Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2023, stage 19: La Bañeza - Íscar, 177.1k

[Tim Cahill]

Dainese has a really good record when he's actually in the mix, he just rarely is

 

[RobertCrawley]

Good on Italian cycling. It feels like they are having a down period in Grand Tours.

 

[Netserk]

What a *** clown. I'm happy he hindered his own sprinter, his DS should yell at him for hours.

He had just looked over his left shoulder and seen that the EF train was moving up fast to the left of him, and what does he do then? Turn his *** back to them while he coast to his left where they are coming so that he crashes at the front of the peloton. Idiot. God damn imbecile.

 

[DNP-Old]

Remember guys, straight roads = safety.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

What a *** clown. I'm happy he hindered his own sprinter, his DS should yell at him for hours.

He had just looked over his left shoulder and seen that the EF train was moving up fast to the left of him, and what does he do then? Turn his *** back to them while he coast to his left where they are coming so that he crashes at the front of the peloton. Idiot. God damn imbecile.

Looks like it was Bayer. It's a shame Gall had such a good Tour, otherwise I could have joked that it was the biggest impact Austria had had on a GT for years.

 

[JosefK]

Should riders have to get extra training about what to do (what not to do) once they make their way to the front of the peloton in the final Ks of a sprint stage?

 

[Tim Cahill]

Doesn't matter if the run in is safe or not, as Geriant Thomas said last week, 'I'm racing with a bunch of n*b heads'.

 

[tobydawq]

What a *** clown. I'm happy he hindered his own sprinter, his DS should yell at him for hours.

He had just looked over his left shoulder and seen that the EF train was moving up fast to the left of him, and what does he do then? Turn his *** back to them while he coast to his left where they are coming so that he crashes at the front of the peloton. Idiot. God damn imbecile.

Wow, what's up with the temper?

But yeah, not an intelligent move...

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Doesn't matter if the run in is safe or not, as Geriant Thomas said last week, 'I'm racing with a bunch of n*b heads'.

Thomas has no right to talk considering that he crashes more often than >90% of riders and therefore firmly falls within that category himself.

 

[SafeBet]

Dainese has 6 professional wins, 3 of them are GT stages.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Thomas has no right to talk considering that he crashes more often than >90% of riders and therefore firmly falls within that category himself.

So true.

 

[Netserk]

Wow, what's up with the temper?

But yeah, not an intelligent move...

How many riders should he take down with a reckless move like that before you'd get angry?

 

[RobertCrawley]

Bumpy tomorrow.

No one beats Remco.

 

[tobydawq]

How many riders should he take down with a reckless move like that before you'd get angry?

Good question. I don't think I have ever gotten angry about causing a crash besides Theo Bos in Tour of Turkey.

I doubt it was done on purpose and he was the one who was hurt the most.

 

[saunaking]

Thomas has no right to talk considering that he crashes more often than >90% of riders and therefore firmly falls within that category himself.

would it be different if he just posted it on a forum?

 

[Danskebjerge]

Causing a crash by looking behind you in third wheel in the final 2k of a sprint stage should be a DSQable offence, by the way. Clear case of the riders themselves causing the danger.

But this will not be talked about much. It’s the odd crash with barriers or route design or other things involved that is debated. I think it would be nice to see more (or just as much) focus on the riders’ behaviour. Just as in real life traffic.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Ganna looked really proud of that Groves joke.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Thomas has no right to talk considering that he crashes more often than >90% of riders and therefore firmly falls within that category himself.

He's more the self-harm kind of rider than the crash entire bunch type tbf

 

[Red Rick]

Causing a crash by looking behind you in third wheel in the final 2k of a sprint stage should be a DSQable offence, by the way. Clear case of the riders themselves causing the danger.

Should be a ban. But riders dont care about safety of they have to show responsibility themselves

 

[Netserk]

Should be a ban. But riders dont care about safety of they have to show responsibility themselves

I'm sure Adam Hansen will comment this accident in 3.. 2.. 1..

 

[Unchained]

Should riders have to get extra training about what to do (what not to do) once they make their way to the front of the peloton in the final Ks of a sprint stage?

No extra training needed. There is always lots of contact with everyone bumping and leaning on each other, in more famous cases of head butts, it's part of the discipline people who are climbers or don't sprint don't crash in the sprint, everyone who is contesting a sprint in a pro race knows it's a deadly game, not for the faint of heart.

 

[yaco]

Groves and Dainese rode together in the SEG Academy and shared sprint duties - They turned both turned pro at the same time with Groves having 4 GT wins and Dainese 3 GT wins, although Groves is the better rider.

 

[RobertCrawley]

There are a couple whole teams that you would barely know are present

Your Colorado Buffalos are making themselves heard this year.

 

[Unchained]

Should be a ban. But riders dont care about safety of they have to show responsibility themselves

The riders often look behind to be safe and see a spot to pull out because they don't have any gas , on video once a rider stops pedaling it often looks like they are coming to a stop or putting on the brakes, but it's just the velocity of the bunch, sprinting can't be done "safely" there is no such thing.
Making a careless move when the situation demands 110% of your concentration is another thing. If your teammate is on your wheel, great, but if he is not doesn't make any difference at full speed, in view of the finish line banner, dumb for sure if that's what happened.. Big if..

 

[Devil's Elbow]

would it be different if he just posted it on a forum?

Please refer me to any of my posts where I’ve called riders n*bheads for riding dangerously.