Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2023, stage 14: Sauveterre-de-Béarn - Larra-Belagua, 156.2k

[Libertine Seguros]

2023 Tour 22
2020 Tour 26
2000 Tour 26
The only ones with less by Stage 14 since 2000
2009 Tour is the worst group ride offender with 100 within an hour at that point, just ahead of the 2004 Giro with 98.

The 2009 Tour and the 2004 Giro are two of the dirt worst GTs of the modern era so that comes as no surprise. It was only 53 in the 2023 Giro though, which surprised me, because the first two weeks of that were absolutely atrocious.

Should be double triggering since Sepp is a fellow, proud alumni😁. DU is definitely a college hockey program to admire.

That's a relatively minor black mark against Sepp in comparison to some, though. The 2020 Tour is a wound that may never heal.

 

[Cookster15]

Great to see Remco come back - incredible really. Today had two special category climbs and a 1st category finish and he dropped Bardet like a stone. Bardet isn't what he once was and he isn't one of Jumbo's big 3 but he is still a very good climber. I think stage 20 looks tailor made for him. But lets see if he can hang tough on the Angliru first.

On a negative side, today makes his implosion even more puzzling - we now know he wasn't sick?

 

[Izzyeviel]

JURY COMMUNIQUE Nº 15
.Art. 2.12.7; 8.3 Disposing of waste outside the litter zones, unidentified rider. D.S. BORA-HANSGROHE; EISEL, Bernhard UCI ID 10001546324Multa 500 CHF

Art. 2.12.7; 8.3 Disposing of waste outside the litter zones. 67 STORER, Michael. GROUPAMA – FDJ UCI ID 10010203572141, MAS, Enric. MOVISTAR TEAM UCI ID 10008685726156, FERNÁNDEZ, Rubén COFIDIS UCI ID 10006587694 1st infringement: CHF 500 fine and 25 points from UCI rankings

 

[Mayomaniac]

a couple of days ago he said that he has some health issues, and somehow gained 6kg of weight during this Vuelta.

Probably some sort of bad inflammation that leads to you holding a lot of extra water weight.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

OK, that was a fast-forward stage, in more than one way,

Chapeau!

 

[dennisdy]

Remco certainly satisfied his fans today with a remarkable result. But what must his teammates be thinking!? If Remco had made an average performance yesterday he would have still been a GC contender! I've never seen an athlete (barring sickness or injury) have such a poor performance one day, and an outstanding one the next!

 

[Skijumper Roglic fan]

Quote Izzyeviel,

„JURY COMMUNIQUE Nº 15
.Art. 2.12.7; 8.3 Disposing of waste outside the litter zones, unidentified rider. D.S. BORA-HANSGROHE; EISEL, Bernhard UCI ID 10001546324Multa 500 CHF

Art. 2.12.7; 8.3 Disposing of waste outside the litter zones. 67 STORER, Michael. GROUPAMA – FDJ UCI ID 10010203572141, MAS, Enric. MOVISTAR TEAM UCI ID 10008685726156, FERNÁNDEZ, Rubén COFIDIS UCI ID 10006587694 1st infringement: CHF 500 fine and 25 points from UCI rankings“

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These „Jury communiques“, referring to UCI rules, make me smile oftentimes…

But in a funny, good way. It‘s great to have them, the rules and communiques…

It‘s just, then I always think of stuff that happens, which will probably never be content of such a communique - though being more serious than the things we indeed get to read in the published communiques… Funny, somehow

(Sorry for off topic )

 

[Izzyeviel]

They are quite difficult to find & that's even if they're available to us. The ones from the Tour de France femme avec zwift were much more informative.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Congratulations to Remco Evenepoel for winning the stage in grand style.

Would be hard to predict such outcome. Bardet rode bravely too. In regards to GC, UAE trying to launch Ayuso on penultimate climb and some tactical movement in between UAE and Bahrain. JV staying firmly in the lead.

 

[Squire]

Big heart win by Remco

While Kirby, my, his employers must be deaf. But he will make an interesting forum member, can we invite him?

