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Valverde has always been better in his second Grand Tour of the season than his first.
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Valverde has always been better in his second Grand Tour of the season than his first.
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If Yates hadn't been there, there would have been a hell of a battle for the race win over the last couple of days.
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I feel more sorry for Quintana
Valverde was never going for GC at the start of the Vuelta...He also has a fantastic palmares and many wins. He will be disappointed but its not a catastrophe for him. He will bounce back on the short climbs and one day races
However Quitana was expected to win this GT (and others)...and has shown both in the Tour and this Vuelta that he is missing something.....and looks tired when compared to the youth of MAL,MAS & Yates...This is very disappointing for him and I feel sorry for him....Where can he get the answers and bounce back, Very hard psychological blow
BlackWhiteEagle said:
I feel more sorry for Quintana
Valverde was never going for GC at the start of the Vuelta...He also has a fantastic palmares and many wins. He will be disappointed but its not a catastrophe for him. He will bounce back on the short climbs and one day races
However Quitana was expected to win this GT (and others)...and has shown both in the Tour and this Vuelta that he is missing something.....and looks tired when compared to the youth of MAL,MAS & Yates...This is very disappointing for him and I feel sorry for him....Where can he get the answers and bounce back, Very hard psychological blow
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Good answer, it ok talking on here about him being the next Bertie, wouldn’t like the press to put to much pressure on him that waySquirbos_19 said:
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Missing youth. 38 year old legs might not matter so much in a classic but a three week race......only Horner has solved that problem.
HelloDolly said:
Missing youth. 38 year old legs might not matter so much in a classic but a three week race......only Horner has solved that problem.
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- Quintana still has the numbers as shown this year. To me he needs to lose some weight and maybe move to a different place where he can train properly instead of behaving like a "beauty queen" in Colombia.
- Quintana still gives Movistar their best chance to give a GT whether we like him or not.
- Mas and Lopez deserve podium.
- Happy for Yates. But it looks like he was on the limit. Maybe in harder races like the Giro and Tour he would have a very difficult time winning.
- Happy for MAS as well. Spain needs another hero.
HelloDolly said:
- Quintana still has the numbers as shown this year. To me he needs to lose some weight and maybe move to a different place where he can train properly instead of behaving like a "beauty queen" in Colombia.
- Quintana still gives Movistar their best chance to give a GT whether we like him or not.
- Mas and Lopez deserve podium.
- Happy for Yates. But it looks like he was on the limit. Maybe in harder races like the Giro and Tour he would have a very difficult time winning.
- Happy for MAS as well. Spain needs another hero.
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Yates may have emptied the tank but his winning margin was the biggest of all the grand tours. He's only 25 and he has come back well after what happened in the Giro. I think Movistar need a shake up. Maybe some new blood in management roles or something.
Escarabajo said:
Yates may have emptied the tank but his winning margin was the biggest of all the grand tours. He's only 25 and he has come back well after what happened in the Giro. I think Movistar need a shake up. Maybe some new blood in management roles or something.
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I agree about Movistar. They need to do something. Their stratedy has been horrible all year and this just even more exposed how bad it was. Granted Bala also was a bit off through out the whole race, but it really showed these last two stages. (Possible effects of not having had an off season where he could fully shut down for a couple months). But there were many mistakes throughout the whole race and this is just the latest example of what has been going on all season.
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I agree about Movistar. They need to do something. Their stratedy has been horrible all year and this just even more exposed how bad it was. Granted Bala also was a bit off through out the whole race, but it really showed these last two stages. (Possible effects of not having had an off season where he could fully shut down for a couple months). But there were many mistakes throughout the whole race and this is just the latest example of what has been going on all season.
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Aye but what happens when they face tom D at le tour because that’s the futureIndianCyclist said:
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He dropped the biggest guns for fun for much of the Giro. His level in his second GT was probably lower, but so would their’s have been. I don’t think we’ve seen anyone climbing as well as him this year when you take into account both his GT rides.
There remain question marks about his endurance over three weeks, so I’m not saying that he would definitely have won. Maybe he’d have had to go deeper and blown up again. But it seems very strange to say that it’s hard to see him winning when he was a better climber than any of them for two and a half weeks in one GT and then demonstrated that three weeks is possible for him in his second GT. It’s easy to see him winning. Maintain his Giro performance for three weeks and he wins, unless GT organisers revert to old school TT lengths.
Son of Amsterhammer said:
He dropped the biggest guns for fun for much of the Giro. His level in his second GT was probably lower, but so would their’s have been. I don’t think we’ve seen anyone climbing as well as him this year when you take into account both his GT rides.
There remain question marks about his endurance over three weeks, so I’m not saying that he would definitely have won. Maybe he’d have had to go deeper and blown up again. But it seems very strange to say that it’s hard to see him winning when he was a better climber than any of them for two and a half weeks in one GT and then demonstrated that three weeks is possible for him in his second GT. It’s easy to see him winning. Maintain his Giro performance for three weeks and he wins, unless GT organisers revert to old school TT lengths.
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