Vuelta a España - Stage 18 Valladolid - Salamanca 148.9km

[Moncoutie]

Breakaway 2.14 up after 20kms

ESTRADA RUIZ Juan Javier (024), TORIBIO ALCOLEA Jose Vicente (029), PICHOT Alexandre (045), URTASUN PEREZ Pablo (078), BENITEZ ROMAN Jose Alberto (081), PIETROPOLLI Daniele (118), KAISEN Olivier (136) and ROELS Dominik (194)

 

[Frosty]

lol. Nicely put.



I wish. HTC dont do "let someone else win". Its all Cav.
Did anyone get a chance when Cav had 6 wins 09 or 5 wins 10 ? Nope Cav (though he was going for green tbf).
ANy minor races, someone else gets a go? nope Cav.
Who gets to go ahead and take the leaders jersey everytime his team wins a ttt? Cav.
When Cav had no chance at MSR? Greipel . Nope, just kidding

Cav

I'll bite

Cav tried to give the win to Goss earlier in this Vuelta, not sure which stage though

He has allowed his lead-out man to take a win before, in the Giro 2008. The grateful recipient that day was a promising young sprinter by the name of Greipel, wonder what happened to him....

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/road/2008//giro08/?id=results/giro0817

I think he would like to gift a win but the trouble is how to do it. A win today will not win the points jersey mathematically although if Farrar finishes low down then all Cav will have to do is get two decent results. So he has to win today and will probably have to do well tomorrow and the management might like to make sure they have a win in the final stage. Tomorrow's finish is uphill so maybe it wont suit Cav as much anyway. Perhaps Goss will ride in Cav's wheel?

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Nibbles to win just to take a **** out of resident cycling genius dekker t.

How would Nibali winning a flat stage take a **** out of me?

 

[TourOfSardinia]

127km left - braeak of 8

Even if this break get an hour's gap they won't dent the GC!


118 Pietropolli (ITA, LAM) +1:37:30
81 J.A. Benítez (SPA, FOT) +1:52:41
24 Estrada (SPA, ACA) +2:11:13
78 Urtasun (SPA, EUS) +2:42:25
194 Roels (DUI, MRM) +2:51:26
45 Pichot (FRA, BTL) +2:53:58
136 Kaisen (BEL, OLO) +2:56:39
29 Toribio (SPA, ACA) +3:14:41

 

[The Hitch]

I'll bite

Cav tried to give the win to Goss earlier in this Vuelta, not sure which stage though

So he says.

 

[sublimit]

How would Nibali winning a flat stage take a **** out of me?

Ignore him. Its the BMCfan94 in his other guise with his usual BS.

 

[Moncoutie]

The rain has arrived.

 

[El Pistolero]

Why do you hate Mosquera so badly?

I don't hate him, I'd rather have him win then Nibali. But people are acting like he was so exciting to watch here.

And then they come with their silly argument "go back to only watching the Tour". I seem to remember 2 better and more exciting attacks from Andy Schleck in the Tour. Yet they have no problem calling Andy boring and Mosquera incredibly exciting.

 

[Climbing]

They don't love Mosquera.
They hate italians!

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Zabriskie NDS

Apparently Zabriskie did not start today

 

[Jamsque]

So he says.

If you watched the stage, it was pretty obvious that he was trying to give Goss the stage.

Also, CN ticker just alleged that Cav was actually ill at the start of the Vuelta but covered it up.

 

[mulletCobra]

Apparently Zabriskie did not start today

Jet set for the USPros TT?

 

[TourOfSardinia]

First two Sprints

La Serrada 21 km
1 Roels (DUI, MRM) 4
2 Pichot (FRA, BTL) 2
3 Kaisen (BEL, OLO) 1

Medina del Campo 39.6 km
1 Kaisen (BEL, OLO) 4
2 Toribio (SPA, ACA) 2
3 Roels (DUI, MRM) 1

 

[kurtinsc]

Jet set for the USPros TT?

THat would be cool if he did. I'd like to see the Leipheimer/Zabriskie contest for that.

 

[The Hitch]

I don't hate him, I'd rather have him win then Nibali. But people are acting like he was so exciting to watch here.

And then they come with their silly argument "go back to only watching the Tour". I seem to remember 2 better and more exciting attacks from Andy Schleck in the Tour. Yet they have no problem calling Andy boring and Mosquera incredibly exciting.

attacking 50 metres out to get 10 seconds in Morzine? you call that an attack?

what else do you have in mind? Trying to attack but failing on the TOurmalet?

