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I think you often see lack of effort from everyone in some these early season prologues, it was long enough for a prologue too.

Valverde going he hard to beat he is in the best shape has an advantage over everyone already and a strong team
 
theyoungest said:
Yes, he says he isn't. But if you look at him, and look at the climbs/efforts he's best at, he's better at shorter climbs and shorter time trials. He has never even made the top-10 in a long TT.

He doesn't get better as the effort lengthens.
That doesn't mean he is explosive either.

There is a reason why he has only won one race in his entire career and completely sucks in one day races, you know.
 
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Hope that Ion Izagirre can do something today, the profile looks perfect for him but that doesn't show the real difficulty, Valverde.
 
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Flamin said:
That doesn't mean he is explosive either.

There is a reason why he has only won one race in his entire career and completely sucks in one day races, you know.
That's because he's just never the best rider on the day, that doesn't mean he isn't explosive. He's just more of a stage racer.

His strengths in stage races lie in the shorter efforts, not in the long climbs and time trials. Look at last year's Tour, he was great in that stage Pinot won, with the short climbs. On the longer climbs he wasn't at the level of Nibali, Wiggo, Froome.
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Robert Gesink
Start of Ruta: When I got on the start podium it started raining, now the roads are dry again. #notmyday #badtime
mollema also rode in the "rain", as shown in video. so gesink looking for excuses again
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
mollema also rode in the "rain", as shown in video. so gesink looking for excuses again
Hm, interesting. According to Mollema himself he rode dry.

Could we call you a hater? ;)

Ryo Hazuki said:
if they drop moreno
Moreno isn't really quicker than Valverde.
 
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theyoungest said:
Hm, interesting. According to Mollema himself he rode dry.

Could we call you a hater? ;)


Moreno isn't really quicker than Valverde.
maybe you should watch the video where you can se ehim riding in the rain and he only started 15 minutes after gesink anyway, so then the roads were dry all of a sudden? :rolleyes:

moreno is quicker than valverde. moreno wouldn't do bad in massprints. valverde has lost some of his quickness
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
maybe you should watch the video where you can se ehim riding in the rain and he only started 15 minutes after gesink anyway, so then the roads were dry all of a sudden? :rolleyes:

moreno is quicker than valverde. moreno wouldn't do bad in massprints. valverde has lost some of his quickness
I've seen the vid, no Mollema didn't ride in the rain, no the roads didn't look wet. Whether Gesink is a whining biatch, I have no idea, I didn't see the conditions when he rode.
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
maybe you should watch the video where you can se ehim riding in the rain and he only started 15 minutes after gesink anyway, so then the roads were dry all of a sudden? :rolleyes:

moreno is quicker than valverde. moreno wouldn't do bad in massprints. valverde has lost some of his quickness
Last year Valv beat Moreno in la Lastrilla, and on the last stage of the Vuelta he placed sixth in the sprint. So he used to be able to win flat stages? I don't think so. Or do you mean he's not fast after 250km anymore? Valverde hasn't lost a bit, he only seems better than pre-ban.
 
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he seems better than pre-bann but no his sprint. valverde before his bann could place top 3 in massprints
 
Van Hecke went solo on the cat 3. climb Prado del Rey
Reached the summit only 17 seconds ahead of Moyano and Mas, but now has 1:17 (unless biciciclismo did a typo?)
Peloton at 3:13. 110 km into the race, 10 km from the start of the ascent of the cat 1 climb.
 
A 25 kms de meta. El grupo de cabeza:

Valverde, Quintana y Moreno (Movistar), Gesink y Mollema (Blanco), Van den Broeck, De Clercq y Van de Walle (Lotto), Nieve (Euskaltel-Euskadi), Brajkovic, Fuglsang, Ponzi y Seeldrayers (Astana), Armee (Topsport), Maté y Navarro (Cofidis), Spilak (Katusha), Arroyo (Caja Rural), Hivert (Sojasun) y Belda (Burgos-BH)
 
theyoungest said:
That's because he's just never the best rider on the day, that doesn't mean he isn't explosive. He's just more of a stage racer.

His strengths in stage races lie in the shorter efforts, not in the long climbs and time trials. Look at last year's Tour, he was great in that stage Pinot won, with the short climbs. On the longer climbs he wasn't at the level of Nibali, Wiggo, Froome.

Riders with an explosive kick do/can win races whilst not being the strongest.

Well yeah, he's a worse climber than these guys. And the longer the effort, the more selective it gets.

Btw, how many explosive JVDB attacks have you ever witnessed?
 
classicomano said:
A 25 kms de meta. El grupo de cabeza:

Valverde, Quintana y Moreno (Movistar), Gesink y Mollema (Blanco), Van den Broeck, De Clercq y Van de Walle (Lotto), Nieve (Euskaltel-Euskadi), Brajkovic, Fuglsang, Ponzi y Seeldrayers (Astana), Armee (Topsport), Maté y Navarro (Cofidis), Spilak (Katusha), Arroyo (Caja Rural), Hivert (Sojasun) y Belda (Burgos-BH)
Ponzi:eek:
Impressive if it's correct!
 

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