Vuelta a España 2016 Rumours

[ice&fire]

We already knew there would be a stage finish at La Camperona. Now we know the date: 27th of August. That's the Saturday at the end of the first week (stage 8).

http://www.imarca.es/texto-diario/mostrar/318839/la-vuelta-volvera-a-la-camperona-el-27-de-agosto

 

[ice&fire]

This is actually a non-rumour, and a good one I'd say

No Angliru next year. The ful text is available for subscribers only, but the headline is clear.

http://www.lne.es/caudal/2015/10/27/organizacion-vuelta-espana-descarta-etapa/1832499.html

 

[bassano]

Re:

It's about 8km at 7% iirc. PRC did a whole investigation into possibilities for using Las Rías Altas here including two suggested stages:

Trasmonte is short but steep, but the descent is very narrow, therefore the run-in from the second option may be a bit too difficult to incorporate.

I do not know where you are taking profiles but desnivel acumulado it is definitelly not even close to 3900m as it is wrote here, not even that 3000 in 2nd profile, it is like half of that (or I am not able to count, but it seems quite strange data to me)

anyway I would like to see Siera Pandera finish back in Vuelta and if there also would be something like stage 11 this year, I would not mind

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I took those profiles from the site I linked to, they're not my calculations, I don't know if I've ever mapped out stages in Las Rías Altas to be honest, normally it's too tough to fit that part of Galicia into the routes I work on...

 

[BigMac]

Re: Re:

It's about 8km at 7% iirc. PRC did a whole investigation into possibilities for using Las Rías Altas here including two suggested stages:

Trasmonte is short but steep, but the descent is very narrow, therefore the run-in from the second option may be a bit too difficult to incorporate.

I do not know where you are taking profiles but desnivel acumulado it is definitelly not even close to 3900m as it is wrote here, not even that 3000 in 2nd profile, it is like half of that (or I am not able to count, but it seems quite strange data to me)

anyway I would like to see Siera Pandera finish back in Vuelta and if there also would be something like stage 11 this year, I would not mind

I'd bet the farm it is. You're probably only counting the categorized climbs. Not only some of the hills aren't categorized, the smaller bumps in the road must be taken into account as well.

 

[bassano]

Re: Re:

I'd bet the farm it is. You're probably only counting the categorized climbs. Not only some of the hills aren't categorized, the smaller bumps in the road must be taken into account as well.

I calculated it in my head from image so it can be different but still I do not see there 4000m in any way, but I know that some GPS claculation make systematic mistake especially in stages with lot of that small bumps

Libertine: it would be cool if you would be able to do profile like they have on Giro on Tour, I would ask you to learn me how to do that
but stages like that on the start of Vuelta or even some other GT would be cool

 

[Brullnux]

Re: Re:

I'd bet the farm it is. You're probably only counting the categorized climbs. Not only some of the hills aren't categorized, the smaller bumps in the road must be taken into account as well.

I calculated it in my head from image so it can be different but still I do not see there 4000m in any way, but I know that some GPS claculation make systematic mistake especially in stages with lot of that small bumps

Libertine: it would be cool if you would be able to do profile like they have on Giro on Tour, I would ask you to learn me how to do that
but stages like that on the start of Vuelta or even some other GT would be cool

I'm not Libertine but Cronoescalada does Tour/Vuelta/Giro/retro style profiles.

 

[bassano]

Re: Re:

I'm not Libertine but Cronoescalada does Tour/Vuelta/Giro/retro style profiles.

thanks for that adress, it will be usefull for me, but I actually meant to recieve pictures like you can find on steephill stage profiles or even on official pages of Giro/Tour or simillar like LS posted

edit: sorry I just found how to do it

 

[ice&fire]

The Galician town of Lugo will host a stage finish. I guess this one will be for the sprinters

http://www.noticiasgalicia.com/index.php/deportes-lugo/24805/lugo-sera-sede-una-etapa-de-la-vuelta-ciclista-a-espana

 

[Red Rick]

Really liking that they're skipping the Angliru. Lets get on the Gamoniteiru bandwagon already.

 

[ice&fire]

More details on the Galician stages:
http://www.lavozdegalicia.es/noticia/coruna/betanzos/2015/11/04/vuelta-2016-tendra-finales-san-andres-teixido-ezaro/0003_201511G4P46995.htm

We already knew about the stage finish in Ézaro. The interesting bit is the finish in San Andrés de Teixido. This is at the foot of Garita da Herbeira.

Space is the village is very tight, so I don't know if this might be a descent finish or they'll just put the finish at the summit and name it after the closest village.

 

[ice&fire]

Finally we're getting some rumours on stages after the first week:

• Unipublic has been looking for hotel accommodations around the town of Alcañiz and has proposed to host a stage departure there on the 5th of September (last week's Moday), but the town finances are not in good health so they'll have to look for funding somewhere else
• The article states that the preceding stage (Sunday 4th of September) will finish in Huesca. Being Sunday at the end of the 2nd week I would think this could be MTF (Formigal?, Panticosa?, Cerler?), but the transfer from any of those places to Alcañiz would be 3 hours long.

Coming from the West and going South after Huesca means no more Pyrenees. If there is a mountain stage on Saturday 3rd of September it would probably be in Navarre.

http://www.lacomarca.net/comarcas/bajo-aragon/bajo-aragon-sociedad/item/10187-la-vuelta-ciclista-a-espana-ofrece-a-alcaniz-acoger-la-salida-de-una-etapa

 

[GuyIncognito]

When's the presentation, anyway?

 

[ice&fire]

I haven't found an official presentation date, but from recent years we can expect it to be the 2nd Saturday of January. Still two months to go.

