Vuelta 2018 Stage 6:Huércal Overa – San Javier 155.7km

[Armchair Cyclist]

Kirby seems determined to blame the split primarily on the bollards: I think that incident might have made the peloton slightly more linear (and therefore more vulnerable) when the wind hit, but that the split was essentially caused by crosswinds.

85% wind, 15% crash. Thoughts?

 

[Breh]

MAL 8th
Sagan 9th
Morkov 10th
Nizzolo 11th

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

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Wish Kelderman would just abandon the GC and try for stages

wtf, he was 4th last year. Why would he abandon GC after he is thrown back after a flat tire?

That's just crazy talk

 

[Hakkapelit]

Dunno why Mörköv was chilling in the back for so long, impossible task to bring Viviani to the front in less than a km even tho the group waant that big.


Buchmann on same time even to manys said he was out ?

 

[WKA311]

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Dunno why Mörköv was chilling in the back for so long, impossible task to bring Viviani to the front in less than a km even tho the group waant that big.


Buchmann on same time even to manys said he was out ?

He was clearly to see in the first group.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re:

Kirby seems determined to blame the split primarily on the bollards: I think that incident might have made the peloton slightly more linear (and therefore more vulnerable) when the wind hit, but that the split was essentially caused by crosswinds.

85% wind, 15% crash. Thoughts?

Helped force the initial split perhaps, but definitely mainly down to the wind

 

[tobydawq]

This is the third straight stage a team win their first victory on the WorldTour this year. Pretty crazy. Prades tomorrow?

 

[Red Rick]

Re: Re:

Wish Kelderman would just abandon the GC and try for stages

wtf, he was 4th last year. Why would he abandon GC after he is thrown back after a flat tire?

That's just crazy talk

Because he's not gonna make up that much time to get top 5, much less a podium, and a stage win is a much better reward than another random top 10 spot

 

[Rollthedice]

Re: Re:

Wish Kelderman would just abandon the GC and try for stages

wtf, he was 4th last year. Why would he abandon GC after he is thrown back after a flat tire?

That's just crazy talk

Because he's not gonna make up that much time to get top 5, much less a podium, and a stage win is a much better reward than another random top 10 spot

Sunday will tell us more about that.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Re: Re:

Wish Kelderman would just abandon the GC and try for stages

wtf, he was 4th last year. Why would he abandon GC after he is thrown back after a flat tire?

That's just crazy talk

Because he's not gonna make up that much time to get top 5, much less a podium, and a stage win is a much better reward than another random top 10 spot

You don't know that. You are overreacting.

 

[Bolder]

Re: Re:

Kirby seems determined to blame the split primarily on the bollards: I think that incident might have made the peloton slightly more linear (and therefore more vulnerable) when the wind hit, but that the split was essentially caused by crosswinds.

85% wind, 15% crash. Thoughts?

Helped force the initial split perhaps, but definitely mainly down to the wind

I watched on TV and didn't really see how the road went after the crash. But I'd say the splits would not have occurred without the crash -- it was just enough to break off a group of 50 riders or so. EF-Drapac went to the front right away and that front group had the discipline to form an echelon. Two smaller groups then formed but the biggest echelon clearly had both the firepower and size advantage. Once again it shows how important it is to be near the front.

What I can't quite fathom is why FDJ wasn't riding as a team at the point of the crash. Molard made the split but their ostensible GC guy is caught in no-man's land and loses 1:30 or so...textbook move for team in red in a sprint stage is to deliver your guy safely to the 3 km mark then back off. Even if Molard has no GC chance, you still have to look out for Pinot, a guy who isn't going to take back time in a TT. Ah well, a much more exciting stage than I thought!

 

[Red Rick]

Re: Re:

Wish Kelderman would just abandon the GC and try for stages

wtf, he was 4th last year. Why would he abandon GC after he is thrown back after a flat tire?

That's just crazy talk

Because he's not gonna make up that much time to get top 5, much less a podium, and a stage win is a much better reward than another random top 10 spot

You don't know that. You are overreacting.

I just have low expectations of Kelderman

He can also waste himself for GC and crash away another race

 

[Gigs_98]

Re: Re:

Wish Kelderman would just abandon the GC and try for stages

wtf, he was 4th last year. Why would he abandon GC after he is thrown back after a flat tire?

That's just crazy talk

Because he's not gonna make up that much time to get top 5, much less a podium, and a stage win is a much better reward than another random top 10 spot

Last year Kelderman had an advantage of 3 minutes and 44 seconds on the 6th placed rider in a race with an imo clearly better gc field. So saying he lost all chances on a top 5 is nonsense.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Yeah. And I have the feeling he's really good and really fresh. This Vuelta is far from over

 

[Gigs_98]

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Yeah. And I have the feeling he's really good and really fresh. This Vuelta is far from over

This, even after this time loss there are only two riders I see clearly above him.

 

[Koronin]

Most interesting that for once Movistar actually made the split instead of being caught behind. However, I do wonder how much of that may be because they are on Valverde's home roads and he said something yesterday that there was going to be wind and he expected the wind to cause some splits. I wouldn't be totally shocked that his knowledge of the roads and the wind helped keep them from being caught out.

 

[Alexandre B.]

Valverde is not God, y'know.

 

[DNP-Old]

Re:

Valverde is not God, y'know.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was Valverde who made the wind blow in the first place.

 

[Gigs_98]

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Valverde is not God, y'know.

This :lol:

 

[Koronin]

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Valverde is not God, y'know.

:lol: :lol: He however is racing on home roads over the next few days, roads that include some of his regular training roads.

 

[HelloDolly]

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Yeah. And I have the feeling he's really good and really fresh. This Vuelta is far from over

This, even after this time loss there are only two riders I see clearly above him.

Kerlderman can still go up GC but I cannot see him win tbh nor podium

The split was clearly caused by the crash but the wind caused the damage...that gap could have been brought down if the chase was organised though ...1' 45" was too much

Cant understand how the chasers were so dis organised ...dreadful chase

Those boulards in the middle of the road at a bend ...that was just mental by the organisers...what were they thinking ...lots of rides could have been seriously damaged

 

[Red Rick]

Re: Re:

Wish Kelderman would just abandon the GC and try for stages

wtf, he was 4th last year. Why would he abandon GC after he is thrown back after a flat tire?

That's just crazy talk

Because he's not gonna make up that much time to get top 5, much less a podium, and a stage win is a much better reward than another random top 10 spot

Last year Kelderman had an advantage of 3 minutes and 44 seconds on the 6th placed rider in a race with an imo clearly better gc field. So saying he lost all chances on a top 5 is nonsense.

Everyone who made that Vuelta field strong finished above him or couldn't care less.

Sure, he's fresh. And he has a tremendous capacity to mess up another time in the 15 remaining stages.

 

[Bot. Sky_Bot]

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Valverde is not God, y'know.

Nope. But for c.a. one year there is no Holy Trinity any longer. Valverde was discovered here as The Fourth Part of the God.

 

[Koronin]

Re: Re:

Valverde is not God, y'know.

Nope. But for c.a. one year there is no Holy Trinity any longer. Valverde was discovered here as The Fourth Part of the God.

LOL. He was just given to us by the cycling gods. That's all.

 

[Alexandre B.]

https://twitter.com/tonygallopin/status/1035210489410842624
Hey @lavuelta, it's not normal to crash after the finish line because of the helicopter ... Fortunately @DuvalJulien27 is ok !


So the helicopter caused the barriers to move.