Where are the mountain stages? 
Really, really bad route. There's gonna be a lot of extremely boring stages.
Really, really bad route. There's gonna be a lot of extremely boring stages.
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Hugo Koblet said:Where are the mountain stages?
Really, really bad route. There's gonna be a lot of extremely boring stages.
icefire said:Too many copy+paste errors with the profiles
Climb profiles for stage 16:
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Watch out for the wind in stage 8.
Descender said:I honestly cannot recall a worse GT route than this one.
It goes bad --> worse --> worst --> 2014 Vuelta route.
IMO Froome yes, Quintana could have some problems with the typical vuelta uphill-sprints, i thinks he's not explosive enough for those. Not that he can't accelerate, but he really shines after multiple and/or long and hard climbs when his opponents are already donegmedina said:Hmm...I think this years vuelta might be a really close battle...I'd love to see Uran take it. With this Vuelta design, are Quintana/Froome still the men to beat?
dont bother.He is the biggest vuelta hater in this universeRed Rick said:I know there were mountains, but with one team controlling you could realistically only expect attacks on 4 stages. Not to mention the parcours was so obviously favoured to the guy the ASO wanted to win
Red Rick said:Tour de France 2012 says hello
Red Rick said:I know there were mountains, but with one team controlling you could realistically only expect attacks on 4 stages. Not to mention the parcours was so obviously favoured to the guy the ASO wanted to win
ILovecycling said:dont bother.He is the biggest vuelta hater in this universe![]()
The 2014 Vuelta route at least has one real mountain stageDescender said:Forget about specific teams or riders. We're talking about routes.
Are you going to sit there and tell me with a straight face the 2012 TdF route was worse than the 2014 Vuelta route?
Stromeon said:Forgotten how bad the route is. (ie Warning: Rant approaching)
First week is a complete mess - no geographical logic to it at all and it contains about 3 or 4 of those hilly-flat stages that are usually reserved for the breakaway, except it's the first week so it probably won't be, so we will have sort-of-reduced bunch finishes, which are imho the least interesting types of finishes. Also, the organisers, despite starting the race in Andalucia and spending a considerable amount of time there, somehow contrive to miss out the entire Sierra Nevada mountain range bar one middling climb in favour of 'meh' stages that could be easily implemented elsewhere, which in turn would actually help the route to get closer to becoming an actual Vuelta a Espana, in the literal sense.
Stages 8,9,10 and 11 are all decent, indeed I'm rather pleased that, for one stage at least, they've abandoned the 'well it worked last year so it will work every year' theory and actually included a NEW never-before-seen climb in San Miguel de Aralar! The TT could also be interesting as well, although it could do with being a bit longer.
Anyway, enough with the positive talk, as we are quickly confronted with the s****yness that is stage 12. I mean honestly...?
Moving quickly on, we have stage 13, which is typical Vuelta fare, 14 which is an expert lesson (from past masters, it has to be said) in the avoidance of descents, so again is pretty typical Vuelta fare, even up to the hellish gradients on the last climb.
Then Lagos de Covadonga is back...at least it's a nice climb...
And then in stage 16 we finally have a proper mountain stage! Not a lot to complain about here for once!
However my joy is short-lived as I start to consider the last week as a whole. Rather like the first week, in terms of going in the general direction of A to B, this is a non-sensical mess, as can be seen from the map. This might be passable, if it was for the sake of balancing the route and spacing out the mountains. But no... instead we are treated to an agglomeration of big mountain stages, followed by an insipid trio of flat/probably insignificant hilly stages. Looking at the map, surely it would be easier to have the Lagos de Covadonga stage starting from the south (ie actually somewhere remotely near where the last stage finished) and then have a flat stage along the coast before the Farrapona stage, thus balancing things out and encouraging more action from the favourites as they have an extra day to rest... obviously not, however.
Instead we have an unnecessary detour to the west coast as we pass the finishing town, without actually having decent stages to merit this oddity as for three days of GC irrelevance in what should be the climax of the race. Penultimate stage is fine, I suppose, and the last stage will in about 20% of cases be exciting and 80% a procession.
So to conclude, it's a half-arsed unbalanced waddle around about a quarter of the country with no semblance of geographical direction. Including transfers, it crosses over itself ten times, which tells a story. At least the racing can't be worse (famous last words)
Descender said:One way to shut me up: challenge my points with arguments and make me change my mind.
Red Rick said:Yeah. At least the Vuelta is perfectly balanced.
Weak mountain stages with pretty average mtf's and 2 good mountain stages balanced with a measly 40km in itt'ing is better than 4 mountain stages and 100km of tt'ing