 

[ice&fire]

Stage 3 with finish at Ézaro will depart from Marín, near Pontevedra. Unipublic has discarded a hill top finish for stage 2.

http://diariodepontevedra.galiciae.com/noticia/464218/marin-acogera-la-salida-de-la-tercera-etapa-de-la-vuelta-espana-de-2016

 

[mariposa]

http://www.mundodeportivo.com/ciclismo/20151115/30176891345/la-provincia-de-alicante-acogera-una-contrarreloj-en-la-vuelta-a-espana-2016.html

Alicante province hoping to have a TT stage in 2016. They are saying it could be a decisive stage so assume it would be later on in the race but no exact date given.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

It would need to be, we already know 5 days in Galicia, and Camperona being expected to be stage 8 suggests two stages in Asturias, so over a third of the race in the northwestern corner. Alicante is about as far from there as is imaginable, so would seem to suggest a long transfer or that it will be toward the end of the race. If they go anticlockwise they could go south and have the penultimate weekend stages in the south then have a late TT in Alicante and work their way up toward Cuenca, Guadalajara and Madrid in week 3 I guess.

 

[ice&fire]

If the stage on Monday 3rd week departs from Alcañiz as rumoured, the 2nd rest day will be on Tuesday and the ITT on Wednesday. Not a long transfer from wherever they finish on Monday (Teruel or Castellón) to the North of Alicante.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Right, that makes sense, so where would Unipublic go from there to get back to the finish and not have a tame finish? Maybe Wednesday Alto de Aitana and Thursday the TT? Or Wednesday the TT and then Thursday somewhere like Sierra de Espuña? Or (pray pray pray) Cálar Alto on Thursday, some flat stage up to Ciudad Real or Tomelloso on Friday, then into the Sierra de Madrid from somewhere like Toledo on Saturday? Or are they going to go the 2013 route and stick a huge transfer back to Madrid after some Andalucian MTF?

 

[ice&fire]

Nobody knows. Guillén stated that here wouldn't be many stages South of Madrid. But Wednesday to Saturday make four stages. Are four stages many?

 

[ice&fire]

Urdazubi-Urdax (Navarre) rumoured as a possible stage finish. I haven't found the original source in Diario de Navarra, but posts in forums mention the possibility to have this stage either on Friday or on Monday. Friday would be in line with the rumour to have the stage on Sunday in Huesca, Monday in Alcañiz and the ITT in Alicante after the second rest day. If this stage in Navarre is on Monday every (little) thing we know about the second and third weeks may need to be reshuffled.

http://www.biciciclismo.com/es/vuelta-2016-urdazubi-urdax-posible-final-navarro-14-11-2015

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Interesting. They approached that from France when Dantxarinea hosted a País Vasco stage, however it would be directly off the descent from the steepest and hardest side of Otxondo, which is the first 5km of this:

 

[ice&fire]

Stage 9 will finish at Alto del Naranco in Oviedo, just the day after La Camperona.

http://www.diariodeleon.es/noticias/deportes/cistierna-situa-leon-rey-vuelta_1024194.html

With this information, only two stages from the first week remain unknown.

Stage 1: Orense TTT
Stage 2: Orense? - Pontevedra? (Flat - Downhill finish)
Stage 3: Marín - Ézaro (Murito finish)
Stage 4: Betanzos - San Andres de Teixido (Cat 2 MTF?)
Stage 5: ? - Lugo (Flat finish)
Stage 6: Lugo??? - Zamora???
Stage 7: Zamora??? - Leon???
Stage 8: ??? - La Camperona (Cat 1 MTF)
Stage 9: Cistierna - Alto del Naranco (Cat 2 MTF)

 

[ice&fire]

Pfff... Unipublic willing to go to Covadonga once again
http://www.elcomercio.es/deportes/ciclismo/201511/19/naranco-lagos-perfilan-como-20151119002414-v.html

5 HTF/MTF in the first 10 days.

Sat 20/8, Stage 1: Ourense TTT
Sun 21/8, Stage 2: Ourense? - Pontevedra? (Flat - Downhill finish)
Mon 22/8, Stage 3: Marín - Ézaro (Murito finish)
Tue 23/8, Stage 4: Betanzos - San Andres de Teixido (Cat 2 MTF?)
Wed 24/8, Stage 5: ? - Lugo (Flat finish)
Thu 25/8, Stage 6: Lugo??? - Zamora???
Fri 26/8, Stage 7: Zamora??? - Leon???
Sat 27/8, Stage 8: ??? - La Camperona (Cat 1 MTF)
Sun 28/8, Stage 9: Cistierna - Alto del Naranco (Cat 2 MTF)
Mon 29/8, Stage 10: Oviedo? - Lagos de Covadonga? (Cat 1 MTF)
Tue 30/8, Rest day
Wed 31/8, Stage 11: Cantabria???
Thu 1/9, Stage 12: Basque Country???
Fri 2/9, Stage 13: ??? - Urdax
Sat 3/9, Stage 14: Mountain stage in Navarre or France???
Sun 4/9, Stage 15: Mountain stage in Huesca???
Mon 5/9, Stage 16: Alcañiz? - ???
Tue 6/9, Rest day
Wed 7/9, Stage 17: Xabia - Calp (ITT)
Thu 8/9, Stage 18: ???
Fri 9/9, Stage 19: ???
Sat 10/9, Stage 20: Big mountain stage only Unipublic knows where ???
Sun 11/9, Stage 21: Final parade in Madrid

 

[Valv.Piti]

So basically the same script over and over again, opening TTT, one rather long ITT and 7-10 hill/mountaintop finishes ?