Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2020: Stage 17 (Sequeros > Alto de la Covatilla , 178.2 km)

[Gigs_98]

Carapaz has nobody to blame but himself here. Roglic was isolated a lot earlier than when he attacked, yet he waited until the hardest part of the climb was over, built a 20 second advantage in a short amount of time but once the road flattened out Roglic always had wheels in front of him while Carapaz was in the wind. Can't help but think that if Carapaz makes that attack where Carthy originally attacked this would have been decided by less than 10 seconds. This Vuelta was 100% winable for Carapaz, yet here we are.

 

[Eclipse]

Massive congrats to Movistar on securing their 5th place

 

[SafeBet]

Unzue showing the middle finger to Acquadro in clear view today.

 

[Fernandez]

To be fair, Roglic seems like a nice man. Happy for him.

 

[topt]

So Roglic was the best climber in this race??? .....rubbish

Carapaz,Carthy and Kuss were better

Ineos were useless today

Should have had a rider in the break like Amador or Van Baarle

Froome goto improve his form but Carapaz deserved a better team

Chris Almighty, Kuss ?

 

[bajbar]

guess not

To be fair, that was his econd GT riding for GC in a row. With four weeks in between. Less than there are usually between Giro and Tour. Plus he was 6th in the WC and won LBL in between. Really amazing.

 

[burning]

I am quite convinced that Movistar pulled the middle finger to mess up with Carapaz, lol

 

[Cassirer]

Congrats primoz! Very happy for him.

Dont get people saying how pathetic he is. He is clinging to the last rests of his form, defended well in Bad situations and was always aggressive when he could make use of his abilities. Of course the great team makes the whole ride a bit uninspiring at times, but still, he did something exceptional (soooo close to a GT-double) and I can only feel happy for him.

 

[tobydawq]

I'm a bit heartbroken. Richie

Because you lost the prediction game?

 

[LaFlorecita]

JV and Roglic have made me cheer for Ineos this year

 

[topt]

Carapaz needed to try it from 3 or 4 km out

he was alrady fading at the end, like on Angrilu

 

[titan31]

Massive congrats to Movistar on securing their 5th place

Ya, Martin didn't drop enough to make that worth it for Movistar to ride.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Why is Gesink upping the pace so much?

I don’t know, Kuss looked in trouble today for quite a while, unlike most other times. He wasn’t comfortable today, but he looked bad. Most other days he’s been imperiously strong.

Yeah. He never at any point had his chatting away coffee ride face on.

 

[Escarabajo]

I am amazed at the performance from Ineos. Really bad.
Some people saying that Carapaz should have attacked earlier in previous stages. I don't know. If there is a rider that always attacks when he has strength is Carapaz. You cannot criticize him for not attacking. Now, not having a team is another thing.

 

[Gigs_98]

JV and Roglic have made me cheer for Ineos this year

Meanwhile the Ineos rider lost the race because of his weak team. 2020 man...

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Carapaz has nobody to blame but himself here. Roglic was isolated a lot earlier than when he attacked, yet he waited until the hardest part of the climb was over, built a 20 second advantage in a short amount of time but once the road flattened out Roglic always had wheels in front of him while Carapaz was in the wind. Can't help but think that if Carapaz makes that attack where Carthy originally attacked this would have been decided by less than 10 seconds. This Vuelta was 100% winable for Carapaz, yet here we are.

I think he was quite poorly placed before the climb as he had no protectors, so he had probably got to go a bit harder than he would have liked to follow the Carthy move, plus he was relied on a fair bit to bring back Mas' move as well (he maybe shouldn't have blinked so early to cover that, or maybe he thought Mas would work with him, but his being there with Mas obviously brought Carthy and Rogla back to him), then he had to recover his legs a bit to go again I think.

 

[topt]

Well done to Roglic, not the fastest rider but the winner

not the fastest ? more crap

 

[BlueRoads]

Carapaz has nobody to blame but himself here. Roglic was isolated a lot earlier than when he attacked, yet he waited until the hardest part of the climb was over, built a 20 second advantage in a short amount of time but once the road flattened out Roglic always had wheels in front of him while Carapaz was in the wind. Can't help but think that if Carapaz makes that attack where Carthy originally attacked this would have been decided by less than 10 seconds. This Vuelta was 100% winable for Carapaz, yet here we are.

I think that's mostly due to Carapaz not being better on steep parts, neither on the flat. He has a certain gradient I think where he's better than Roglic and he tried to use that part, but it was not enough.

 

[LaFlorecita]

he was alrady fading at the end, like on Angrilu

Final km wasn't too difficult so better for Roglic. Carapaz should have tried from further out.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Someone has to say it: If this was a proper gt with 21 stages Roglic would have lost the race on the final gc stage.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Lol at the little fist bump from Roglic to Mas after the line! I would be interested to know exactly why Mas rode like that

 

[topt]

Roglic is such a beta team leader. He's no Froome, Contador or Nibali as an example.

you mean he doesnt have asthma

 

[BlueRoads]

Because you lost the prediction game?

That as well! Bad day for me.

Edit: I did not think Carapaz would come so close to winning today, but then he almost made it and gave me hope...

 

[topt]

Final km wasn't too difficult so better for Roglic. Carapaz should have tried from further out.

he was already fading at the end

 

[Red Rick]

I am amazed at the performance from Ineos. Really bad.
Some people saying that Carapaz should have attacked earlier in previous stages. I don't know. If there is a rider that always attacks when he has strength is Carapaz. You cannot criticize him for not attacking. Now, not having a team is a another thing.

He fooled around for a while on the harder section on the climb. He knew the gap. He didn't need to probe anyone, he should've just gone for it and not looked back.