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Valv.Piti said:
Wait, are they actually finishing on Xorret del Cati?

Seems the Vuelta goes back to that same format over and over again, TTT, bunch of muritos and and stage 20 (or very late) ITT due to its 'success'. Apart from those crazy roads they find, their routes don't seem overly imaginary.
There are bids to host stage finishes at Xorret de Catí and Cumbres de Sol.
http://www.diarioinformacion.com/deportes/2016/11/17/cumbre-sol-xorret-cati-seran/1829409.html

They suggest:
Stage 6: Segorbe - Xàbia
Stage 7: Ontinyent - Cumbres del Sol
Stage 8: Denia - Xorret de Catí
Staeg 9: Petrer - Caravaca
 
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A month and a half till the presentation and I'm realizing it should be great edition again.
Considering that, practically, every GT contender intends to participate in two GTs next year, and that they all are approaching to the next season with higher ambitions, implies we're going to see suspense edition again.
The route looks to be following the Tour's path in search for tight racing.
 
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sir fly said:
A month and a half till the presentation and I'm realizing it should be great edition again.
Considering that, practically, every GT contender intends to participate in two GTs next year, and that they all are approaching to the next season with higher ambitions, implies we're going to see suspense edition again.
The route looks to be following the Tour's path in search for tight racing.
The Vuelta has been leading the search for tight racing for years with its muritos, the single climb MTF stages and the reduction of length and the addition of hills to the ITTs. Tight racing has been a stated goal for Guillén since he took charge of the race in 2010.
 
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sir fly said:
A month and a half till the presentation and I'm realizing it should be great edition again.
Considering that, practically, every GT contender intends to participate in two GTs next year, and that they all are approaching to the next season with higher ambitions, implies we're going to see suspense edition again.
The route looks to be following the Tour's path in search for tight racing.
Yeah, practically every GT contender intends to participate in two GT's but I think not necessarily in the Vuelta. Nibali isn't sure yet what he will do after the Giro, Bardet and Pinot both want to ride the giro, but I doubt they will skip the tour and have we even heard anything about Porte's and Contador's plans yet?
 

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Is Angrilu pretty much concrete confirmed?

I am making my first trip to Europe from Australia next year and I have never seen a race live, keen to stand on that fog filled mystical mountain.

Might Lombardia too
 
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Scarponi said:
Is Angrilu pretty much concrete confirmed?

I am making my first trip to Europe from Australia next year and I have never seen a race live, keen to stand on that fog filled mystical mountain.

Might Lombardia too
Angliru has only been confirmed by the mayor of the village next to it. There is a running contract between the Vuelta and the region of Asturias to host two mountain stages per year, so the chance to see the race going up a climb in slow motion is sure in any case.
 
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They need to stop making Angliru the last of them though, it neuters the racing before it. If Angliru had been before La Farrapona in 2011 the latter would have been a better stage. Give us either a Pola de Lena descent finish or La Cubilla after Cobertoria West (8,1km @ 8,5%), then descend through Cuchu Puercu, climb Cuchu Puercu south (7,8km @ 9,6%) to make a loop and descend down the side via Cordal into Pola de Lena. There's always Cobertoria via Pola de Lena, descend the south side, climb the west side then descend into Lena and climb Pajáres which we haven't seen since Cuitu Negru in 2012, but a Pajáres MTF hasn't been seen since the greatest Vuelta mountain stage in living memory.

Alternatively have one real mountain stage, then wouldn't it be great to see a monster stage which had climbs early on, but only small ones near the end, so you could have Tenebredo, La Collá, Lavandera (this profile until the first summit), Picullanza and a finish in Oviedo, or continue on descending through La Manzaneda before climbing El Padrún and potentially La Faidosa (this profile right to left!) before a finish in Mieres del Camino. Overall into Mieres from Tenebredo is about 55km of sawtoothed pain.
 
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Red Rick said:
I just keep wondering what's keeping them from introducing the Gamoniteiro.
Someone needs to put the money to send machinery to do some road improvement and cut and fill works to make room for the race infrastructure.
 
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ice&fire said:
Red Rick said:
I just keep wondering what's keeping them from introducing the Gamoniteiro.
Someone needs to put the money to send machinery to do some road improvement and cut and fill works to make room for the race infrastructure.

