Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2024, stage 18: Vitoria-Gasteiz - Maeztu, 179.3k

[Eddy Evenepoel]

I couldnt watch today, what happened with Landa?

 

[Valv.Piti]

I couldnt watch today, what happened with Landa?

Bad legs, lost a minute on a climb he should have no problem with. FDJ, Ineos, Movistar and EF all had domestiques up the road.

 

[Wvv]

Why did Miquel got relegated?

 

[Netserk]

Why did Miquel got relegated?

2.12.007-5.1
Déviation du couloir choisi en gênant ou en mettant en danger un autre coureur et sprint irrégulier.
Deviation from the chosen line that obstructs or endangers another rider or irregular sprint.
205- MIQUEL DELGADO Pau - EQUIPO KERN PHARMA - 10023573913
Amende de 500CHF - 8 Points au classement par points
Relégation à la dernière place du groupe auquel il appartenait
Fine of 500CHF - 8 Points at points classification
Relegation to last place in the group to which he belonged

 

[jmdirt]

Agreed. Roglic should not expend any extra energy. Partly because I'm not convinced he's in super condition. He just needs to be even with Mas and to a lesser extent Carapaz.

Strategically speaking that's true, but there will 10 pages of one liners if he does indeed use that strategy.

 

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2.12.007-5.1
Déviation du couloir choisi en gênant ou en mettant en danger un autre coureur et sprint irrégulier.
Deviation from the chosen line that obstructs or endangers another rider or irregular sprint.
205- MIQUEL DELGADO Pau - EQUIPO KERN PHARMA - 10023573913
Amende de 500CHF - 8 Points au classement par points
Relégation à la dernière place du groupe auquel il appartenait
Fine of 500CHF - 8 Points at points classification
Relegation to last place in the group to which he belonged

he did nothing at all, though?!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1831715941337465269

View: https://x.com/teledeporte/status/1831715941337465269

 

[Netserk]

he did nothing at all, though?!

Yeah, nothing in the last 200 m. But I guess he could be relegated for irregular sprinting before the corner.

 

[SHAD0W93]

I couldnt watch today, what happened with Landa?

Landa was set free from his legs.

 

[Sciatic]

I just don't see a way that Mas or Carapaz gain time on Roglic tomorrow, so even trying just ends up wasting energy, as the stage is easily controlled until the final climb. Attacking is more energetically demanding than defending so they're putting themselves at a disadvantage for Saturday. OK, if they decide they're just trying to dislodge O'Connor then they may ride hard both days.

Carapaz is still not on the podium so definitely needs time. Mas can’t let Carapaz get too much time. If both drop OConnor it’s beneficial to both of them.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

Panda was set free from his legs.

Its kind of beautiful that when Landa is free he is free to lose.

 

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Yeah, nothing in the last 200 m. But I guess he could be relegated for irregular sprinting before the corner.

mhh, maybe. Here's also the overhead shot of his sprint, but it only starts at the corner as well:

Watch vuelta18_finish | Streamable

Watch "vuelta18_finish" on Streamable.

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[KZD]

Kern Pharma is living a dream, must be even more special for Berrade to win in his home region.

Sad to see Landa dropped like this on a stage that started in his home region, either he is getting sick or he is feeling the Tour on his legs.

Great attitude from Carapaz, he is the sort of rider that makes cycling more enjoyable to watch and I believe that he will be on the final podium.

 

[Wyndbrook]

I'm beginning to think that Kern Pharma are leading the actual race, I guess these GC guys are going to try and find the front of the race eventually.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Pau divebombed Lazkano a bit on the corner but it's harsh

Poole now 4 podiums in the last 8 stages, will be disappointed with no wins but considering he spent 4 months off the bike after his crash in Tirreno it bodes well for the future that he has this kind of recovery with a very unomptimal base and preparation.

