Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2021: Stage 3 (Santo Domingo de Silos - Picón Blanco, 202.8 km)

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I also find it hard to get a read on this stage. We do not often see such a hard MTF this early.

I am unsure about the form of more than a couple GC riders:
-Roglic looks really good, but I would like to see him in one hard mountain stage just to be sure that he has fully recovered
- Bernal has had Covid, crashed hard and did not look at his best in Burgus. I consider him to be the rider with the most to lose today. He not only cannot afford to lose more than a few seconds to Roglic, he also has to disperse doubts that other at Ineos are in better position to take leadership
-Carapaz: probably the favorite with the most wear and tear during the last few months. Conventional wisdom would suggest that he will probably fade by week 3. If he is already off at this point in the GT than he will probably have to concede leadership early
-Yates: Apart from Martinez looked like the Ineos rider most affected by the crash at Burgus. I am not sure what the expectations are from him at Ineos, but I think without a strong showing today that he might be the first that has to sacrifice his GC hopes.

About the race: With Roglic having such a firm grip on the ITT and the characteristics of the climb, it is hard for me to imagine that the favorites keep their feet still until the last 1-2 km. Landa, MAL and Carapaz will wait for the right moment and on a hard-to-control climb like this, that moment should arise.
I also expect 2-3 big GC riders to ship quiete a significant amount of time (1+ minutes) and I suspect that one of these guys will unfortunately be Bernal, who just looks off to me.
 
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Jakobsen crashed before the official start

8 leaders :
Julen Amezqueta (Spa/Caja Rural)
  • Tobias Bayer (Dui/Alpecin-Fenix)
  • Jetse Bol (Ned/Burgos-BH)
  • Lilian Calmejane (Fra/AG2R-Citroën)
  • Joe Dombrowski (VS/UAE)
  • Kenny Elissonde (Fra/Trek-Segafredo)
  • Antonio Jesus Soto (Spa/Euskaltel)
  • Rein Taaramae (Est/Intermarché-Wanty-Gobert)
 

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Jakobsen crashed before the official start

8 leaders :
Julen Amezqueta (Spa/Caja Rural)
  • Tobias Bayer (Dui/Alpecin-Fenix)
  • Jetse Bol (Ned/Burgos-BH)
  • Lilian Calmejane (Fra/AG2R-Citroën)
  • Joe Dombrowski (VS/UAE)
  • Kenny Elissonde (Fra/Trek-Segafredo)
  • Antonio Jesus Soto (Spa/Euskaltel)
  • Rein Taaramae (Est/Intermarché-Wanty-Gobert)
Dombrowski Ellissonde and Taaramae is a pretty bloody decent climbing break
 
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I got used to having the full stage coverage at the Tour and Giro that it now seems weird when coverage starts for the last 2 hours only.

Ya, the start can often be the best part of the race too. Hopefully the last week has earlier footage as stages like 15 and 20 in particular could have fun at the start.

From the break, Dombrowski is a good bet to win the stage here if the peloton give them some leeway.
 
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Sabotaging Ineos bikes :)

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Dombrowski Ellissonde and Taaramae is a pretty bloody decent climbing break

Don't discount Bayer after what we saw him do on the stage in Vuelta a Burgos. But unless JV will happily give away the jersey and the other teams don't want to push for a stage win, they won't hold on.
 
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I hadn't realised that they have placed those bonus sprints on every single stage. That seems a bit excessive.

Maybe so that there is a real chance for someone to get the green who's not Roglic (or had he started Pogacar)? I think in the last prediction game it was pointed out that the green in the Vuelta is usually won concurrently. -?

I don't know who will go for it here, though. Looks like Matthews isn't really interested. It will probably be a "king of the break-away" jersey?
(It's just intermediate sprints, right, you do not get any bonus seconds? Haven't read the road-book.)


Edit: Okay, forget this post, doesn't make sense at all and seems totally wrong.
 
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I hadn't realised that they have placed those bonus sprints on every single stage. That seems a bit excessive.
the Vuelta has always (well, for the past couple of years at least) handed out 3-2-1 bonus seconds underway. All they changed this year was to occasionally move it away from the intermediate sprint.
 
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the Vuelta has always (well, for the past couple of years at least) handed out 3-2-1 bonus seconds underway. All they changed this year was to occasionally move it away from the intermediate sprint.

I know, but like you say it's new that they use the same approach as in the Tour, where they place on top of the penultimate/final climbs. I'm not really convinced that the concept produces better racing, but it could possibly work well in the Vuelta.
 
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and about the points jersey: I liked the way it was distributed before, and it usually resulted in a close battle between GC riders and sprinters. In 2018 Valverde won 12pt ahead of Sagan, in 2017 Froome 2pt ahead of Trentin, in 2016 Felline 3pt ahead of Quintana... it only became a problem with the rise of Roglic, who takes points everywhere
 
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I know, but like you say it's new that they use the same approach as in the Tour, where they place on top of the penultimate/final climbs. I'm not really convinced that the concept produces better racing, but it could possibly work well in the Vuelta.
yeah, that's right, in the Tour it doesn't work at all - but also because they placed almost all those sprints in breakaway stages. With the right planing I think it's not a bad feature per se
 
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yeah, that's right, in the Tour it doesn't work at all - but also because they placed almost all those sprints in breakaway stages. With the right planing I think it's not a bad feature per se

In the Tour stages it could also be an idea to place them on top of the first or second climb just to se if that could initiate earlier GC action, particular on stages where a break is likely to succeed.
 
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