Vuelta 2017 stage 9: Orihuela - Cumbres del Sol, 174 km

[deValtos]

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That drifting by Froome in La Vuelta is what created Formigal last year.

A little risky indeed but it will pay off now.

 

[hazaran]

Haha Bardet that didn't take long. No kidding he can't ITT..

 

[Valv.Piti]

Go go Marc! This is a great situation if Trek does't contribute.

 

[Asturiano]

Looks like Niballi has said he felt really great this Vuelta in fit. Suggesting the problema is the level of this Vuelta and the contenders.

 

[webvan]

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This still works for me
https://vk.com/videos430300471?z=video430300471_456239156%2Fpl_430300471_-2

Thanks but dead too?

 

[Eagle]

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This still works for me
https://vk.com/videos430300471?z=video430300471_456239156%2Fpl_430300471_-2

Thanks but dead too?

This works for me:
http://live.robinwidget.org/streamvideo8/cycling-vs-vuelta-a-espana-live-stream-4418980.html

 

[HelloDolly]

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Looks like Niballi has said he felt really great this Vuelta in fit. Suggesting the problema is the level of this Vuelta and the contenders.

yes Meintjes says the level is above the Tour ...as he is at the same level of the Tour but further back

Also others riders saying they are in their best form but not in the usual positions as level is so high

 

[TMP402]

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Froome isn't british... it is like saying those players who play handball in the qatar national team are qatarians. Froome is only a "british" just to be accept by team sky

I have no clue what he identifies as personally, but as far as I can tell, both his parents were/are (?) British citizens, surely also making him British from birth.

Non-British Europeans don't understand the British imperial mentality. There are many people who considered themselves nothing but British yet they weren't born in Britain, their parents weren't born in Britain, their grandparents weren't born in Britain, they neither lived nor died in Britain, some never even stepped foot on the island. Look at another cycling example, David Millar, born on a former British colony (Malta) and raised in a then-British colony (Hong Kong), or Jeremy Hunt, born in Canada. I personally know or have worked with British people born in Malta, New Zealand, South Africa, (West) Germany, Peru, the United States and I'm sure other places too. There's never any question of dual loyalty; this is a common experience among a certain class of the British.

 

[sir fly]

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Looks like Niballi has said he felt really great this Vuelta in fit. Suggesting the problema is the level of this Vuelta and the contenders.

yes Meintjes says the level is above the Tour ...as he is at the same level of the Tour but further back

Also others riders saying they are in their best form but not in the usual positions as level is so high

We could discuss about two kinds of level.
The level of field and performance.
I'd say the level of field is what they're referring to.

 

[DanielSong39]

Apparently the top riders are pulling out more watts in the Vuelta than in the Tour; this has yet to be confirmed, though.

 

[HelloDolly]

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Looks like Niballi has said he felt really great this Vuelta in fit. Suggesting the problema is the level of this Vuelta and the contenders.

yes Meintjes says the level is above the Tour ...as he is at the same level of the Tour but further back

Also others riders saying they are in their best form but not in the usual positions as level is so high

We could discuss about two kinds of level.
The level of field and performance.
I'd say the level of field is what they're referring to.

Not just the level of contenders (and the number ) which is true
There are also murmurings about the performance level which Meintjes meant

And Nibali meant it too

 

[sir fly]

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Looks like Niballi has said he felt really great this Vuelta in fit. Suggesting the problema is the level of this Vuelta and the contenders.

yes Meintjes says the level is above the Tour ...as he is at the same level of the Tour but further back

Also others riders saying they are in their best form but not in the usual positions as level is so high

We could discuss about two kinds of level.
The level of field and performance.
I'd say the level of field is what they're referring to.

Not just the level of contenders (and the number ) which is true
There are also murmurings about the performance level which Meintjes meant

Although surprising for me, I believe riders' claims.

 

[DanielSong39]

Meintjes may not be the best metric but I've heard at least one poster mention that the top performers were pulling over 7 watts/kg. Simply amazing, if true.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Apparently the top riders are pulling out more watts in the Vuelta than in the Tour; this has yet to be confirmed, though.

The climbs are also significantly shorter, so far, but I wouldn't be surprised if Froome was better for example and that the general level is higher. Nibali also said his watts are the highest ever so if thats true, we will be in for fireworks in the high mountains.

 

[deValtos]

Apparently the top riders are pulling out more watts in the Vuelta than in the Tour; this has yet to be confirmed, though.

The climbs are also significantly shorter, so far, but I wouldn't be surprised if Froome was better for example and that the general level is higher. Nibali also said his watts are the highest ever so if thats true, we will be in for fireworks in the high mountains.

Wait what? He says he's putting out more watts than his 2014 TDF ? :surprised:

 

[hazaran]

They are very short climbs, British hill climb amateurs pull that kind of watts.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Apparently the top riders are pulling out more watts in the Vuelta than in the Tour; this has yet to be confirmed, though.

The climbs are also significantly shorter, so far, but I wouldn't be surprised if Froome was better for example and that the general level is higher. Nibali also said his watts are the highest ever so if thats true, we will be in for fireworks in the high mountains.

Wait what? He says he's putting out more watts than his 2014 TDF ? :surprised:

He said he was on a higher level yes. But that Tour was *** weather and 30-50 min climbs and this Vuelta so far is 35 degrees and 10 minute efforts.

 

[HelloDolly]

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Meintjes may not be the best metric but I've heard at least one poster mention that the top performers were pulling over 7 watts/kg. Simply amazing, if true.

https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/900474572037918720

 

[Climbing]

Yeah, need to wait for proper climbing.

 

[Red Rick]

AIFK climbing times in the Tour and Vuelta have been relatively consistent with previous years.

 

[DanielSong39]

I see what I see and all the top riders (including Froome) simply look better in the Vuelta than the top riders in the Tour. It's possible that it's an optical illusion, but even if it is - they look great!

 

[sir fly]

Goats!

 

[DanielSong39]

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Goats!

Enjoy the show! I know I am.

 

[HelloDolly]

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They are very short climbs, British hill climb amateurs pull that kind of watts.

No they dont ....and the watts are over the whole stages not just the final climbs

Every stage has been ridden hard and fast ... not one stage has been easy ...that is what is the issue not 13 minute climbs

 

[rick james]

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Goats!

They need a good feed