How are these better attacks than going from 3 km out in Andora and riding everyone of his wheel.

Schleck - attacks sees it didnt work. nd starts working with COntador.
Mosquera - attacks sees it didnt work.Just says "you _ with me you _ with the best" "take this". rides them off his wheel. Kills both of them.

 

[El Pistolero]

attacking 50 metres out to get 10 seconds in Morzine? you call that an attack?

what else do you have in mind? Trying to attack but failing on the TOurmalet?

How are these better attacks than going from 3 km out in Andora and riding everyone of his wheel.

Schleck - attacks sees it didnt work. nd starts working with COntador.
Mosquera - attacks sees it didnt work.Just says "you _ with me you _ with the best" "take this". rides them off his wheel. Kills both of them.

Tourmalet was way more exciting then anything Mosquera has done really. And the two attacks I meant were when Contador and Schleck both distanced all the others. I wasn't even talking about Morzine. Navarro was putting up an extremely high tempo there, Andy was expecting Contador to attack. He didn't know Contador was having a bad day. Mosquera made the same mistake with Nibali. So I faill to see why Mosquera would be more exciting then Schleck.

And funny how you can ride everyone off your wheel without actually winning? How does that work?

Mosquera wouldn't be able to ride anyone of his wheel at the Tour, so what kind of argument is that really? You're complaining Andy couldn't break Contador? Who can?

 

[Ferminal]

I'll bite

Cav tried to give the win to Goss earlier in this Vuelta, not sure which stage though

He has allowed his lead-out man to take a win before, in the Giro 2008. The grateful recipient that day was a promising young sprinter by the name of Greipel, wonder what happened to him....

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/road/2008//giro08/?id=results/giro0817

I think he would like to gift a win but the trouble is how to do it. A win today will not win the points jersey mathematically although if Farrar finishes low down then all Cav will have to do is get two decent results. So he has to win today and will probably have to do well tomorrow and the management might like to make sure they have a win in the final stage. Tomorrow's finish is uphill so maybe it wont suit Cav as much anyway. Perhaps Goss will ride in Cav's wheel?

Has a team ever "hedged" by having two sprinters contest a sprint finish? Garmin did something similar in the TdF when Farrar wasn't 100%, but it was a failure. Its obviously been proven that using the 2nd sprinter as a lead out is much more likely to produce the win.

 

[Ferminal]

Advantage decreases

The advantage decreases to 1-37. It is notraining.

 

[Spare Tyre]

Dave Harmon from English Eurosport suggests Bbox Bouygues Telecom is finished. Bad news if true.


Edit: Probably in the wrong thread

 

[Mellow Velo]

Yes, the end of BBox. Fedrigo already being on his way to FDJ should have signalled this was on the cards.

The stage? Buncho sprinto.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

So.... is it saturday yet?

 

[Scirea]

Tourmalet was way more exciting then anything Mosquera has done really. And the two attacks I meant were when Contador and Schleck both distanced all the others. I wasn't even talking about Morzine. Navarro was putting up an extremely high tempo there, Andy was expecting Contador to attack. He didn't know Contador was having a bad day. Mosquera made the same mistake with Nibali. So I faill to see why Mosquera would be more exciting then Schleck.

And funny how you can ride everyone off your wheel without actually winning? How does that work?

Mosquera wouldn't be able to ride anyone of his wheel at the Tour, so what kind of argument is that really? You're complaining Andy couldn't break Contador? Who can?

??? Andy rode tempo on Tourmalet and that was it. It was boring as hell, everybody knew that won't work.

 

[roundabout]

Somebody should tell Caisse that it's not working. doesn't really look like much wind

 

[Sasquatch]

Has a team ever "hedged" by having two sprinters contest a sprint finish? Garmin did something similar in the TdF when Farrar wasn't 100%, but it was a failure. Its obviously been proven that using the 2nd sprinter as a lead out is much more likely to produce the win.

Cav and Goss can reverse roles.

Goss has produced some explosiveness this Vuelta. If Cavendish leads him out and Goss can keep his wheel, Goss will win. They need a corner in the last 500 metres like the other day to make use of it.

 

[The Hitch]

the gap now is what it will be on saturday