make sense given the direction they are headed if beginning in Cadíz province (seemingly the racing circuit at Jerez is the likely depart). This would likely be the first major summit.
- two stages overlooking Madrid. One is to finish downhill on a descent from the Puerto de Navacerrada in La Granja de San Ildefonso, like this one from 2009:
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The finish was a slight uphill ramp if I remember correctly, and Samuel Sánchez attempted to gap Valverde at the summit, but quickly gave up when he couldn't escape on the descent, most of the contenders came back together, then Juan José Cobo escaped on the final ramp to take the win.

The other rumour is that the penultimate day would finish at Bola del Mundo as had been anticipated based on the one year on, one year off routine and that it is by far the most imposing climb that can be placed as the penultimate stage without a long transfer to Madrid.

Now, given the extreme proximity of these (and if they're doing Navacerrada before La Granja, this would mean a repeat of the same climb they did the previous day, unless they're planning on a mostly flat run-in and then Bola del Mundo from the north) this then makes me wonder if we're in for a Bola del Mundo chrono.
 
More rumours from various sources, helpfully compiled into one place by Jordi at APM.

- possible MTF at La Camperona in León. This is a rumour we had already heard, now reported in Diario de León, so seems to be gaining steam. This is a pure Unipublic wet dream, as it's almost impossible to link to any other hard climbs without at least a fairly long period of flat, and, well, just look at the last few kilometres:

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- Diario de León also confirms a stage will finish with at least one lap of the Ponferrada World Championships circuit.

- Javier Guillén has advised we will see a new side of Ancares either 2014 or 2015. Suspicions point to Pan do Zarco. However with Ancares so close to Ponferrada it seems unlikely that they would waste it on a stage finishing in Ponferrada, and also unlikely that they would cluster stage finishes so close together, so maybe 2015 it is?

- Faro de Vigo reports Vilagarcía de Arousa to host the long TT next year.

- Aragón is likely to host stages, up to three in the region according to local television. Baños de Panticosa is rumoured, possibly Cerler though.

- It is now rumoured according to a journalist at Cadena SER that after five stages in Andalucía the race will head into Extremadura, rather than to Murcía and Valencia as previously rumoured. Galicia and Asturias are guaranteed on the route.

- El Periòdic d'Andorra reports that the country has again requested to host an integral stage, although it would be unlikely to be at Collada de la Gallina. If so, I am hoping for Els Cortals d'Encamp or Vallnord Sector Arinsal.

- Sergi López-Egea has commented that there will not be any stages in Catalunya in 2014. This would make the Andorra option unlikely, unless he just means they will pass through, in which case I guess they could do somewhere like Barbastro or Graus via Coll Montllobar-Port del Cantó-Andorra, or immediately after Cerler, perhaps Benasque via Coll de Fadas-Creu de Perves-Port del Cantó-Andorra, though this would be a long stage and still have a pretty long break before the final climb.

If they are going from Andalucía to Extremadura it would then make Sierra de la Pandera unlikely to be stage 5, perhaps more likely stage 4 after the Cadíz stages? This would then suggest heading north and then the ITT in Galicia being in the middle of the route, which would make sense given the pacing of the last three Vueltas, however the La Camperona and Ponferrada stages would seem logical to place next to one another. Second weekend stages perhaps? This would then place Asturias late in the second week however, and then suggest a fairly tame closing off to the race with the Aragón stages, as these are hardly major week 3 mountaintops to compete with the recent years:

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I just don't see these as likely unless they're anticipating a stage like Fuente Dé after the rest day (which might then explain a transfer across the country, as we have had rumours around Andalucía, Extremadura, Valencia, Galicia, Asturias and León, but not much to date for the transitional areas between these and Aragón i.e. País Vasco, Navarra, La Rioja, Burgos, Soria, Cantabria).

So maybe they'll go this way first, then loop around and do Aragón, cross across to Galicia in a transfer or go via Burgos/Cantabria/Asturias, then stick La Camperona and the Worlds circuit into week 3 before the likely Bola del Mundo finale? Or maybe Extremadura, then across to Valencia for the end of week 1, north through Aragón and then over to Galicia, Asturias and León? That would make the TT very late and mean an oddly timed transfer from Aragón to the west however. Or maybe from Aragón they will head south and the Valencian mountains will be the last ones? I'd find it strange though, as they couldn't really sell something like Aitana as a big mountain showdown, and it'd put them on the wrong side for the mountains overlooking Madrid too.
 
