Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2023, stage 3: Súria - Arinsal, 158.5k

[Valv.Piti]

Ofc, I forgot the notorious border control in Andorra-la-Vella. In this instance though its quite positive as the first riders are now finishing at 9.30 pm which ensures that every rider will finish in the exact same circumstances - complete darkness. Would have been a real mess if Roglic was able to see what's ahead of him and Kim Heiduk wasn't.

 

[Cookster15]

So good not to have to wait two weeks to see the first real MTF (like the Tour). Looks like better weather expected. I'll pick the GC group FTW with Roglic out-sprinting Vingegaard.

 

[Bonimenier]

So good not to have to wait two weeks to see the first real MTF (like the Tour). Looks like better weather expected. I'll pick the GC group FTW with Roglic out-sprinting Vingegaard.

What Tour have you been watching this year?

 

[Cookster15]

What Tour have you been watching this year?

Not this year. But certainly most years as I am sure you would agree.

 

[Gigs_98]

Can't wait for this stage. Really, really curious who will be up there tomorrow.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Honestly Arinsal is probably a near perfect climb for this stage of the race. That said it does look like a block headwind all day tomorrow

They may be heading north for most of the stage, but both Ordino and Arinsal trend west-southwest so no block headwind there as it's expected to blow from the north. Only the final kilometre will be into the headwind, before that it's actually mostly tailwind from the village of Arinsal (~4.5k from the summit) onwards.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Hopefully some UAE mickey mouse tactics keep us entertained. Landa to lose 5 minutes

 

[Potomac]

I might finally get to watch some racing live tomorrow.

 

[Andy schleck]

It‘s headwind time, boys, get hyped!

There's no headwind in the mountains with guys like vingegaard, remco or ayuso.

 

[movingtarget]

After the first two stages, expect the unexpected.

 

[Rob5091]

A GC sprint small group seems the likely outcome. The composition of the break will be interesting..

Edit - add - You know what we have not had yet at the Vuelta, which would really show that the race has begun? A good protest like in the WC in Scotland -
https://velo.outsideonline.com/road...-tack-attack-mars-second-grand-tour-in-spain/

"Local police confirmed that they detained four people Saturday who police say were planning to disrupt Monday’s third stage that starts in Súria north of Barcelona and ends in Andorra, the nearby Pyrénéan principality.
One Catalan separatist group already vowed to disrupt the Vuelta, and another group called “Alert Solidària” criticized the detentions, calling the race a “Vuelta colonista,” a colonial Vuelta, adding that the Spanish grand tour “reflects national and social oppression,” according to the Spanish wire service EFE."

 

[Scarponi]

A GC sprint small group seems the likely outcome. The composition of the break will be interesting..

Edit - add - You know what we have not had yet at the Vuelta, which would really show that the race has begun? A good protest like in the WC in Scotland -
https://velo.outsideonline.com/road...-tack-attack-mars-second-grand-tour-in-spain/

"Local police confirmed that they detained four people Saturday who police say were planning to disrupt Monday’s third stage that starts in Súria north of Barcelona and ends in Andorra, the nearby Pyrénéan principality.
One Catalan separatist group already vowed to disrupt the Vuelta, and another group called “Alert Solidària” criticized the detentions, calling the race a “Vuelta colonista,” a colonial Vuelta, adding that the Spanish grand tour “reflects national and social oppression,” according to the Spanish wire service EFE."

Someone needs to kiss Remco without consent

 

[Salvarani]

There's no headwind in the mountains with guys like vingegaard, remco or ayuso.

The last airbenders

 

[search]

After the first two stages, expect the unexpected.

so the winner won't come from a piss-poor breakaway?

 

[Volderke]

so the winner won't come from a piss-poor breakaway?

I value Kron's effort given the weather, because while the top guns would probably have gone faster, Kron went 7 seconds harder in the rain on Montjuic than Remco / Roglic did in Catalunya while dropping Soler (admitted, they did that climb 6 times that day). So not bad at all.

 

[search]

I value Kron's effort given the weather, because while the top guns would probably have gone faster, Kron went 7 seconds harder in the rain on Montjuic than Remco / Roglic did in Catalunya while dropping Soler (admitted, they did that climb 6 times that day). So not bad at all.

oh, I wasn't even referring to Kron. It's just that the first mountain stage in the Vuelta usually goes to a breakaway, and often not a particularly good one.

 

[SafeBet]

After Milesi and Piccolo, it's Lorenzo Germani's time to get the red jersey.

 

[topcat]

At the Vuelta does Rog have more skin in the game than Vingo?

 

[yaco]

I doubt that EF can control the break - There will be lots of contenders for this stage and a couple of GC riders will lose time.

 

[Berniece]

Hope Jumbo tries to do the same as they did in the Tour. Vingegaard launches on d'Ordino already, Roglic can just follow in the wheel and win the sprint if everything comes back together

 

[tobydawq]

After Milesi and Piccolo, it's Lorenzo Germani's time to get the red jersey.

Will it just be 21 different Italian riders?

 

[RedheadDane]

Will it just be 21 different Italian riders?

That's unlikely...

At the Vuelta does Rog have more skin in the game than Vingo?

After yesterday, it appears Vingegaard has a bit more skin in the game.

 

[tobydawq]

That's unlikely...



After yesterday, it appears Vingegaard has a bit more skin in the game.

Have you calculated both of their surfaces areas?

 

[RedheadDane]

Have you calculated both of their surfaces areas?

No. I just went by Roglic having a little less than 100% skin coverage.

 

[Andy262]

Just looking at the classifications on Procyclingstats.. What does the purple letter ‘F’ mean against a handful of riders, Roglič, Poole, Kelderman etc…?