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I don't think so, it'll probably just take a while to get the result adapted. Then we should normally get a new GC standing, just without a stage result - same as when Bernal won the Tour.
They'll have to sort through any GPS and video data at 3km to sort out the GC. Probably even ask teams for assistance so they can get an uncontroversial buy-in going forward. Unlike Bernal's result the pack didn't roll into town where everyone could be accounted for. The front guys ended up with a police escort in a back street and their results were easily checked at 3km.
 
Anyways how did Gall go from being dropped like a stone on Vivero to being 5th best on Pike? Is he now better on steep short climbs?
I was on my way back from work so I could only check PCS on my phone (I walk to work, no worries!) and it was a true tombola. Every other minute I refreshed, the front group seemed to be entirely different :laughing:
 
Monthaversary = Month's Mind in Ireland.
I do not think Pidcock will podium.
As you would imagine, I am very much aware of the Month's Mind. This is in fact the 15th "monthaversary", but it is a tradition that is important to my wife, and therefore to me.

But more importantly for this forum,thank you for being the first person to mention an actual cyclist in about 10 pages.
 
OK, I think I turn out to end up with such a post every 10 years or so. But so be it.

I have many interests besides cycling, and then other areas and topics that I have strong and emotional opinions about.

On a cycling forum, I only want to discuss cycling. Not as an escapism from what else is going on in the world, but as a warm interest, where I don't want to mix everything up.

This is far from the first time I have witnessed otherwise regular crew members suddenly abandon ship and walking the plank, leaving a cycling forum based solely on non-cycling things. Some forever.

When Bill's Sportspage convertet/partly broke out and became CN and shortly after first forum, a heated debate, again an incident shortly after the turn of the millennium and again shortly after the forum migration in 2009 and most recently a couple of years ago about another ongoing non-cycling hot spot, where an otherwise good debater suddenly left us in an emotional outburst in response to another thread that had to do with the hot spot but nothing to do with cycling.

Otherwise good debaters who contributed really good insights, different POVs, who have suddenly painted themselves into a corner and eithee forcing people to have an opinion on non-cycling things on a cycling forum or simply just emotional outburts in responses to a non-cycling topic.

That's my main complaint when you stray from the path. It rarely brings any value with it.

I remember when I was a young student in 1990, I started with debate forums on UseNet. Starting with strictly defined professional technical forums within programming languages, IT hardware, etc. vs. Forums about culture and language and society.

The latter UseNet forums were closed down or ended up being empty. Destroyed and bombed by users who forced other users to leave the topic, hunting around in circles, which otherwise only a narcissist would do for his own gain.
While the first mentioned technical UseNet forums were always 100% on point and 0% sidestepping.

I want this forum to respect that tone.

That it is recommended to only discuss cycling here, or the dedicated harmless non-cycling sub-forums created with the intention of .

Just because you only want to discuss cycling on a cycling forum does not mean that you do not have clear views on things and life outside of cycling.

Just my 2 cents and I will not respond on this matter the next 10 years again.
 
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OK, I think I turn out to end up with such a post every 10 years or so. But so be it.

I have many interests besides cycling, and then other areas and topics that I have strong and emotional opinions about.

On a cycling forum, I only want to discuss cycling. Not as an escapism from what else is going on in the world, but as a warm interest, where I don't want to mix everything up.

This is far from the first time I have witnessed otherwise regular crew members suddenly abandon ship and walking the plank, leaving a cycling forum based solely on non-cycling things. Some forever.

When Bill's Sportspage convertet/partly broke out and became CN and shortly after first forum, a heated debate, again an incident shortly after the turn of the millennium and again shortly after the forum migration in 2009 and most recently a couple of years ago about another ongoing non-cycling hot spot, where an otherwise good debater suddenly left us in an emotional outburst in response to another thread that had to do with the hot spot but nothing to do with cycling.

Otherwise good debaters who contributed really good insights, different POVs, who have suddenly painted themselves into a corner and eithee forcing people to have an opinion on non-cycling things on a cycling forum or simply just emotional outburts in responses to a non-cycling topic.

That's my main complaint when you stray from the path. It rarely brings any value with it.

I remember when I was a young student in 1990, I started with debate forums on UseNet. Starting with strictly defined professional technical forums within programming languages, IT hardware, etc. vs. Forums about culture and language and society.

The latter UseNet forums were closed down or ended up being empty. Destroyed and bombed by users who forced other users to leave the topic, hunting around in circles, which otherwise only a narcissist would do for his own gain.
While the first mentioned technical UseNet forums were always 100% on point and 0% sidestepping.

I want this forum to respect that tone.

That it is recommended to only discuss cycling here, or the dedicated harmless non-cycling sub-forums created with the intention of .

Just because you only want to discuss cycling on a cycling forum does not mean that you do not have clear views on things and life outside of cycling.

Just my 2 cents and I will not respond on this matter the next 10 years again.
That used to be easier, when there was a political thread in the non-cycling section of this forum. CN decided that thread was objectionable and deleted it, and created a policy of no politics anywhere on the forum. I understand their reasoning, and while I don't agree it was the correct action, it ain't my forum.
 
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You went beyond that, by posting about why nobody was concentrating on the action of the stage. It was completely understandalbe why that happened.
It was intended to be a suggestion that we move back onto our raison d'etre as a cycling forum, other matters having been discussed at length and effectively to the limit of what is possible within the rules here. Sorry if I did not make that clear.
 
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That used to be easier, when there was a political thread in the non-cycling section of this forum. CN decided that thread was objectionable and deleted it, and created a policy of no politics anywhere on the forum. I understand their reasoning, and while I don't agree it was the correct action, it ain't my forum.

It was clear as a business decision (especially at an apex of neoliberal pragmatics), but cycling has never been apolitical so that remains a business/value inflection.

Admirable moderation though.