Are you insulting Zomegnan ? :D
 
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This link states that stage 6 will go from somewhere in Valencia to Cuenca, including a loop around the finish town. Stage 7 will depart from Cuenca.
http://eldeporteconquense.com/noticias/noticias-ciclismo/2016/11/28/cuenca-volvera-protagonista-la-vuelta-espana/

It's not clear how they will link the stages to Cumbre del Sol and Xorret de Catí. The rumour is that they'll go from Cuenca to Albacete. Albacete - Cumbre del Sol would be a monumental distance but they might do a transfer of 80-100 kms to a different departure town.
 
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Don't expect it, it would have been announced before now. The 2017 Vuelta starting in Nîmes has been known about for months and there hasn't been much to suggest any changes to that, especially now stage 3 ending in Andorra is confirmed. Next year is more likely as it would be odd to have stages there in 2019 just a few weeks before the Worlds even if we do see stages on upcoming Worlds circuits from time to time (2014 Spanish nationals in Ponferrada, 2008 Giro stage from Mendrisio to Varese) - the proximity on the calendar would seem to make that unlikely. 2020 itself would seem more logical tbh because two overseas starts in a row would be unprecedented for the Vuelta.

Considering the story about a south coast bid for the Tour being unsupported by BC because of some vague concept of unreasonableness, this "Yorkshire gets everything" schtick is getting a bit jaded now. Clearly the UCI and the race organizers are in the business of business, and striking while the iron is hot in the UK clearly makes sense in much the same way as we saw a glut of German teams and races in the 90s and early 00s until the bottom fell out due to the doping scandals. And when it comes to Yorkshire, there's a lot of great opportunities to produce good racing in the region, at least (Guillén is totally having a HTF at Sutton Bank, isn't he... at least unless he can figure out a way to make a Rosedale Chimney Bank HTF achievable)... but it's interesting that all of it seems to be focused entirely around one region. They have their own race plus regularly at least one stage of the Tour of Britain, the Tour, the Worlds and now the Vuelta, yet bids by other parts of the UK are being cast aside, which reeks of nepotism to me.
 
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Marca runs a short story about the Vuelta with just rumours, some of them clueless:
* There will be less muritos and more mountains (If they mean more mountains than 2016 that's easy)
* There will be less than 10 HTF/MTF, but no less than 8 (Coming from 12 must we see this as an improvement?)
* The likely finish at Mount Veleta would necessarily include sterrato (Why? They just repaved the road last year!)

http://www.marca.com/ciclismo/2016/12/04/584064d2e2704e75638b4702.html
 
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The top of Veleta ain't paved. It's a gravel road for the last miles. The amateur bike race upon the Veleta ends shortly after the pavement stops! So they might actually plan a true Veleta mtf. Since there's tarmac the whole way up to IRAM.
 
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I feel like Veleta mid race would make the Tour Vuelta double a lot harder. It would make the race a lot harder, and recovering from it is so much tougher than recovering from a 20 minute effort.
 
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staubsauger said:
The top of Veleta ain't paved. It's a gravel road for the last miles. The amateur bike race upon the Veleta ends shortly after the pavement stops! So they might actually plan a true Veleta mtf. Since there's tarmac the whole way up to IRAM.
The tarmac dissapears only after the last sky lift (~3300m) just a few hairpins before the summit (~3396). The last place where they can put some minimal finish line infrastructure is... the last sky lift. Looking at satellite images it looks that they repaved 'only' up to 2900m. So it might be like 4-5kms on old rough tarmac from there to the last ski lift.
This page has pictures of the road before it was repaved last year.
https://andaluciacicloturismo.com/2014/02/11/pico-veleta-por-haza-llana-o-rei/
Pictures after the sign of 2750m show what they can find in the upper slopes. I can't see Guillén going over that last unpaved section after the cancellation of the 2015 opening TTT on much smoother sterrato.
 
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IRAM is most likely. The highest that is probably achievable in terms of space requirements is Posiciones del Veleta at 3100m.
 
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IRAM would be the worst option to go, but hey, it's the Vuelta, which means it's likely the option they're going for