I thought Mas was the next man up.You realize that Quintana, Landa and Carapaz are leaving and Soler is the next man up, right?
Soler might be a valuable helper for him though. If he's not too busy shaking his head that is.
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I thought Mas was the next man up.You realize that Quintana, Landa and Carapaz are leaving and Soler is the next man up, right?
No, I was not considering that fact.You realize that Quintana, Landa and Carapaz are leaving and Soler is the next man up, right?
I think race radios where used quite a lot, especially telling riders to drop back from breakThis race and it's racers are fantastic. No negative racing for the most part. People making risky dynamic moves..Lopez really going for it. Valverde wearing the rainbow very proudly, Jumbo back and forth with Astana.
Movistars racing in the last @35-40 k was awesome win or lose.
The race looks like it is free of race radios and heavy team car statistician tactics ..it has radios sure but it would appear that the instructions are to "go for it!!!" .
Glad to see Kuss racing OK today..I am going to start drinking imported Slovenian everything! Beer water juice whatever!!tiny country big cycling presence.
What is wrong with Mitchelton -Scott a little listless
NahOn a great day for Movistar, Marc Soler showed arrogance and that he is not a "team player". If he has problems with his manager he should discuss them privately and not make negative gestures towards his team on live television.
His contract shoud be terminated.
He has shown on countless occasions that he is a team player, in fact, he could have thrown away the earpiece and continue to ride. I actually feel for him a bit, he did that in the heat of the moment and now he's persona non grata...On a great day for Movistar, Marc Soler showed arrogance and that he is not a "team player". If he has problems with his manager he should discuss them privately and not make negative gestures towards his team on live television.
His contract shoud be terminated.
Yes, great team tactics. Get the domestiques up the road early on and then they can help the main men towards the finish. I love when I see this tactic on the mountain stages. Except when a domestique thinks that he is better than the "main men", like Marc Soler Today. Yuk.I think race radios where used quite a lot, especially telling riders to drop back from break
I don’t understand how you can say they’re riding as if race radios don’t exist after watching today’s stage, how would various riders have dropped back for their leaders without race radios existingAlways liked Valverde..like Philippe Gilbert they win or lose w style.
Valverde races like a boy not an old man!!!
Del1962,yes I know race radio is in use..the racers riding as if it doesn't exist makes me happy. Old school attacking
He could not have thrown away his earpiece. His manager gave him instructions through his earpiece. In my job, I can't just say that I know better than my manager and disregard his instructions to me.He has shown on countless occasions that he is a team player, in fact, he could have thrown away the earpiece and continue to ride. I actually feel for him a bit, he did that in the heat of the moment and now he's persona non grata...
Always liked Valverde..like Philippe Gilbert they win or lose w style.
Valverde races like a boy not an old man!!!
Del1962,yes I know race radio is in use..the racers riding as if it doesn't exist makes me happy. Old school attacking
I'm sure you never did anything your way or expressed anger over something your boss had told you. And I'm sure there are cameras watching you and waiting for your error.He could not have thrown away his earpiece. His manager gave him instructions through his earpiece. In my job, I can't just say that I know better than my manager and disregard his instructions to me.
He disrespected Quintana by flicking his elbow. Numerous times he was seen on live t.v. vigorously shaking his head. He wasn't going to win the stage. When this was realised by the directeur sportif, an instruction was given to Soler. The team car has a lot of information coming in that the rider simply does not know about. Like, actual time gaps and attacks behind. The team car has the facts ... the rider only knows the facts that he hears in his earpiece.
Problem, from Soler’s point of view now, is that Nairo attacked and pulled Pogacar up to him. Had Nairo not attacked, Pogacar was just going to follow wheels. He was content to let Nairo bridge the gap.There's no way that team orders cost Soler a stage win. Movistar race director only called him back late when he realized that Soler was going to be smoked anyway.
If Soler was strong enough he would've been laughing and relaxing on Pogacar's wheel while running a slow cadence on a big gear then sped away in the final kilometer to win by 10 seconds. Or at the very least, he would've pulled Quintana to the line while sulking and looking back several times in frustration. Neither happened so we know that Soler didn't have what it took to win the stage.
Problem, from Soler’s point of view now, is that Nairo attacked and pulled Pogacar up to him. Had Nairo not attacked, Pogacar was just going to follow wheels. He was content to let Nairo bridge the gap.
Whether it’s right or not isn’t really the point. From Soler’s point of view, his team chased him down and then lost the stage.
wait, what??Always liked Valverde..like Philippe Gilbert they win or lose w style.
Valverde races like a boy not an old man!!!
Del1962,yes I know race radio is in use..the racers riding as if it doesn't exist makes me happy. Old school attacking
What do you mean “earlier then he was told to wait”?Yeah if you looked closely Soler was angry and shaking his head much earlier then when being told to wait. I saw him shaking his head when he saw Quintana and Pogacar from a corner when they were still more than 30 second back.
Those climbing times make an interesting read. Shows that Pogacar was massively impressive and that Roglic had excellent legs.