Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2020: Stage 9 (B.M. Cid Campeador. Castrillo del Val > Aguilar de Campoo, 157,7 km)

[Zinoviev Letter]

Ackermann seems to say afterwards that the relegation was over Bennett head butting him? And that the objection was from Bora? What? Have we all been discussing the wrong incident or has something been lost in translation? Surely they were nowhere near each other?

 

[Netserk]

I'd like to see retired sprinters call the shots of relelgation. Petacchi, Freire, McEwen, O'Grady etc.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

I'd like to see retired sprinters call the shots of relelgation. Petacchi, Freire, McEwen, O'Grady etc.

lol you would have to stick a pump between another guys spokes to be dqed if old sprinters were the judges,

 

[Netserk]

Petacchi was a gentleman, and while the three others could pull some moves, I can't remember them causing a crash Cav-style.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

DQS
DSQ
QED

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Petacchi was a gentleman, and while the three others could pull some moves, I can't remember them causing a crash Cav-style.

Sure, but even the guys who were themselves very unaggressive all rode in periods where much more aggression was normal and complaining about anything short of full on psycho stuff was less common. I don‘t agree with decisions like today, but I do think it’s good that sprints are more regulated today. In my experience, old sprinters tend to lean a bit too hard into the idea that it’s a rough sport and you take your knocks.

 

[PeterB]

DQS
DSQ
QED

EOD

 

[tobydawq]

Another thing: Why on Earth did Amador think it would be a good idea to ride with the arms resting on his bars, leading the peloton 1700 metres from the line in the midst of a full battle for position? One of the more reckless things I have seen. Luckily, there was no crash but that was definitely not his doing.

 

[dgodave]

lol you would have to stick a pump between another guys spokes to be dqed if old sprinters were the judges,

Can you imagine if the guy next to you in the group had a frame pump? Thats like a firearm open carry.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I think Bennett is a nice guy and i really like him, but even if this were not necessarily dangerous, it was still completely unnecessary and unsportsmanlike/aggressive behavior which needs to be banned from cycling. If someone slaps me in the face, chances are this is not going to cause any injuries, but i'm still not going to accept it, lol. Let's hope they will punish these gestures consequently going forward.

What if Liepins had crashed, would Mr. "We will go to court, he should be put in jail" Lefevre sing a different tune?

Are you trying to compare this to ramming a rider into the boarding? Or you think that because Lefevere is wrong now, that he was wrong then also?

 

[red_flanders]

For me it was more a case of slightly over-aggressive defending of position. The TREK rider was trying to get on his lead-out man. Calls for a defense, but maybe he went a little too far. It's sprinting, things get a little dicey at times. I don't mind the relegation as it was slightly dangerous, but I wouldn't take any calls for Bennett to be more careful too far.

 

[Koronin]

Bennett had the right to defend his spot on the wheel of his leadout man, so I'm guessing he may have been a little too aggressive in the eyes of the jury. I also suspect the number of crashes this year may have a part in this as well.

 

[King Boonen]

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Bennett defending his own space there, surely.

The first contact yes, the second contact, no. Either way though, just because someone else does something stupid, doesn't mean he can do something stupid.

 

[titan31]

I think Bennett is a nice guy and i really like him, but even if this were not necessarily dangerous, it was still completely unnecessary and unsportsmanlike/aggressive behavior which needs to be banned from cycling. If someone slaps me in the face, chances are this is not going to cause any injuries, but i'm still not going to accept it, lol. Let's hope they will punish these gestures consequently going forward.


Are you trying to compare this to ramming a rider into the boarding? Or you think that because Lefevere is wrong now, that he was wrong then also?

I think it's more that an incident like today being let go as fine results in situations like Groenewegen. It's better for races to clamp down on smaller things like today and continuously do so, so that it alters sprinters behaviour and prevent the larger ones from happening.

Lefevre is coming off a bit hypocritical here I think.

 

[Red Rick]

Another thing: Why on Earth did Amador think it would be a good idea to ride with the arms resting on his bars, leading the peloton 1700 metres from the line in the midst of a full battle for position? One of the more reckless things I have seen. Luckily, there was no crash but that was definitely not his doing.

I've seen Nibali do it in echelons battle

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I'd like to see retired sprinters call the shots of relelgation. Petacchi, Freire, McEwen, O'Grady etc.

Abdoujaparov, Renshaw, Steels, Brown...

 

[Red Rick]

Abdoujaparov, Renshaw, Steels, Brown...

I reckon they'd follow football and introduce yellow cards for dives?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I reckon they'd follow football and introduce yellow cards for dives?

Either that or introduce a "no fracture no foul" rule.

 

[richwallone]

Sitting down, grabbing popcorn and let's see what people who actually race(d) these type of finishes have to say:

View: https://youtu.be/d32P3PDbc6c

 

[richwallone]

Abdoujaparov, Renshaw, Steels, Brown...

Abdou should be a UCI sprint judge The terror of Tashkent was sometimes more danger to himself than to anybody else... How the hell was he able to keep that bike upright swinging like that??? I still wonder to this day... Seriously though, today, almost every single of his sprints would a DQ.

 

[Red Rick]

TIL

There is a British rock band named after Abdoujaparov

 

[richwallone]

TIL

There is a British rock band named after Abdoujaparov

Just saw it here...

View: https://youtu.be/hnEjeGvxsTQ?t=644

 

[LaFlorecita]

Are you trying to compare this to ramming a rider into the boarding? Or you think that because Lefevere is wrong now, that he was wrong then also?

I'm not comparing anything. I think he was right in calling for safer racing initially. His calls for Groenewegen to be jailed were comically extreme.

I think his actions are those of a massive hypocrite. On one hand he's demanding more safety for riders but when one of his riders is the one endangering others and is held accountable he suddenly does a full 180 degree turn and shouts about how unfair the rules are, the rules that are in place to keep the riders as safe as possible.
It's not surprising though, we've seen this time and time again. He only cares about his team's benefit.

 

[Lequack]

Meanwhile at Bora camp

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1321925762967064577

View: https://twitter.com/BORAhansgrohe/status/1321925762967064577?s=20

 

[Libertine Seguros]

TIL

There is a British rock band named after Abdoujaparov

It's better than the guy's previous band's name...

The Delgados are probably the most 'famous' cycling tribute band. As well as being named for Perico, their first two albums were called "Domestiques" and "Peloton".