Red Rick said:
Wait, we have a descent finish:eek:

I can add that to my list of certainties in life I can't rely on anymore

Don't be certain yet, not all of the rumours can be true because logistical sense will prevent it.

If they're doing Extremadura straight after 5 stages in Andalucía that suggests Murcía is out, because it's far too isolated to be going to from Aragón unless they're in fact doing the 3 early stages in Andalucía, going north immediately then looping all the way back around the country to do 2 more Andalucían stages near the end, which seems illogical. The Andorra rumour seems incongruous and hard to reconcile with the others, again because it's hard to get to from places rumoured without a stage beginning or ending in Catalunya, especially if they enter it from France as has been one rumour - since there are no rumours of stages starting or ending in France. I'm thinking from this latest set of rumours a mostly western route is taking shape, with nothing in the Murcía-Valencia-Catalunya area at all.

If we were to assume most of the rumours were true and put in some kind of logical order, we could end up with something along the lines of:

1 - Jerez de la Frontera ITT
2-3 Provincia de Cadíz, probably stage 3 starting in La Linea de la Concepción?
4 - Sierra de la Pandera MTF
5 - transitional stage, probably something like Jaén-Córdoba to get back towards Extremadura?
6 - Extremadura, possibly Montánchez HTF
7 - transitional Extremadura - CyL. Personally I'd like a medium mountain stage to Ávila, but that would leave a flat stage on the Saturday to follow, so probably a flat stage here
8 - La Camperona MTF
9 - Ponferrada Worlds Circuit
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10-12 Galicia, including Vilagarcia de Arousa ITT, maybe Ancares MTF?
13-15 Asturias? Presumably 2 MTFs here. Could be a transitional stage but as 15 is likely to be a weekend, probably not. Alternatively if stage 7 is tougher and 8 is transitional (or an easy mountain stage to somewhere like Laguna de los Peces, which has been rumoured for 2012 and 2013 without hosting the race yet), there could be 2 Asturias stages and one to La Camperona
rest/transfer
16-18 Aragón, probably 16 to Panticosa or Cerler then two transitional stages
19 - somewhere like Guadalajara or Aranda de Duero - La Granja de San Ildefonso
20 - Bola del Mundo (ITT?)
21 - Madrid parade

It's just too vague really. Not enough to really go on in the same way as we had with the Giro rumours. Realistically all we can say for certain is the first and last stages.
 
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How will they do it with that possible tt up Bola del Mundo? Is the road too small, especially with al the fans that will come and standing on the climb?
 
I don't think they will, it's just that we have the rumour of two stages overlooking Madrid, one being like the La Granja stage in 2009 and the other to Bola. If it isn't a flat stage to La Granja (which sounds unlikely), or a one-climb stage to Bola, then they'd be repeating themselves a lot as a lot of the climbs in the area (Navacerrada, Cotos, Morcuera, Canencia, Navafría) would probably back onto one another. I guess the alternative is to do Navafría-Morcuera N-Navacerrada S in the La Granja stage, then Navacerrada N-Abantos-León-Navacerrada S/Bola in the Bola stage. Or do the very weak Cotos as the last climb in the La Granja stage after Morcuera S, so as not to repeat Navacerrada.

It could still be thrown out and they just do one stage to Bola, which wouldn't surprise me at all. But if they can do a TT to Kronplatz, they can do a TT to Bola. The narrow/non-tarmac part is shorter at Bola for one thing.
 
Abantos? Does it have any pavement left? It looked lousy in 2007 and I would assume it hasn't really got better in the last 6 years.

Abantos to Leon road has fallen into disrepair even earlier (Collado de la Mina, I think?). Or you are thinking of another road?
 
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Arredondo said:
Great to read all this rumours, thanks a lot for the searching!

Libertine Seguros said:
It could still be thrown out and they just do one stage to Bola, which wouldn't surprise me at all. But if they can do a TT to Kronplatz, they can do a TT to Bola. The narrow/non-tarmac part is shorter at Bola for one thing.

True, if they decided to end on the Bola, then a TT would be the only solution that could me it interesting, because a third MTF on the Bola in four years is definitely to much and boring.