 

[Danskebjerge]

I don't know why we keep seeing these examples of riders being forced to drop back to "help" a semi GC guy on a mountaineous or hilly stage. I don't remember a single case of a rider having a bad day, being minutes behind the other GC contenders, and then reducing the gap significantly after forcing a teammate from the breakaway to drop back to pull. That strategy only makes a minor difference in terms of the GC while it ruins the chance of a stage win for the breakaway rider.

It may have to do with showing loyalty to the captain, but if that's the case it's loyalty in a bad way.

 

[staubsauger]

I don't know why we keep seeing these examples of riders being forced to drop back to "help" a semi GC guy on a mountaineous or hilly stage. I don't remember a single case of a rider having a bad day, being minutes behind the other GC contenders, and then reducing the gap significantly after forcing a teammate from the breakaway to drop back to pull. That strategy only makes a minor difference in terms of the GC while it ruins the chance of a stage win for the breakaway rider.

It may have to do with showing loyalty to the captain, but if that's the case it's loyalty in a bad way.

It won Aru the 2015 Vuelta a Espana!

 

[Invicituz]

What a sensational solo performance from Spaniard Urko Berrade, claiming his first Vuelta stage win in glorious fashion. Chapeau sir!

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I don't know why we keep seeing these examples of riders being forced to drop back to "help" a semi GC guy on a mountaineous or hilly stage. I don't remember a single case of a rider having a bad day, being minutes behind the other GC contenders, and then reducing the gap significantly after forcing a teammate from the breakaway to drop back to pull. That strategy only makes a minor difference in terms of the GC while it ruins the chance of a stage win for the breakaway rider.

It may have to do with showing loyalty to the captain, but if that's the case it's loyalty in a bad way.

Landa a semi GC guy? You'll see me in court.

 

[staubsauger]

The last victory for Kruijswijk Steven (Team Visma | Lease a Bike) was 10 years + 19 days ago (Arctic Race of Norway )

10 years no win for Kruijswijk.

That was a race win only. His only ever stage win was in Malbun at the 2011 Tour de Suisse!

 

[AnotherArmChair]

The problem for Landa is he followed the GC riders at the Tour and has little left in the tank for the 3 weeks GC battle here

After all Yates and Rodriquez are also not at their best with a GC/Dom type ride in their legs at the Tour

Mas and Carapaz only came good at the end of the Tour after not really staying with GC guys everyday.

Maybe Landa should have sat up alot of days at the Tour to be top at the Vuelta

Lets hope a break has his name and he can win a stage if not ill or jaded

Btw you are not a semi C rider cos you lose ...you are because you ride GC everyday

 

[Danskebjerge]

It won Aru the 2015 Vuelta a Espana

Aru was minutes away from the podium?

 

[Sciatic]

I don't know why we keep seeing these examples of riders being forced to drop back to "help" a semi GC guy on a mountaineous or hilly stage. I don't remember a single case of a rider having a bad day, being minutes behind the other GC contenders, and then reducing the gap significantly after forcing a teammate from the breakaway to drop back to pull. That strategy only makes a minor difference in terms of the GC while it ruins the chance of a stage win for the breakaway rider.

It may have to do with showing loyalty to the captain, but if that's the case it's loyalty in a bad way.

I think if a long-serving leader of a team is sick or injured teams will have riders drop back to help pull to the finish, even if a high placement is gone at that point. Don’t know if Landa was sick or not. But I don’t know that I’ve seen it from a teammate who is 10 min in front of the GC guy like this.

 

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[Danskebjerge]

I think if a long-serving leader of a team is sick or injured teams will have riders drop back to help pull to the finish, even if a high placement is gone at that point. Don’t know if Landa was sick or not. But I don’t know that I’ve seen it from a teammate who is 10 min in front of the GC guy like this.

It was definitely a misjudgment (if it wasn't based on some kind of symbolic principle).

 

[staubsauger]

If Landa was knowingly sick, then it made sense to pack the breakaway in an attempt to get something fruitful out of an otherwise desastrous day for Quick Step.

The way this played out however, with them calling back Cattaneo way to late simply looked chaotic & clueless!