Had to turn off the stream when Evenepoel attacked.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

I've never seen an athlete (barring sickness or injury) have such a poor performance one day, and an outstanding one the next!

Landis?

 

[Devil's Elbow]

It was only 53 in the 2023 Giro though, which surprised me, because the first two weeks of that were absolutely atrocious.

It helps that there were only 132 riders left in the race by that point, that makes it pretty hard to be at 100-ish riders still within an hour.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

...that was odd

 

[dennisdy]

Landis?

Landis finished ten minutes down in the 2006 tour stage 16, before winning by 5 on stage 17. That's a 15-minute swing. Remco had a 35-minute difference!!

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

Landis finished ten minutes down in the 2006 tour stage 16, before winning by 5 on stage 17. That's a 15-minute swing. Remco had a 35-minute difference!!

The big difference was that Landis still was highly relevant in GC and was chased by GC teams (even if the chase wasn’t well coordinated between Caisse d’Espargne and Telekom), Remco was not chased by the GC teams.

Dropping a lot of time one day and win from the break the following day is something we often see from breakaway riders.
For example when Barguil won his second Vuelta stage in 2013 he dropped 25 minutes on stage 15 to Peyragudes and then he won to Formigal the following day.

Of course it’s not the exact same as Remco as Remco was in the GC fight when he cracked. But unlike Landis that still rode what he had to the finish after he cracked, Remco soft pedaled from early slopes of Spandelles.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Landis finished ten minutes down in the 2006 tour stage 16, before winning by 5 on stage 17. That's a 15-minute swing. Remco had a 35-minute difference!!

Entirely irrelevant. If Evenepoel (the vast majority of us refer to the vast majority of riders by surnames, and I have no intention of making an exception in this case) had wanted to have a considerably bigger , or smaller, time difference on stage 13, he could have. Once he decided to take it easy, how easy was a tactical matter.
Equally if the GC group had wanted to allow him less, or more, time yesterday, that was entirely possible.

Don't confuse management of effort with capability.

 

[SHAD0W93]

The big difference was that Landis still was highly relevant in GC and was chased by GC teams (even if the chase wasn’t well coordinated between Caisse d’Espargne and Telekom), Remco was not chased by the GC teams.

Dropping a lot of time one day and win from the break the following day is something we often see from breakaway riders.
For example when Barguil won his second Vuelta stage in 2013 he dropped 25 minutes on stage 15 to Peyragudes and then he won to Formigal the following day.

Of course it’s not the exact same as Remco as Remco was in the GC fight when he cracked. But unlike Landis that still rode what he had to the finish after he cracked, Remco soft pedaled from early slopes of Spandelles.

Only Jumbo didn’t chase Evenepoel, otherwise UAE and Bahrain tried bringing it back.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

The big difference was that Landis still was highly relevant in GC and was chased by GC teams (even if the chase wasn’t well coordinated between Caisse d’Espargne and Telekom), Remco was not chased by the GC teams.

Dropping a lot of time one day and win from the break the following day is something we often see from breakaway riders.
For example when Barguil won his second Vuelta stage in 2013 he dropped 25 minutes on stage 15 to Peyragudes and then he won to Formigal the following day.

Of course it’s not the exact same as Remco as Remco was in the GC fight when he cracked. But unlike Landis that still rode what he had to the finish after he cracked, Remco soft pedaled from early slopes of Spandelles.

In the 2009 Vuelta, Damiano Cunego won the first mountaintop finish, at Alto de Aitana. After stage 12's MTF at Velefique, he was 7th on the GC, at +2'13". On the Sierra Nevada stage, stage 13, he was dropped early on, let go and came in the autobus after losing 28'14". The final stage of the back-to-back-to-back mountain stages was to La Pandera on stage 14; Cunego got in the break of the day and at first the bigger GC teams actually started chasing him down before they realised how much time he had lost the previous day; in the end, he and Jakob Fuglsang were the only remnants of the break that survived, Cunego dropping the Dane early on La Pandera and coming in three minutes ahead of the GC mix to win his second mountain stage of the race.