I really hope they will finish in Ubrique again, and hopefully the same stage like in 2002, where Aitor Gonzalez rode to Luis Perez in a fantastic way. They did a climb before (Las Palomas), and a finish in the beautiful town of Ubrique, with a nice last drag of one k. I now it's a dream, but sometimes dreams become reality;)

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roundabout said:
Abantos? Does it have any pavement left? It looked lousy in 2007 and I would assume it hasn't really got better in the last 6 years.

Abantos to Leon road has fallen into disrepair even earlier (Collado de la Mina, I think?). Or you are thinking of another road?

Google streetview has Abantos from September 2012. It doesn't look good.

Collada de la Mina from the Abantos side is no worse than Abantos is (which still isn't good, but mightn't be such a problem in a small race as it would be for la Vuelta), but from the León side it is terrible.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
Google streetview has Abantos from September 2012. It doesn't look good.

Collada de la Mina from the Abantos side is no worse than Abantos is (which still isn't good, but mightn't be such a problem in a small race as it would be for la Vuelta), but from the León side it is terrible.

Perhaps they finish again in San Lorenzo de El Escorial, at the foot of the Abantos. Another Murito stage for sure.
 
Arredondo said:
Perhaps they finish again in San Lorenzo de El Escorial, at the foot of the Abantos. Another Murito stage for sure.

If so I'd expect it to invalidate one of the La Granja/Bola rumours. Unlikely they have four stages in Comunidad de Madrid, with the final parade as well (La Granja's in Segovia, but all of the climbs of the stage would be in Madrid unless it's just León-Navacerrada, which is hardly a major mountain stage)
 
Newer rumours are that Córdoba is looking to host again, and also a puncheur finish "close to Valdepeñas de Jaén which will rival it". Two rumours as to where this may be, either Castillo de Locubín (which would be brutal with 500m averaging 17% then a flattening out) or La Guardia de Jaén (as seen in the Ruta del Sol a couple of years ago and won by Valverde).

If the latter rumour turns out to be true it would more or less invalidate the La Pandera rumour, and I'm not sure about that as bearing in mind this is La Vuelta, we don't have many rumours for MTFs yet, seemingly:

- La Pandera
- La Camperona
- Ancares, either this year or next year
- Baños de Panticosa/Cerler
- Bola del Mundo?

The Córdoba rumour makes sense and would fit with the Andalucía to Extremadura rumours, as they could then do
- Jerez - Jerez
- stage in Cadíz province
- stage starting in Cadíz province (La Linea de la Concepción?)
- stage to La Pandera or to La Guardia de Jaén or Castillo de Locubín
- classic traditional stage from Jaén to Córdoba with Alto de San Jerónimo or Alto de 14%

That would give you five stages in Andalucía then give you a fair distance to travel, but all on fast major roads, for a next stage starting in Mérida, Badajoz etc. But if the finish of stage 4 is likely to be a puncheur one, that would leave the first MTF surprisingly late, as I don't think many of the climbs in Extremadura are really suited to a mountaintop finish? There's a few tough ones like Honduras, but only really Piornal (and then, the town not the Puerto) that I'd have thought was suited to hosting a finish. So perhaps stage 3 will be an MTF or the Pandera rumours should stay?
 
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Going North from Andalucia through Extremadura the obvious candidate for the first MTF is La Covatilla, followed by Laguna de los Peces the day after.

I don't think we will get a surprise with something like this. They could even finish that with a descent to the monumental village of Guadalupe. But after all this is Unipublic.
 
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There are some rumours today in a galician newspaper, that the race might end with a tt to Santiago de Compostela.

They did this before in 1993, which was a fantastic race with a great route. Final tt in 1993 had 44 kms and was quite hilly. 43,8 km/h for the stage winner Zülle.

Please make this happen.
 
I guess that means Puerto de Ancares as the last big mountain stage? Probably through its hardest, as of yet unused side:

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Of course, until Cruz de Cespedosa. And of course, as a MTF (despite being a climb with up to four sides, all with good tarmac).
 
Sep 21, 2009
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Guillén has stated several times that his favorite side of Ancares is the one from Candín:

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So we're safer predicting a unimountain finish. If they finish at Cruz de Cespedosa that'll make a descent finish. Mind you, if they go from Andalucía to Valencia and they stop at Xorret de Catí we migth have two descent finishes :rolleyes: